Die Deutsche Fußballnationalmannschaft News & Discussion Thread - Road to Russia 2018 Thread (R)

For now I would pick:

Neuer, ter Stegen, Trapp

Kimmich
Rudiger, Sule, Hummels, Boateng
Hector, Halstenberg

Rudy, Kroos, Goretzka, Khedira, Gundogan
Mueller, Sane
Oezil, Stindl
Reus, Draxler

Mario Gomez, Timo Werner


Backup:

Fahrmann

Klostermann
Howedes, Ginter, Mustafi, Orban
Plattenhardt, Philipp Max

Emre Can, Weigl, Max Meyer
Brandt, Schuerrle
Goetze, Demirbay
Younes, Philipp

Sandro Wagner, Uth

 

I would say the most positive thing about this game, is that with this lineup, twice were down and twice we came back.

from one site. Complete agree with them.

Emre Can
He did a good job of marking the French attackers but he seemed to make a few errors. He was unable to stop Martial and Lacazette from scoring the opener though (33’) and appeared to not really do anything to try. In fact, he happened to position himself just right so as to keep Lacazette just onside. Eek. Some of his touches were a bit off too. Certainly not his best performance. Emre Can’t.

Currently I find Mustafi, Wagner, Can, and Draxler are the underachievers to horrible in the pool of players.

 

Gundogan is improving. I don’t have any doubt about his ability, intelligence and technique. When he is fully fit, he will again become one of the best midfielders in the world along with Modric/Thiago/Kroos/De Bryune just like he did in 2012/13. But what the hack is Can doing? This guy should not be even included in the squad. He is not as good as Rudy/Khedira as a defensive midfielder nor is he as good as Kimmich as a right-back.

Other than that, what is the rationale of not including Mario Gomez in the national team? Despite scoring a goal today, Werner wasted so many chances. I really missed Gomez’s physical presence in the box and ability to hold-up play up front.

Gomez is probably the closest thing we have to Lewandowski.

 

He's 21 years old and way ahead of Klose at this point in his career.

 

not a really fair comparison as Klose's career was a weird case. Better to compare Werner's path to Gomez and the other strikers that came after Klose.

with the year over. I would say the best players of this year for us have been Kimmich, Goretzka, Stindl and Werner.

and props to Gundo, played very well against England and France. All he needs is more game time and get 100% fit and he'll be a powerful asset.

 

but Germany was exposed yesterday which is great, probably gonna do something for the next games to avoid it again (or ar least not so many times)

Rüdiger had a solid game yesterday apart from the case leading to the 2nd French goal

 

Was also thinking that .... Looks like he def wants to take CAN with , so he moves him to RB backup?

 

Well after last night ... maybe Werner and Stindl

 

Clearly See that Loew is planning with Draxler and Oezil....Always playing Draxler(well maybe as he is not getting much play time at his club) .... Seems Low wants to take CAN with so as there is no spot for him in Midfield he will give up a defender,

Thought Plattenhart had some good actions, also some mistakes but some nice crosses into the box.

Allot will depend now on Hector, Reus getting fit

 

None of these players is eligible for France. You do know that wasnt a training game of France vs their reserves yesterday?

 

I would definitely like to see Gomez included in the squad, he offers something that Werner and Stindl don't, a physical presence with strong aerial ability. Having a versatile set of strikers is important, He is better then Wagner imo. I would nominate Werner, Stindl and Gomez.

Plan A might not always work, so having a traditional target man is still a valid, and potentially key alternative tactic against teams who defend very deep.

Hopefully after the WC Selke will be ready to take over from Gomez in that role.

 

Emre Can is a ********

We struggling against France second team

Fear to imagine what Sidibe,Mendy,Pogba,Griezzmann,Lemar,Dembele do to this poor performance

 

And Goetze.... Also another one that Loew wants to take with ........I wonder if Schurrle now has a good couple of games if he will nominate him also again?

1. Neuer

2. Ter Stegen

3. Trapp

4. Leno


1. Kimmich

2. Hummels

3. Boateng

4. Sule

5. Gintner
6. Hector

7. Rudiger

8. Heinrichs

9. Plattenhardt

10. Halstenberg


1. Kroos

2. Khedira

3. Rudy

4. Gundogan

5. Goretzka

6. Oezil

7. Goetze

8. Muller

9. Sane

10. Draxler

11. Reus

12. Brandt

13. CAN

14. Weigl

15. Younes

16. Schurrle


1. Werner

2. Stindl

3. Wagner

4. Gomez

 

I also agree with the both of you about Gomez. He's needed for the WC, even just as an option. He has tons of experience and he provides something different. All he needs is to do better than Wagner and is chances increase even more. But seriously, both games this week, Wagner came off the bench and was not impressive at all. Was completely useless, slow and ineffective vs England and against France did nothing but get booked while Stindl provided more.

also hoping for the same that post WC, it goes between Werner, Selke, Uth, Stindl.........and then maybe Wagner.

 

Pretty poor marking at France’s first goal yesterday though, no one marked number 10

 

Gomez is 100% going to the WC if he isn't injured.

If you guys have been watching the NT along with Loew since 2006, you will probably notice a trend. In friendlies and qualifiers the team is less compact and organized, defense is a little weak etc. After the pre-tournament training camp, those issues are gone. I am not worried at all.

EC2008: 7 GA
WC2010: 3 GA
EC2012: 6 GA
WC2014: 4 GA
EC2016: 3 GA

EC2012 and EC 2008 were our worst tournaments defensively, but in the 2 World Cups that Loew has coached we have played 13 matches (not counting 3rd place match in 2010) and conceded 7 goals.

 

Many people are being too optimistic about Reus making the squad

 

If he doesn't we have an inform Sane to fall back on.

 

In the future I'd love to see a midfield of Weigl, Kroos, and Gundogan.

 

I m very sure Loew will bring a backup fullback. Either Plattenhardt or Halstenberg. It's very risky to bring just two natural fullbacks

I think both played well against England or France.

And Halstenberg I think may have the upper hand because he is better defensively N has CL experience

Loew actually brings in 3 fullbacks (Lahm, Durm, Grosskreutz) in WC 2014 too

I don't think both Goetze n Stindl will be called up. Maybe either one...

N Mario Gomez will be there to provide a plan B

 

as long as Mustafi isn't included. Although not sure who's been worse Ginter or Mustafi?

 

Both have been dreadful for god's sake
Süle and Rüdiger as back ups for Hummels and Boateng

 

but if Low takes 5 CB, who's your 5th choice?

I would go with Howedes, if he's playing and fit.