Dutch clubs European silverware run 2018-2019

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by feyenoordsoccerfan, Jul 25, 2018.

  1. So the new Euro season kicks off with unfortunately only qualifying matches, as direct entrance is out of the window.

    woensdag 25/07

    [​IMG]Ajax - Sturm Graz [​IMG]
    20:30 cest

    donderdag 26/07
    [​IMG]Kairat Almaty - AZ [​IMG]
    17:00 cest

    [​IMG]FC Viitorul Constanta - Vitesse [​IMG]
    17:00 cest
     
  2. Wanneer komen Nederlandse clubs Europees in actie? Gemaakt met LocalFocus

    ===========Toernooi=========== Voorronde====== Datum
    Ajax======= Champions League=== Tweede========= 25 juli
    AZ ======== Europa League======= Tweede=========26 juli
    Vitesse ==== Europa League======= Tweede=========26 juli
    Feyenoord== Europa League======= Derde ========== 9 augustus
    PSV======= Champions League Play-offs =========== 21 of 22 augustus
     
  3. https://www.ad.nl/champions-league-...-voor-coefficientenlijst-belangrijk~afa3a781/

    The Ajax result goes beyond Ajax stepping into the next round. Austria 11th/25050 points and the Netherlands 12th/23833 points are next to each other , and beating Austria in this direct confrontation means we're closer to being in a direct qualifying CL spot again next season!
    So, if Ajax is serious they better start working on their direct entrance in the season 2019-2020 (But of course we Feyenoord are going to profit from it:)).
     
  4. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    It's for the CL group stage in season 2020/21, like the article says.
    Ajax, in case they advance, will play Standard. It will be a good test for them seeing Standard have struggled in recent years. Let's hope for less incidents this time round.
     
  5. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Just noticed that Ajax's coefficient has declined so much that when they advance, not if they advance seeing Sturm Graz were very weak, they'll still be unseeded in the play-off round (and if Standard eliminates Ajax they wouldn't even be able to profit from Ajax's coefficient). Also, the good news is that when Ajax eliminate Sturm Graz they'll have the guarantee of at least the EL group stage.

    Seeded teams in the League path play-off round:

    1. Benfica (or Fenerbahçe)

    2a. Basel/PAOK (or Spartak Moscow)
    2b. Dynamo Kyiv (or Slavia Prague)
    => either 2a (if Basel advances) or 2b (if PAOK eliminates Basel)

    In the Champions path PSV will be seeded in the play-off round and the possible opponents shouldn't present too much of a problem. PSV were already guaranteed of at least the EL group stage (in case of a loss).
     
  6. At least we have the Helmond Cup at the moment:cool:
    Poster in another thread pointed me to it!

    Thanks for making me aware of it
    .

    http://www.helmondcup.com/
     
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  7. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wow the Helmond Cup!!! It's been a long time coming since it left The Netherlands back in 2009!!! Let's hope Ajax can keep it!!!
     
  8. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    AZ loses 0-2 to Almaty (Kazakhstan)
    Vitesse draw 2-2 with Viitorul Constanta (Romania) but at least have two away goals
     
  9. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Viitorul the stronger side, Vitesse were lucky, Matavz's goal was :ROFLMAO:
    For both Vitesse and AZ, they need to learn how to defend, the way they conceded was really bad.
     
  10. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Viitorul was founded and managed by the great Gheorge Hagi. They are reputed to have the best youth academy in Romania and promote players to first team football just like Dutch clubs do.
     
  11. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Netherlands is slowly dying as a country
     
  12. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    A mirror for the state of the nation in general. Massive brain drain here.
     
  13. If they can keep it untill june next year your lot will become unbearable;)
     
  14. Rinus127

    Rinus127 Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    I knew we were bad but I did not imagine that we had fallen so low. Unbelievable. Lose against a team from Kazakhstan. What a shame.
     
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  15. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    One hopes that this resulted from the travel to Almaty for the match and that AZ will recover to win in Alkmaar.
     
  16. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    The country is a museum
     
  17. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    ...but an attractive museum.
     
  18. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    It was fun while we had gas and oil
     
  19. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Royal Dutch Shell has some new fields they are exploring so it's only a matter of time until the gushers come in.
     
  20. Dutch Treat

    Dutch Treat Member

    May 6, 2005
    Amsterdam|Alphen a/d Rijn
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Silverware chat and we discuss Shell. Nasty. Nothing royal about it.
     
  21. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    So 1. Benfica (or Fenerbahçe) and 2b. Dynamo Kyiv (or Slavia Prague) will be the seeded teams in the play-offs. Also, Russian and Ukrainian teams won't be drawn against each other. Possbly Ajax or Standard won't have to face Benfica (or Fenerbahçe). If that's indeed the case:

    - Benfica (or Fenerbahçe) - Spartak Moscow (or PAOK)
    - Dynamo Kyiv (or Slavia Prague) - Ajax (or Standard)

    Standard have lost the Belgian Super Cup against Brugge but played a thrilling game v. Gent. MPH is a very good manager but it's early doors as he only recently took charge of Standard. For years Standard have struggled and they've ways to go before getting back to their best. Also, at this stage it's better to play the second game at home but that advantage was given to Ajax. To make it a bit more fair Ajax could at least sell Ziyech before facing Standard (even then the market value of Ajax's squad would be over 3x Standard's). It's a very tough test for Standard and anything but a win for Ajax in this tie is a big surprise.
     
  22. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wins by Ajax and Vitesse offset the loss by AZ in Euro competition this week. Netherlands move above Austria in coefficient points as a result. Long runs by the clubs still in Europe are needed to move up further.

    Vitesse have a tough draw in the next EL round with Basel while Feyenoord play Slovak club Trencin. PSV start their CL qualification next week. Good luck to all the Dutch teams!!!!!
     
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  23. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/crank2019.html

    In the ranking Holland are still behind though and Austria will be counting on Salzburg (and Rapid) to rambo Europe.
    Denmark is also a big competitor for a top 11 spot (and a direct CLGS spot if the CL holders qualify for the CLGS through the league). No Danish club has been knocked out so far, with 4 clubs their multiplier is better and they got lucky with a very soft draw for the next round. It's very likely that Denmark are about to overtake Holland.

    After AZ's exit you'd expect Vitesse to get knocked out next. Basel are in transition and are a shambles right now so there's a chance. The Swiss are headed for a nightmare in Europe, the chasing pack of Switzerland, Czech Rep., Greece and Croatia gets thinned a bit. If Vitesse are knocked out then Feyenoord more than ever need to avoid a tough draw on Monday. In case they get Leipzig, for example, or any other of the better teams then Holland will probably have only two teams in Europe. Maybe both PSV and Ajax reach the CLGS and then you get a bonus but OTOH it's much easier to grab points in the EL.
     
  24. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
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