Do We Let Them Vote Next Time?

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  1. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Beats me. Some sort of constitutional convention where Republicans aren't permitted to field delegates.
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    I wonder if there could be some kind of truth and reconciliation process - involving a task force to prosecute the crooks, and show trials to make an example of them.

    Combined with a new Operating System
     
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  3. dapip

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    In order to prevent the republicans from destroying the nation, we have to become them.


    Sounds about right...
     
  4. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    You haven't had much of a problem becoming my bullshit-spamming grandmother as it is, so what's the fuss?
     
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  5. ceezmad

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    What you are saying is that we finally get to see "her Emails"! :whistling:
     
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    There really isn't any need for this kind of post
     
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  7. dapip

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    He's republicanazing-toryaching himself in time for the NWO.
     
  8. argentine soccer fan

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    So, when we have the constitutional convention, we exclude Republicans, and we exclude twit spammers. Might as well solve all our problems at once.
     
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  9. Timon19

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    Oh, propriety and comity is now a concern of the genocide advocate only after making insinuations? Makes sense!
     
  10. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Your universal and broad concern for the tone and decorum of this forum is noted.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    When you stick to great content - you get engagement, and that's what will help here.

    I'd really urge everyone to stop with the personal attacks.
     
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  12. dapip

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    Once we eliminate the vote of all the people he deems not worthy, he will finally have the perfect democracy of one.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    Where shall we send the people who want to make everyone post like its 2003? :p
     
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  14. Timon19

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    Would you?
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

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    I feel you are correct about this stuff broadly, but I also feel that an attempt to go in this direction will lead to a despot.

    I argued it might have been better for Obama to press the reset button in 2016 when it was clear what was happening.
     
  16. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    This isn't a "worthy/not worthy" argument. We have constitutional impediments to deterring the election of another reality TV show host. The only way to change those impediments is to thwart the votes of a large segment of the public. Either we're okay with electing more reality TV hosts, or we're okay with disenfranchising political opponents to make major changes.

    There's not a middle ground I'm aware of.
     
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  17. ceezmad

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    Meh, that seems harsh.

    Maybe just count their votes as 3/5ths of a vote.

    Or is someone going to claim that counting someone as 3/5ths of a person is unconstitutional? (well I guess after the 13th it is now).

    Do they have to be reality, can we get the Rock in there somehow.
     
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  18. The Jitty Slitter

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    Personally I would like to see

    1. Broadcasting standards. it's absurd how tightly regulated we are as an industry in making claims in Financial Services, yet pols can simply lie without consequence. Why should this be allowed?

    2. Breakup of the Google/FSBook media Duopoly.
     
  19. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    That's the legitimate fear - that constitutional changes will not lead to a better democracy, but despotism. There really isn't a reassuring argument I can make that will assuage those concerns.

    My question - which remains unanswered - is at what level of, for lack of a better word, Trumpism, makes that risk worth it?

    If, say, Trump does what the hypothetical Trump did in "Years and Years" and nuke a Chinese man-made island, are we then ready to embrace some disenfranchisement?

    What if Trump voters pick Don Jr as the nominee in 2024?

    Pick your poison.
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    I am already at the point where I am all in

    If we wait more years we will have despots in the US, UK and elsewhere
     
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  21. Timon19

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    No, really, would you?
     
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  22. argentine soccer fan

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    I’m going to start a new forum called Boomerland.
     
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  23. argentine soccer fan

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    It inevitably will. And I already can see Brummie assenting, and pointing to himself as the only choice.
     
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  24. argentine soccer fan

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    Of course there is.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    I will send my posts via Teleprinter
     

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