Do We Let Them Vote Next Time?

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  1. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    And it is....?
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    Do we also ban GOP voters?

    Because based on today ....
     
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  3. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
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    Do we support genocide of brown people because it furthers a national interest?
     
  4. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    You can propose an amendment to article 2 of the constitution.

    To serve as president, one must:

    • be a natural-born U.S. citizen of the United States;
    • be at least thirty-five years old;
    • be a resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.
    • not be a reality TV show host.
    There. Problem solved, and nobody gets disenfranchised. Only negative is, it won't lead to you becoming Supreme Commander.
     
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  5. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    And which GOP state legislatures pass this amendment?
     
  6. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

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    Well, I can't see them agreeing to being a U.S. Citizen of the United States.
     
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  7. ceezmad

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    You make abortions super illegal under the same amendment?

    Or what would you be willing to give up in exchange to not have a reality TV star as President anymore.
     
  8. argentine soccer fan

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    The same ones that would disenfranchise voters. I thought we were not concerned with the logistics.
     
  9. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    I'd allow the states to impose tariffs on imports.
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

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    Abortions, morning-after pill, prayer in school...just to get us to sit at the table to start talking.
     
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  11. Auriaprottu

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    Yeah, "we"'ve done that.
     
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  12. Timon19

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    I'm talking about current times and I'm asking someone in particular, but thanks!
     
  13. argentine soccer fan

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    So did we, in the Pampas. Evil knows no borders.
     
  14. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    So, Oprah is out?
     
  15. argentine soccer fan

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    Well yeah. Haven’t you heard? We need to save our nation from TV show hosts.
     
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  16. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    This would have saved us from Reagan if it had been in effect in 1980.
     
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  17. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    You've made it clear logistics are back on the table. Which GOP-led state legislatures?
     
  18. argentine soccer fan

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    I did not. I'm following your lead, you posted this:

    I chose to engage the discussion based on the above statement. The brilliance of this thread is tied to that statement. If we were to engage in a discussion about the logistics of getting the constitution changed - other than in jest - it would ruin this thread, and I'd see no more reason to participate. So, stop asking me about the logistics.

    You stated that there is no middle ground between electing an incompetent president and disenfranchising your political opponents. I pointed out that there is an obvious middle ground, which is to make the requirements for becoming president more stringent. Logistics aside, I'm sure you can see that this is indeed the case.
     
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  19. ToMhIlL

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    "Can not be a Reality TV Star" as a requirement has too many loopholes. I mean, Omorosa or whatever her name is, could run, because she's not really a "star." And when Sean Spicer was on Dancing with the Stars, was he considered a "dancer" or a "Star?" What if they brought in Rudolf Nureyev on that show? He'd be both.

    Maybe something like a candidate would have to have served X years in an elected public office etc. I dunno if you want to restrict it to a Senator, House Rep or State Governor (or even Mayor) but there has to be some sort of criteria. Otherwise you'd get some community organizer, which, if you listen to some people, is far, far worse than a Reality TV Star....
     
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  20. argentine soccer fan

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    You are thinking long term. For the current crisis, Reality TV Show Host will work. Of course, it has to be made retroactive, otherwise by the next election there might not be a nation left to save.
     
  21. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    I see.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    America has become a cargo cult

    You turn on your 85 inch smart LED Flatscreen to watch a nappy swaddled President claim that scientists are part of a liberal marxist conspiracy to put bird murdering windmills all over American that will mean your TV stops working on still days.

    This is the country that sent man to the moon. Now Mr Nappies proposes a space force that is little more than a badge on a hat.

    Few people see the irony in that.
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    A simpler solution would be to ban criminals from running for president.

    require massive disclosure of tax returns, financial info, funding etc
     
  24. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    Fully half of the media bubble tells me that ALL Democrats are criminals.
     
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  25. argentine soccer fan

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    Yes. But shouldn't be go beyond that? Just about every job that requires any sort of skill - from CEO to Janitor - always comes with requirements based on qualifications and experience. And yet the so called "most powerful job in the world" does not, other than age and being a US citizen. Isn't that a bit odd? And as far as I know, it's pretty much the same non-requirements in most if not all presidential democracies, so it's not just the USA.

    As far as Broomie's idea, I find it brilliantly creative. In Argentina we have a very long history of people voting stupid, and throughout our history we've tried just about everything - outlawing candidates, outlawing political parties, even outlawing elections. But nobody ever thought of actually disenfranchising only those particular voters who vote stupid. I know it's extreme and it's unlikely to work, and it's impossible to implement save by force, but as an idea, it's freaking awesome!
     

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