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Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by DRB300, Sep 2, 2012.
St. Juste with the match winner for Mainz, 2-1 over Hertha.
Ray Hudson comparing Frenkie to Cruijff just now on BEIN.
He has a goal and an assist so far in 1st half
Malen with 5 goals today!!
Whats the record for most goals in one ED match?? Anyone know??
9 with feyenoord, if you mean by one player
Henk Schouten in 1961 – Foto: CC / Henk Lindeboom / Anefo
Feyenoorder Henk Schouten: 9 doelpunten in 1 wedstrijd
Head Coach of Dutch Football Team Says Mohammed Ihattaren Can’t Play for Morocco
Amid heightened debates about which side the young prodigy will pick, Koeman, the Dutch national head coach, seems confident that Ihattaran won't be playing for Morocco come September.
Ihattaren in action for Dutch club PSV Eindhoven
Tamba François Koundouno
Aug 27, 2019
Rabat – Ronald Koeman, the head coach of the Oranje, the Dutch national football team, has just made plain his desire to do everything in his power to thwart Morocco’s quest to convince Mohammed Ihattaren to play for the Atlas Lions.
Ihattaran, the 17-year-old PSV Eindhoven attacking midfielder whose stellar performances for club have sparked a strong interest from Morocco, his country of origin, and the Netherlands, his birth country, is currently at the center of a tense-looking feud between the two national teams.
Both countries have recently called up the teenage player for upcoming matches.
Morocco’s newly appointed head coach, Vahid Halilhodzic, has picked the PSV Eindhoven player for his list of pre-selected players for the Atlas Lions’ upcoming friendly games in September.
For its part, the Netherlands called up the youngster for a spot in its youth squad for the Euro U21 qualifier game against Cyprus on September 10.
Amid heightened debates about which side the young prodigy will pick, Koeman is seems confident that the youngster won’t be picking Morocco over the Netherlands. “Ihattaran cannot play for Morocco in September,” he said in an interview.
More than a declaration of intent, the Dutch coach’s firm comments, which he made in a recent interview with Dutch outlet Studio Voetbal, came with the suggestion, as MWN previously reported, that the Dutch are in no mood to let go off Ihattaren.
Koeman said just as much in the interview, promising that the paperwork will be made tough for Ihattaren should he decide to pick Morocco over the Netherlands.
“In case Ihattaren chooses to play for Morocco, he will have to follow some procedures, including filling in a formal request declaring his intention to join Morocco.”
The process Koeman describes has nothing to do with the FIFA regulations dictating a player of dual citizenship’s decision to pick between the two countries he is eligible to represent.
The process of filling in a formal request is often the last resolve for a player at club level when his ambitions or well being do not dovetail with that of the club he happens to find himself at.
This was the case with Brazil’s Philip Coutinho when he decided to leave Liverpool for Barcelona. It is also currently the case for Neymar, who has formally requested to leave France’s PSG for another European giant.
But when it comes to choosing the country a player wishes to represent, the player has no obligation to notify the country he is ditching. As long as he has not played for a given country in an official FIFA game, a player is free to choose any national team he wishes to join.
In his interview, Koeman, fully aware of the FIFA regulations, seemed to be exerting pressure on Ihattaren to make his final choice “sooner rather than later.” That comment is a direct, deliberate challenge to Ihattaren’s current position.
When asked about Morocco’s interest in him in an interview last week, the teenage player suggested he needed time to think before making his decision. “I am much honored to have been preselected [by the Moroccan coach]. It is a beautiful feeling. But I will not make my decision now,” he said.
Between a young and promising Dutch squad setting out to emulate, even revive the country’s past, glorious days and the reportedly well-known tendency among Moroccan parents in the Diaspora to convince their children to choose the fatherland, Ihattaren’s will be a tough choice to make.
Meanwhile, for all his strong-willed declarations about making it hard for Ihattaren to choose the Lions over Oranje, Koeman seems to understand that, at the end, and regardless of his pressure, the final call will fully be the player’s—and his parents’.
“In any case, the decision is entirely up to him and his parents. But he will have to make up his mind sooner rather than later,” said the Dutch coach.
