News: Donald Trump goes on a twitter rant against Megan Rapinoe

Bigotry in the name of religion is still bigotry.

 

Hi @Timon19. Good to see you again. Happy to help.

This isn't about violating the Establishment Clause, it's actually the opposite.

Religious organizations and politicians are weaponizing the 1st Amendment. They are using "free speech" as the backbone of discrimination.
i.e - "Exercising my religious belief is more important than your civil rights."

Why are you talking about some of these other Amendments? What does Unreasonable Search warrants have to do with this?

 

You keep intimating that Hinkle is violating civil rights. I seek to clarify which ones.

Until a court decision comes down that states "you may exercise your 1st Amendment rights unless we find you sufficiently icky, then you can't", you're stuck with people saying unpopular and/or bigoted things. Unless and until an action is taken to deny another person their rights under the Constitution, we're just talking about assholery. Which is still legal.

Ideally, Hinkle's religion (composed of assholes in one aspect, IMO) can say and practice how they like unless and until another right comes into conflict. They can exclude the gays from their shitty little club, and everyone else can tell them they're assholes (and preferably why they are). No one's rights are being violated.

Bigotry is not illegal. There's a reason for that. Several, in fact.

I suggest spending your energy on convincing others why their bigotry is bad.

 

Wow, Timon, I just don't know how I'd have gotten through my day without your suggestion as to what I should do with my time and energy. But perhaps YOU could follow your own suggestion and spend your energy convincing others why sexism, homophobia, and other bigoted poisons are bad. I don't see you doing that in your many comments here.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...apinoe-and-nba-stars-know-about-trump/592888/

https://deadspin.com/megan-rapinoe-cannot-make-this-any-clearer-1835936942

 

US is not better than everyone else. The soon you realize it the better. By "you" I mean all USWNT fans.

 

Ok, so it seems like you are incapable of retaining or understanding what people have previously written. Or you refuse to.

People here are also talking about political theory and ideas. Not everything is directly about HINKLE, this isn't even a Hinkle thread.

For the 3rd time, Hinkle is not violating any civil rights herself. That's not what we are talking about, nobody is arguing that.

However, Hinkle is a strong advocate for the restriction of civil rights of LGBT people in the name of her religion.

And like I said - Bigots (or anti-black, anti-jewish, etc.) are routinely disciplined for speaking out publicly against equality, or routinely saying racist statements, or in this case, speaking against the equality of their teammates.

 

So Jemele Hill is now writing for the Atlantic? I guess she got tired of pretending on ESPN that she even remotely cares about sports.

 

Why do I need to join the chorus? You seem to have it covered. I'm covering an aspect of this that seems to be full of fundamental misunderstanding.

 

No, but stubbornly, she keeps coming up. Or the situation between her and the USWNT, anyway.

Thank you for clearing that up. It would be great if you stuck to that and stopped intimating otherwise.

This is true. And unless and until she or her religion acts on those positions, they're merely bigots.

You are correct. So stop intimating that it's more than that.

 

Не надо так говорить! А и никто Вас не поймет если пишете на крилицу.

 

The US is #1 in the World so they are better than everyone else right now. Today they will prove it again.

 

Great articles, both spot on, and they heighten my esteem of Megan Rapinoe.

Unluckily, by even just looking at some comments here on this very thread, it looks like the clown in chief reached his primary target of giving validation to some points of view that shouldn't be accepted in a democratic society, of starting off poisonous discussions and of generally distracting people.

I wonder if he will also obtain his obvious secondary target of destabilizing the team and trying to cooperate to its elimination from the World Cup by corrupting the general atmosphere around it (although I actually hope that the players won't care too much about his desperate attention-seeking move).

It's not a secret that I don't root for USA and that I would want France to win tonight, but a part of me cringes at the notion that this would make Trump revel in delight.

 

Looks like Timon doesn't want to follow Timon's own suggestion and speak out against sexism, homophobia, and other bigoted poisons. What a surprise.

 

How very cheap of you.

 

Article on Megan Rapinoe from today's New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/...trump-white-house.html?searchResultPosition=1

 

Ok, my two cents. Rapinoe is barely hanging on now and this is most likely her final major tournament. Her level of play has greatly slipped just as her speed has. I have greatly appreciated Pino over the years as a player and dont really care about her sexual preferences. I watch the team to see a soccer game and not political statements. However, her political stands and comments on the White House has given the team a bad name and she is basically a distraction at this point. A sporting event, where you are representing your country, is not the time or place to make some kind of statement. Do it on your own time if you want, I dont care. But I am personally insulted when the cameras pans to her and she is the ONLY one not crossing her heart. I totally expect that to happen again today ....... if she even starts.

So now we have a fading star that is disruptive and is generating a lot of negative news coverage for the team. I really hope Ellis puts her on the bench today. Her performance against Spain should be enough to do that. Her pathetic comments about the White House visit should put the icing on that cake. I truly hope her teammates dont support her and that she stands alone over this. Finally, after this tournament, I hope to see her to fade into the sunset and become a memory

 

Are you similarly put out when Jozy doesn't "cross his heart"?

 

Well if you want to compare pigs as to which one is wallowing more in the mud. Go for it. They're both pigs, wallowing in the mud.

 

Fighting for equal pay and equal rights is not wallowing in the mud.

 

Yeah... sure. It should be required. Maybe hes just smarter and keeps his feelings to himself?

 

No, there should not be requirements or laws on where one's hand is during the anthem.

That is some seriously Un-American, Fascist talk.

 

I take that as a "no".