Don't tell me that the VAR Thread is still going?

Oh wait... Team B gets a penalty shout, then breaks a player from Team A's leg, then counters post-injury and scores a goal. Is that right? So the ref misses the penalty AND the foul which ended up with a players leg being broken? Man... this guy should be reffing U8 games at 7:00 am for the USYSL.

Penalty would be given for Team B, and leg-breaker would be sent off. Final answer.

This actually is a good question. I mean the situation itself is nearly impossible, but it does poke at the realities of how VAR might address a combination of calls, which is interesting in its own way.

In reality, if you'd read the rules you'd know this can't really happen... VAR has rules to stop play when reviewing an incident when the ball enters a neutral phase of play. So for this to even be remotely plausible we have to assume either an insane flurry of incredibly specific incidents in a very short amount of time, or a really shitty referee crew working this match, or both.

 

VAR has rules addressing this. I pointed out the problem, in your example you've built-in a poor referee that isn't upholding the rules correctly. And a bad ref can ignore and ******** up any rule, that's not the rule's problem.

 

In the case of this all happening in a flurry of activity in/around the box, the ref would have to be really shitting the bed for this to not get a whistle -- both the penalty and the red card leg-break are plays which should stop the game. If the ref doesn't recognize this, it's really on him. I'm not even really defending VAR here, I'm just saying... I don't understand why you think this one would be on VAR when the ref has so clearly ********ed this up.

The "more offending team" is always going to benefit when you have a ref so bad that he isn't even seeing leg-breaking red-card challenges.

 

I don't think so, personally. A ref that misses a red card offense in or very near the penalty box because of someone in his ear, which is something he's trained for and at which he's supposed to be basically an expert, is something for which there is no excuse.

That said, while the situation is hardly practical it is interesting because it is relevant to the priorities of VAR. And were it to happen, I think the principle of VAR says that the leg-breaker is sent off and the penalty is taken. If there's blame to be assigned, it's due tos the ref not being aware enough to stop play before the red card, or if it happens quickly then at most it's the VAR team not communicating quickly so that play is stopped. If the red incident were to happen so quickly that the VAR booth needs to almost instantly stop play when the ref doesn't see a foul in the box, I think the red card tackle was probably going to happen anyway.

To what degree do you think a prior whistle would have stopped Roy Keane from that challenge, for instance?

 

I mean, he certainly should be right? It's also hard to presume what exactly is being paid attention to by professionals, they can surprise you sometimes.

VAR review in Shampton Bmouth... lovely King goal wiped away because he was about a foot offside. Great counter and through ball was from Solanke, shame for that reason. Could probably have let the ball go a bit sooner with the same result. Too bad.

 

VAR check on shoulder-to-shoulder bump in the box! Ref said it was no pen to start with... one of those 50/50 sorts of challenges though!

I've seen it called. Probably wouldn't give it myself.

 

Well, since it's hypothetical we'll never know. Either way an assault charge goes nowhere due to the plausible deniability of not having heard the whistle... because in this example, these incidents are really close together, right?

 

That's a rough one.

 

It’s really more about the clear obvious language of VAR correction.

LFC saved today by the close call. And we’re also possibly hurt by a linesman getting a Trent offside wrong, Liverpool retain possession after a goalmouth scramble and could have scored if not for the incorrect flag.