Bit of a stupid article, just translates the quotes we already heard but added a weird spin to it. Koeman doesn't think he can block Ihattaren or make it difficult for him, he's just mentioning that the change cannot occur on a whim.
Anyway, crazy weekend!
Not much talk here about De Jong who apparently starred in the Barca game. Malen showing up with 5 goals, wow! And then Naci Unuvar at 16 ripping apart the U-19s again, Stengs + Boadu linking but for AZ again... the future is bright! This Oranje team is gonna be incredible.... if Ihattaren and Unuvar make the obvious (correct) choice, the potential is endless.
Too bad Malen left Ajax all those years ago. Imagine Malen in this Ajax team! With that being said i'm glad to see PSV have a strong team and I hope they go far in Europe. They have some amazing potential coming through this year (just like AZ) and the best part is that the top players are all Dutch.
I think their attack is the strongest in the Eredivisie, given what they can swap off the bench too. However at the moment the best couple is Stengs with Boadu.
That ball handling of Stengs is such a delight to watch.
Did not know you got Ray Hudson commentary over there. He's really funny!!! He was the manager of DC United some years ago.
I've got IPTV remember?? I get something like 20,000 channels from all over the world.
I really hate is voice though, he sounds like he smokes about five packs of cigarettes a day
I'm surprised no big clubs have made a move for Aké yet. I suspect they will if Bournemouth get relegated
They read my posts for info
What does that mean??
Are you saying he's not good enough??
3-1 Bournemouth now
Kluivert just scored for Roma and is generally playing a good match
I think Ake needs to show up on big games... against the world-class strikers, the Salah’s, Aguero’s, Kane’s of the world - that’s the only thing that will raise his stock and increase the chance of getting “promoted” to upper table clubs. Right now he is good enough against mid table opponents, but every time I watch him vs. top-5 or 6 clubs (which are games usually broadcasted where I am at), he is less than inspiring.
Haps and Karsdorp on the move to the Orange back positions, if Haps stays healthy. With each match Koeman sees his former Feyenoord back Rick regaining his form that catapulted him into the Orange team.
He has a 40 million buy out clause and only chelsea can buy him in cut off deal.
By cut off deal you mean buy him for less money, right??
I have not seen any 'reliable' source that has named a buy back value for Chelsea. EPL contracts unlike those in Spain do not routinely have a release value for the player. £40M is the value I have seen that Chelsea can buy him for.
Chelsea can't buy him at all due to the transfer ban.
Correct but they have appealed to the CAS to allow them to register players in the January transfer window. No date has been set for this. It's actually been a good thing for them as they have been forced to play Mason Mount and Tammy Abraham who are both having great starts to the season.
Analysis of Dest and his play against Lille:
De kracht én zwaktes van Dest en wat de rechtsback toevoegt aan het spel van Ajax
The article gives an excellent analysis of his play and offers a thorough insight on him being ready for the Orange job or not.
My take is he's still a long way off the necesary level to be considered.
Owen Wijndal, my favourite for a place in the Koeman selection for the back position, has been the first to be awarded the U21 Player of the Month award.
AZ-linksback Owen Wijndal (19) is door de Eredivisie uitgeroepen tot Eredivisie Speler van de Maand U21. De jeugdexponent van AZ was statistisch gezien de best presterende voetballer onder 21 in augustus.
De 19-jarige linksback heeft een basisplaats bemachtigd in het elftal van trainer Arne Slot en betaalde het vertrouwen direct uit. Wijndal won 18 van de 25 persoonlijke duels en voerde 4 intercepties uit. Daarnaast hield Wijndal met AZ in 3 van de 4 wedstrijden de nul.
De jeugdexponent wist ook in aanvallend spel zijn stempel te drukken. Naast 6 geslaagde dribbels gaf Wijndal 19 voorzetten uit open spel. Daarnaast heeft Wijndal, van alle spelers die geen minuut misten, de hoogste passnauwkeurigheid op de helft van de tegenstander (91%).
Wijndal wist in augustus onder meer de 19-jarige Sven Botman (sc Heerenveen) en 20-jarige Vangelis Pavlidis (Willem II) achter zich te houden.
St Juste with a good performance this weekend: