Dream group/pot thread

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by persianfootball, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly
     
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  2. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Poland is located in central Europe though.

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    I view Slovenia, Poland and Italy as EU members, so all in the same bag.
    In your view where does Germany fit in? Did reunification take place or did East Germany miss the turn?
     
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  3. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    That would have been a pretty interesting group.
     
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  4. Flipmode2000

    Flipmode2000 Member

    Feb 28, 2012
    USA -Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    i'll take it lol
     
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  5. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's my full mock draw:

    A
    Russia
    Colombia
    Iceland
    Morocco

    B
    Brazil
    Switzerland
    Tunisia
    South Korea

    C
    Germany
    Croatia
    Costa Rica
    Nigeria

    D
    Portugal
    Spain
    Egypt
    Australia

    E
    Poland
    England
    Iran
    Panama

    F
    Belgium
    Peru
    Senegal
    Saudi Arabia

    G
    France
    Uruguay
    Denmark
    Japan

    H
    Argentina
    Mexico
    Sweden
    Serbia

    No real groups of death.. but I'd say groups H and C would be the toughest... poor Australia, too...
     
  6. Nico777

    Nico777 Member+

    Olympique de marseille
    Croatia
    Oct 19, 2017
    #81 Nico777, Nov 30, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2017
    They are wrong.
    Ex yugoslavia is shared and mixed between different cultures, south, east, and middle east, the influences of roman empire ottoman empire austrian hungarian empire byzance even the moves of Persia. You got both catholics muslims and orthodoxs in this part of europe.bosnians muslims croatian catholics serbians orthodox
    17 % of croatian population is from italian decents.

    You won't find 17 % of people with italian decents and mediterraneans in ukraine or poland.
    Yugoslavia was not part of sovietic union either.
    And again Greece is a balkanic country too.

    But my point was especially about Greece. You can't say on one hand that eastern countries did not perform well and that greece did. Greece and Croatia come from the same part of europe. They are both balkanic.
    So either Greece is an eastern country too either Croatia is not.
     
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  7. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    That's a better draw than we got last time
     
  8. laurasoccerfreak

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Nov 24, 2017
    People are commonly wrong on generalizations.
    But this doesn't help us any further. When it's about communication one simply has to understand what is meant - and often scientifical purity is not very useful on communication.

    Like when in statistics in the U.S. they classify their population with the terms "whites, blacks, asians and latinos".
    Even if we know that "latino" comes from Latium, and this is the region of Rome (so ... "whites"), we know exactely what they mean. And it's useless to discuss.
    We understand what they mean and this is all.
     
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  9. Nico777

    Nico777 Member+

    Olympique de marseille
    Croatia
    Oct 19, 2017
    Understanding what they mean is not a reason not to tell them they are wrong.
    Then they just have to give a look at the card posted above to see themselves how wrong they are.
    As long as they continue to say these things i will continue to tell them how wrong they are. I won't shut.

    By the way slovenia and northern italia have much more in common than slovenia and any part from poland will ever do.

    If they want to generalize then saying europe should be enough, if they want to be more specific and spare europeans nations in different parts they should know what they are talking about when they do and be at least logical.

    Croatia Bosnia Greece from 2014 are both balkanic countries when Russia is not.
     
  10. Ric_Braz

    Ric_Braz Member+

    May 13, 2009
    Wiltshire, UK.
    Club:
    AFC Wimbledon
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I did say Greece did well in 2014 and the eastern European teams (Russia, Romainia, Ukraine, Czech Republic) did badly in 2016. two different tournaments.
     
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  11. Nico777

    Nico777 Member+

    Olympique de marseille
    Croatia
    Oct 19, 2017
    Czech republic that are in middle..why should they be linked more to russian and romanian failures than to Germany semi final?
    Or Poland 1/4 finals. Slovakia and Hungaria reached round 16 as well.
    Every parts of europe had different kinds of results in the past years.
     
  12. Smoga

    Smoga Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Brooklyn, NYC
    People in Poland really hate to be called "Eastern Europeans", and I think that the same goes for the Czechs, Hungarians and to lesser extent Slovaks. It was an artificially invented political classification (and a complete geographic misnomer - Poland lies in the very center of Europe geographically) in order to divide Europe into two camps after WWII. Nowadays it is sill used to refer to the above countries by some, primarily Russians with grand imperial delusions and those unsympathetic to those countries as the term is often associated with backwardness when compared to "Western Europe".
     
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  13. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's kind of what I mean though.. two brutal draws in a row for Australia should they get that....
     

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