Duvan Zapata

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Clenbuterol, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. villus

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    Jun 5, 2008
    I'm really happy Queiroz is on board with having the 3 pressing attackers that are multi skilled, its something we've had but have lacked using under Pekerman and I've wanted us to employ it for years. It would help us use more attacking 8's if needed but I agree its unlikely, but I do think its doable in games we look to dominate or if we need a goal late etc. Man City use a formation with double 8's quite often and they get away with it because they invert their fullbacks rather then push them wide, it covers for the CM's and breaks up counters.
     
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  2. HomietheClown

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    #1177 HomietheClown, Sep 13, 2019
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    The funny thing about this though is that the formation with three pressing attackers is getting a lot of heat from some Colombian analysts because it reminds them too much of what Bolillo did in 2011. I heard El Patrón Bermúdez try to make that comparison the other day.
     
  3. villus

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    Jun 5, 2008
    Those analysts are morons. The blueprint of our game has never looked better. Sure Under Pekerman 2012-2014 we looked fantastic and attacked a ton at home, we had peak Falcao and James healthy but so far in a short period of time Queiroz has given us a formation and way of playing that isn't totally dependent on individual talents but a system that we have multiple players who can fit into and that can trouble any team home or away. The style we've been playing is to defend and attack take the game defensively to teams high up the field, we never did that under Pekerman and doing it now with especially with the guys we have will give any team problems.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

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    #1179 HomietheClown, Sep 13, 2019
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    Yup.
    Saying things like Queiroz's tactics look a lot like Bolillo's is kind of moronic.
    Even though the three striker systems may look a little similar...
    ... the way they are applied both offensively and defensively is different.

    I just thought it was funny.
     
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  5. ryu79

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    Man. Bolillo couldn't pronounce Manchester United, literally. Quieroz used to coach them...
     
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  6. Bomb8

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  7. HomietheClown

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    That was a missile from outside the box.
     
  8. villus

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    Jun 5, 2008
    Muriel and Duvan scoring important goals :)
     
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  9. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
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    Let's get roger in atalanta as well lol
     
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  10. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    Colombia
    Funny thing is that lucho hvent been starter in these 3 matches........ilici should be the leftover
     
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  11. HomietheClown

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    Illicic can be such a good player at times but can be horrible at other times. Especially his decision making in the final third.
    I think it will be a matter of time until Muriel gets his spot but his seniority and trust seem to be winning out at the moment.
    Maybe Muriel can start the Champions League games in some sort of rotation.
     
  12. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Ilicic isn't a slouch, he was fantastic for long stretches last year, he an Muriel are very different players. If you need more width and defensive work you go Muriel if you want more central and pure attack you go Ilicic. I think they'll rotate Muriel, Ilicic, Duvan and Papu with all the games they have and based on what they did last year, its a great mix with each player giving you something different. Roger to Atalanta in January!
     
  13. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    as i said their defense is terrible......
     
  14. HomietheClown

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    Those Croatians looked very good too. Good pressing and passing and centers.
    They did not forgive those defensive mistakes.
     
  15. villus

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    Jun 5, 2008
    That Croatian team has some talent, but holy shit they completely bum rushed Atalanta. Atalanta are going to give up goals because they always go for it and attack, there's a price to pay for that. Overall Zapata didn't get a ton of service, basically had a goal stolen from him with a really good save from the goalie when he turned his defender really well and got off a really good shot that the goalie somehow got a hand too going the other way. He scuffed another decent chance late where he got 1v1 with the goalie and tried to curl it inside the corner with the outside of the foot but it didn't come off and it was well wide. Tough game for them to open their Champions league campaign.
     
  16. HomietheClown

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    For those of us in the USA the Atalanta-Fiorentina match is going to be on ESPN Deportes on Sunday.
     
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  17. Bomb8

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    Jun 19, 2017
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    Duvan and Muriel both starting.
     
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  18. HomietheClown

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    Fantastic.
    Had to shake things up after the anemic performance in Croatia.
    Hope they play well and it is the start of something really special.
    .
     
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  19. HomietheClown

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    Duvan was given a gift by a defender and he missed it wide.
     
  20. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    Duvan is in bench agaisnt roma.......his two last matchges werent good

    muriel wasnt called up dont know the reason
     
  21. GavoCol

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    May 12, 2007
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    amigdalitis
     
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  22. Furnaccio

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    Feb 19, 2008
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    Boom! Toro Zapata with a 71st min goal!!

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  23. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    I guess it was a good strategy to not start him.

    Playing 3 games in a week can take a toll on anyone.
     
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  24. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
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    at the end was a victory of 2 0 so a good strategy....
     
  25. Froboy69

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    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
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    FC Internazionale Milano
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    Good for him. He's proving more and more that we're in good hands following Falcao's retirement...which actually makes me sad to some extent but I think that we're all just happy knowing that we have a striking talent like him that is actually not becoming a disappointment.
     
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