CAN STEVEN STOP SAYING THAT DONETSK IS THE FARTHEST EAST PLACE THAT A TEAM COULD POSSIBLY GO IN EUROPEAN PLAY? He sounds like a total idiot. Kenny was telling him he thought Rubin was farther away than Shakhtar, and that idea was totally pooh-poohed. He has no idea where Ukraine is if he doesn't know there are places in the Russian league that are much farther east than Ukraine. He must have Ukraine confused with Kazakhstan. that is all