Dos A Cero shirt. My concept, since everybody is doing it....

Discussion in 'USA Men: Fans & Travel' started by ewheatley, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. TheScarfMachine

    May 1, 2007
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me guess, you're a complete douche bag.
     
  2. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that, that image MAY have infringed, which is why I did not produce that image.



    As far the design the I created for the shirts has passed the four factors checklist.

    My work is transformative.
    In short, transformative use is a use that creates something new, rather than simply creating something intended to substitute for the original.

    My work does not infringe upon the market value of the photo.
    The fourth and final factor deals with the potential harm the use does to the market for the original work. The fourth factor, much like the first, is generally given more weight in court decisions.




    Courts will occasionally not uphold a copyright on modified public domain material if the changes are deemed to be "de minimis". Similarly, courts have dismissed copyright infringement cases on the grounds that the alleged infringer's use of the copyrighted work (such as sampling) was so insignificant as to be "de minimis".



    Now, Are ready to get off of your high horse?
     
  3. dabes2

    dabes2 Member

    Jun 1, 2003
    Chicago
    Suit yourself.

    Look, I don't know anything about image rights and as a result don't know who is in the legally right position. And I don't know you, or ewheatley, or Andy Mead.

    But for me, the coolest part of this shirt is the shadow of Donovan derived from Andy's photo. I like the shirt a lot. It's very nicely done. But the Donovan image is what makes it special because it captures the thrill of the victory. It was a childish gesture by Donovan, just like the shirt is a childish gesture for any fan who puts it on. It's really perfect.

    Also, it hardly seems like Andy was looking for anything of substance from a guy who printed up 30-40 shirts. To someone who just reads what is in this thread, it certainly seems like ewheatley is antagonizing Andy Mead unnecessarily.

    But perhaps there is more to this story than appears in the thread.
     
  4. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Or perhaps AndyMead is antagonizing me. He did not take the photo.

    I understand Andy's argument, but I do not think it is justified in this situation. Had I printed the other design, which was much more detailed, and clearly referenced the photo and clearly showed that it was LD, then perhaps I would agree with his argument, but I did not. I do not think that I violated any photgraphers rights with this photo.

    And, I do not download illegal software or music.
    In fact, I used my $2,000 software package to earn $180 net profit on these shirts.
     
  5. Lazzer

    Lazzer Member

    Sep 26, 2005
  6. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which one of you guys wore the freakin' shirt to Azteca???
    F^(%!N' AWESOME!!!!!!

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Curva Nord

    Curva Nord Member

    Mar 29, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the exact same thing when I saw that picture.

    Fantastic!!
     
  8. Lolonearbyyolo

    Apr 17, 2006
    Section 138
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wore it the day after, but there were a couple in the stands there.
     
  9. Jboc15

    Jboc15 New Member

    Jun 7, 2009
    Detroit
    Also made a Mexican paper the next day.
     
  10. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Get out! Seriously?? :D

    I'm so proud, it's like seeing your kid on tv.
     
  11. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have a link?
     
  12. anazarn

    anazarn Member

    May 27, 2008
    El Paso
    Club:
    CF Indios de Ciudad Juárez
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    haha, that's me.

    I got separated from everyone else on the metro and there was some kid reading the back of it angrily. I laughed.
     
  13. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AWESOME!! You really made my day when I saw that!
    I couldn't be there, but at least part of me was in spirit!!

    Next design I print, you get for free!!! ;)
     
  14. Jboc15

    Jboc15 New Member

    Jun 7, 2009
    Detroit
    [​IMG]

    Couldnt find the picutre on the Mexican website but this is the one from my phone. I'll take a better one tomorrow, but thats me in the corner in the sombrero with the shirt on.
     
  15. plastikman

    plastikman New Member

    May 27, 2009
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very sweet shirt! I also very much like the design and the color. I would be game for 4 or 5 of them when they become available. keep me posted...
     
  16. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I were you, I would check out the homepage blog on http://blog.objectivo.com/ ;)
     
  17. plastikman

    plastikman New Member

    May 27, 2009
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    EWHEATLEY- Yo! you gotta tell me where I can score some of those shirts! They are sweet! I would order a handful!
     
  18. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Limited edition Brother. All sold out :(
    If we win another, dos-a-cero, they will be available!
     
  19. Tucson_soccer_fan

    Feb 11, 2007
    AZ, TUCSON
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Had to fix your post. Sorry.
     
  20. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My Mistake. :rolleyes:
     
  21. ewheatley

    ewheatley Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did objectivo.com give you a free shirt for wearing the Dos-A-Cero to Azteca? Which one did you get??
     
  22. anazarn

    anazarn Member

    May 27, 2008
    El Paso
    Club:
    CF Indios de Ciudad Juárez
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I picked up the red card one.
     
  23. JohhnyCaps

    JohhnyCaps Member

    Jul 20, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK - I want one of these shirts - updated with the latest Columbus smackdown of course...

    Are these going to be reprinted?

    Can they be put on a print-on-demand storefront like Cafe Press or Zazzle?
     
  24. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glad someone found this thread. I figured I was just going to need to put some tape on my current shirt with the "update"
     
  25. JohhnyCaps

    JohhnyCaps Member

    Jul 20, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just messaged the original shirt designer and asked him to chime in on feasibility...
     

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