Review: Diogo Dalot

Discussion in 'Portugal' started by Gilbertsson, May 22, 2019.

  1. Gilbertsson

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    Switzerland
    Diogo Dalot - the new defensive talent.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogo_Dalot

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    His future should be great, just like the past of Fernando Couto, Jorge Andrade, Fernando Meira, Ricardo Carvalho, Bruno Alves, if we observe only defensive positions and roles.

    What do you think about his perspective?
     
  2. prodigal_mind

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    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Lol
     
  3. verde-rubro

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    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
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    Liverpool FC
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    Portugal
    He needs to find another club just not doing it at manure
     
  4. prodigal_mind

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    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Not their fault hes injured all the time
     
  5. verde-rubro

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    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
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    Even when he played he was trash
     
  6. prodigal_mind

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    Cristiano Ronaldo
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    Jul 3, 2018
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    Portugal
    agreed. He is done at united. He will never displace awb, and they even have another good prospect coming through in Laird.

    when he’s played he has been pretty awful. Players seem to get passed him very easily and he seems slow.
     
  7. Joe Martelo

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    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    He is very talented, if I was coaching him he would be much better . I feel that solsjaer doesn’t know how to properly harness his abilities.

    I would like to see him loaned to Sporting. Amorim would work wonders with him.
     
  8. HandofAbel

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    Jun 19, 2017
    eu estou aqui
    Nat'l Team:
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    I know the allure of a big club is strong, and I know that on occasion it works out, but I hate when I see young Portuguese talent make the move too early.

    You can only develop your game so much without consistent first team football, even at a smaller club.
     
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  9. Gilbertsson

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    What do you think about Wolverhampton? Small Portuguese community there: Portland, Porthamptugal, Wortugal, Wolvertugal.:cool:
     
  10. Gilbertsson

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    Many players don't care about trophies, glory hunt...they just want few expensive contracts, open nice bar, restaurant and achieve steady income.
    All those who play on high level, they play because of money. Not because of F.A. Cup, national league title, especially if they have few titles.

    If Dalot ended in weaker club, he would be active, with less money, more injuries. At least he is known, he can make commercial videos for companies. It depends, did he ever had ambitions.

    People usually think that Portugal doesn't have great defenders, gk's, but they are wrong.
     
  11. Gilbertsson

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  12. SCP_16

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    Bay Area
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    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Bought a dude because he one good game against LFC? Yikes. That never works out.
     
  13. Joe Martelo

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    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    Really? I’m not sure who you are discussing football with. Perhaps before the mid 90s /2000s this was true but since than there have been many good ones.

    Be careful who you talk football with, I find that many people talk football without having proper credentials. For example, I myself have scouting and youth coaching experience.

    Btw, wait until you see Eduardo Quaresma (CB) and Luis Maximiano (GR) from Sporting.

    Quaresma reminds me of a mix of Pepe/ Ricardo Carvalho. He is elegant like Carvalho but has the speed and quickness of Pepe. He is amazing with his feet as well and can build and dictate the play from behind the midfield.

    Luis Maximiano, pretty much will be the next Rui Patricio. However, I think at his age, Luis May be superior to What Rui was. Sporting was patient with Patricio in his early days where he was known for making mistakes, but he developed into a well rounded and very solid goalkeeper. When I train young goalkeepers I also am patient with them as much as possible, but the problem is a goalkeeper mistake can be more costly. My philosophy above winning, is to let the kids develop and become better footballers . I also try to get them to play as beautiful as possible. I see myself more as a Johan Cruyff rather than a Mourinho.

    Btw, are you a Vasco da Gama fan?
    Edmundo was one of my fav players due to his aggression and heart.
     
  14. Gilbertsson

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    #14 Gilbertsson, Jul 4, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2020
    Many talented players ended their careers with modest achievements. Scolari said that Portugal has defensive problems. This was not so far in the past. Portugal has better defensive central players: Costinha, Maniche. There were great defenders: Couto, Jorge Costa, Vidigal, Bruno Alves, Coentrao, Fernando Meira, Bosingwa, Carvalho, Paulo Ferreira, Rui Jorge, Secretario...lets not forget red cards of Couto, own goal of Jorge Costa against USA, Abel Xavier had problems.
    But central players, wingers, this was always great, at least since I follow in live, 1994 WC. Portugal improved formation 4-2-3-1.
    They glorified Nuno Capucho also, as talented one, Pedro Mendes. But they were not so great.
    Guedes, Felix should be those classical attackers. Probably better than Joao Pinto, Nuno Gomes.
    The next World Cup should be interesting for Portugal.
    Portugal could bring Gameiro, Robert Pires, Antoine Griezmann, Carrasco..they are all Portuguese.
    Yes, I like Vasco da Gama from Brazil. Clubs that I like are listed below in my signature. Edmundo could be much greater, if only he had calmer nature. He was just like Diego Costa, maybe worse in temperament. :) Why don't you get Brazilians of Portuguese descent? Diego Costa probably has more Portuguese blood than Spanish.
    Bebeto, Rai, Edmilson...they all seem very Portuguese.

