Dreaming of Chicago NASL.

Discussion in 'NASL Expansion' started by ceezmad, Aug 17, 2014.

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Pick a make believe Chicago NASL name

  1. Sting

    63 vote(s)
    70.0%
  2. Sparta

    5 vote(s)
    5.6%
  3. Not the Fire FC

    10 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. Other (write name below)

    12 vote(s)
    13.3%
  1. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    I would be cautious about another team in Portland, but that 15k waiting list is an intriguing prospect. I would still rather see a team in Las Vegas, San Diego, and maybe even Oakland first, at least when it comes to the West Coast.
     
  2. Oakland_Soccer

    Sep 27, 2015
    Oaktown, Cali
    Club:
    San Francisco Seals
    ya, it would be really interesting though - because again, there is still a counter culture here in Portland that I think would latch on to another "option".

    Hence why this is related to Chicago.
     
  3. revsfan444

    revsfan444 Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Not looking likely for 2017 at this rate.
     
  4. Peter Wilt

    Peter Wilt Member

    Jun 11, 1999
    Whitefish Bay, WI
    Yeah....not for Spring season....and i'd prefer not going with a Fall launch if possible, which means Spring, 2018 is more likely. Lack of a venue agreement is causing the delay.
     
  5. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Peter, far be it from me to tell you how to do your job, but it strikes me that there are quite a number of people who have been mobilized in support of this team that could put a good deal of public pressure on whatever entity was making the decision if only we knew who it was.
     
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  6. jatrain

    jatrain Member

    Jun 29, 2013
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    There's only one thing that buys political pressure in Chicago and it's not the, what, 500-1000 people (max) in Chicago that have the NASL on their radar.
     
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  7. Sam U El

    Sam U El Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 31, 2013
    Seoul Korea
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. Peter Wilt

    Peter Wilt Member

    Jun 11, 1999
    Whitefish Bay, WI
    Agreed. And thank you. That time will come. Now is not that time though.
     
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  9. Oakland_Soccer

    Sep 27, 2015
    Oaktown, Cali
    Club:
    San Francisco Seals
    one thing I appreciate about the NASL is that you get the brand name cookies, not the store brand shoppers value (USL). No need to rush this, keep building excitement through FO news and supporters related events.

    However, if launch is 2018, I would expect that resources and knowledge will be built up along the way a la - an epic launch. It's gotta be big and has to be Chicago vs. Indy on opening day.
     
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  10. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
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  11. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bummer. :( But it's better to get it right at launch.
     
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  13. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shocked, really surprised by this.
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously?

    These things are hard to do.

    How is this shocking?
     
  15. 4four4

    4four4 Member+

    Nov 13, 2013
    Land of 10,000 Lakes
    Why don't they just play in Bridgeview? lol ;)
     
  16. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why do I have a feeling this may end up happening?
     
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  17. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't know. The Fire runs the place now, right?

    Look, they can't draw people to Bridgeview to watch actual international-level players now. You're going to get people to go there to watch the NASL?

    A ground share is out (not just because it's the NASL, but the NWSL team takes up some dates as well).

    The Fire would have to leave, which is not going to be any easier, given they would have to find a place to play (the difficulty of which is one reason they are where they are).

    Whoever runs the facility (be it the Fire or the village or Spectacor or whomever) could hardly make the numbers work with even a successful NASL club.

    There is no ready-made solution, else they would have found it by now.
     
  18. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It won't be Bridgeview. I don't think the village wants to do any more deals with Wilt and neither would the Fire.
     
  19. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Humorous that the king of snark doesn't see the sarcasm. My apologies. Good luck to Pete but I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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  20. Oakland_Soccer

    Sep 27, 2015
    Oaktown, Cali
    Club:
    San Francisco Seals
    One year is not going to matter. GET IT RIGHT, don't rush. Do we see USL coming into Chicago? No. As far as I can see, the Fire will be a hot mess for at least a few more years.

    Once a suitable venue has been selected, make 2017 a marketing year, similar to what SF Deltas are doing right now in 2016. They are going balls to the wall on community outreach and ticket sales while creating an exciting timeline up to the 2017 kick-off.

    Time is valuable, but it must be utilized correctly. If 2018 is the launch date, instead of 2017 - I expected the club to be bigger and better organized - if not, 2017 would have been an absolute waste.
     
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  21. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The EoS article brings up another point, only San Fran is entering so far in 2017, and NASL is losing Minnesota. 12 is pretty far off 20 if that is their goal. I'll add that Rayo OKC is in a bad place right now to continue next year.
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Division II in name only, y'all!
     
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  23. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
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  24. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Bridgeview would jump for joy to fill more dates for their albatross of a stadium, no matter who was behind it. In fact, they'd probably even cut the NASL team a deal like they did with the Red Stars. However, there's no way that it makes sense from the Chicago NASL perspective. The only way a second division team can compete in the market is by going after a different demographic and Bridgeview does not do that.
     
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  25. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I would imagine the city of Chicago is not bending over backwards to strike a deal for Soldier Field. So they are back to where the Fire was in 2004: needing a place to play and finding existing ones challenging and building a new one even more so.

    There is no natural existing place (outside of SF) that ticks all the boxes. Or even most of them. I don't think. They have all been discussed years ago and found lacking. Now, would the lesser demands of a D2 team reduce the barriers the Fire faced? Maybe. But I still don't know that one of the (many) baseball stadiums or Dyche or Lane Tech or Benedetti-Wehrli works, either. Maybe Lisle, but parking and no beer (at last report, I left Lisle in 2007) could be deal breakers.
     

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