    Why do you have yellow cards? Natura furiosa? :)
     
  15. Gilbertsson

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    He avoided mistakes, nothing attractive, but no mistakes. Dalot should be in Spanish league.
     
  16. Joe Martelo

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    Sep 30, 2019
    Zico was a first generation Brazilian of Portuguese descent. Eduardo Quaresma on Sporting is his cousin !
     
  17. Gilbertsson

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Brazilian_people_of_Portuguese_descent

    Interesting, only 2,5% say that they are Brazilians of Portuguese descent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Brazilians

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_(footballer,_born_1991)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casemiro_do_Amaral

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_(footballer,_born_1985)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juninho_Pernambucano

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquinhos

    Early settlement and colonization (1500–1700)
    Immigrants to Brazil departed from Portugal via the ports of Lisbon (Leixões), Porto, and Funchal on Madeira.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Portugal

    Portugal rather uses players of Angola, Mozambique, Capo Verde, they mostly don't have Portuguese origins. Some exceptions like Eusebio.

    Plenty of great Brazilians with full Portuguese origins like Leonardo, Juninho Paulista, Lucas Leiva...not sure why PFF doesn't scout much more there.
     
  18. Joe Martelo

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    Sep 30, 2019
    Angolans, Cape Verde, Mozambicans, etc they often immigrate to Portugal. There is a large African - Portuguese community. Those countries also were colonies up until 1974/75.

    Most Brazilians seem to not be interested in their portuguese heritage. It is obviously way more than 2.5 percent. It’s like White Americans who call themselves American, if they have British ancestry it was long ago and no longer relevant. The same applies in Brazil with many Portuguese, unless they were part of a more recent immigration.

    However, Zico is well known to be a portuguese-Brazilian and is probably the best example of one when it comes to players.
     
  19. verde-rubro

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    until they want to come to Europe to live and work, then they go running as fast they can to get them self's a Portuguese passport
     
  20. Joe Martelo

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    Sep 30, 2019
    Lmfao
     
  21. Gilbertsson

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    #21 Gilbertsson, Jul 6, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2020
    Why do you think that Maxi Pereira started from Portugal...:D
    It's similar with people of Spanish descent in Hispanic South American countries.
    It's interesting to notice how many people of South America ask for European passports, just so that they can move from difficult conditions...not just footballers.
    Galicia is another interesting region for Portugal...:whistling: La Corunha.

    This with 2,5% of Brazilians with Portuguese descent is funny to see, 60,70% much relevant percent.

    Footballer from Uruguay Sebastian Abreu has that Portuguese surname.

    I think that Zico is a fan of Sporting Lisboa.

    I remember those critical tones against Deco. Why he plays for us? He is Brazilian. Figo attacked him also. But he is da Souza after all. On the other hand people from Mozambique, Angola, Cape Verde were more accepted. Nani is Cape Verdean, but he has Portuguese origins also, just like CR7 who has great-grandmother from C. Verde.

    Even weaker Brazilians rather choose Brazil instead of Portugal. A lot of Brazilian footballers have Amerindian or African origins. But those with fuller Portuguese origins could think twice.:rolleyes:
     
  22. Joe Martelo

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    There are some Uruguyans with Portuguese heritage. Uruguay was once part of Brazilian territory when it was under Portuguese control.
     
  23. Gilbertsson

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    Yes, there are.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Portuguese_diaspora

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Portuguese_diaspora_in_South_America

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Uruguayans

    Lucas Torreira (born 1996 in Fray Bentos), footballer
    José Luis Pintos Saldanha (born 1964 in Artigas), footballer
    Sebastián Abreu (born 1976 in Minas), footballer
    Mario Regueiro (born 1978 in Montevideo), footballer

    Maybe he also
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Álvaro_Pereira

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Argentine_people_of_Portuguese_descent

    Because of Covid 19, financial reduction, we could expect European football federations in actions for diaspora players.
     
  24. Joe Martelo

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    I really doubt that.
    Maybe Italy will do that with Argentines like they often do.
     
  25. Gilbertsson

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