Dest & Yedlin

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Joe Kurr, Nov 18, 2019.

  1. Joe Kurr

    Joe Kurr Member

    Sporting Kansas City
    United States
    Mar 21, 2017
    Both play Right Back. Assuming that both are healthy, and available for future selections, where do you slot them in, position wise?
     
  2. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dest on the left and Yedlin on the right.
     
  3. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Yes.

    During the Canada game I could have sworn I heard Ian Darke say that Dest actually prefered playing on the left.

    Regardless, even if not true, I think Dest is one of the few of our players that can succeed playing "out of position."
     
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  4. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Of course once Adams comes back Yedlin loses his place unless GB puts him on the wing. :/
     
  5. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dest wherever he fits the tactic - may be left back, right back, right wing, lm, or rm. Utilize like we did Fabian, increasing his value. There's nothing Dest can't do at left back that he does at right back. He's relatively two-footed, not long-cross oriented, rather shot-oriented. That he can actually do better on the cut in at lb.

    Cannon and/or Lima fit in and right and/or left back until we have further info. Both have probably out-played Yedlin for the nt recently. Especially if you're going to play possession, Yedlin is far from an ideal fit.

    I'll be livid if Cannon doesn't play tomorrow to qualify him for the UK work permit to facilitate a move to the EPL where he reportedly has an offer. When he's there, then he may be viewed differently.
     
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  6. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Dest will end up being a touchline RM in due time.

    While that occurs Beerholder will play swapsies with him and DY
     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    If we had to play Brazil/France tomorrow in a R16 World Cup game:

    ---------------------------Steffen-----------------------------
    ------------Miazga-----Brooks-----Long-----------------
    Yedlin----------Adams-------McKennie---------Dest
    --------------Morris--------------------Pulisic---------------
    -----------------------------Weah------------------------------

    Assuming:

    1) Brooks regains form and becomes a starter for Wolfsburg again;
    2) Weah & Adams return as they used to be, and keep improving;
    3) McKennie plays for the NT as he does for Schalke.

    Subs:
    Horvath
    Zimmerman
    Ream
    Cannon
    Yueill
    Lletget
    Zardes

    We'd still get destroyed, though.
     
  8. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Do we have any official confirmation?

    From what I've seen, he needs to play in:
    • 60% of competitive games for a team ranked 21-30 in FIFA Rankings
    • 75% of competitive games for a team ranked 31-50
    The FIFA ranking in the article I read was "over the last two years." I'm not sure if that's just the current ranking at the end or there's another way to get it.

    This would be Reggie's 8th game in 10 games over the last two years -- Gold Cup plus Nations League (nothing in 2018). Which would definitely lock it in.

    But the US is #23 in FIFA rankings, so maybe he's already qualified? No idea on my end, really, but I haven't seen anything but a few twitter posts by random people on it.

    Either way, I hope he plays.

    EDIT: Lowest ranking we've had over the last two years was 30th.
     
  9. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want both on the field. Dest at LB, Yedlin at RB.
     
  10. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    good point on cannon. not sure why he didn't get the boyd cameo in orlando.
     
  11. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    against Brazil/France, I would not defend with seven two way players (i.e., force morris and pulisic to expend a lot of energy defending). I think we'd have to switch one of the top three for a more well-rounded player.
     
  12. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IMO, this is really a good problem to have. We've got two younger FBs pushing for an EPL starter's NT spot. Partly because Cannon and Lima play a little more possession, a little more reserved, but still.

    Yedlin is still a solid player. Not perfect, but still good. And Lima/Cannon are not without fault.
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Until we get a natural LB emerging of international quality (maybe Gloster of PSV for instance)....................then I'm also in the Dest on the left camp. Yedlin, Cannon, Lima, etc. battle royale on the right.

    TIm Ream at LB ain't gonna cut it against even the top of CONCACAF......................
     
  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    We have not heard that he has an official "offer" from the UK.
    We've heard "interest" from a Premier League and a Championship club. In the summer window there was interest from elsewhere in Europe and Mexico.

    Either way, this is low hanging fruit for the Cuba game. Start Cannon.
     
  15. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    I think this is a tough call. We have to consider is it better to have one of our more accomplished players playing a secondary position to get Yedlin on the field or do we want to maximize our top guys in their best spots? And I guess I wonder why we would want to make someone like Dest a utility player to plug the gaps. Personally, I want my utility players to be more run of the mill types. I don't think you want your top players being fill in guys all over the field. And I consider Dest one of our top players. I'm not 100% sold in either direction but I do think it is a much more complicated decision than just flipping Dest to the left to get more strong players on the field.

    And that's without even getting into the thing where Dest is one of our most skilled players and is better in traffic further forward than most of our other guys. So, if you want to pull him out of position, does it make more sense to move him forward? I see Dest being an important piece of the puzzle for this team but he's still young and there are a ton of factors that will affect where he ultimately ends up. I just tend to hope it is in a single position he can lock into rather than getting pulled all over and never really making one spot his own.
     
  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I wish someone had asked Berhalter whether Dest's start at RB was more about Dest at his preferred position or more about wanting to play effectively with 3 CBs against Canada.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Its not really a tough question.

    Bruce Arena said once that Landon Donovan was our best forward, our best winger, and our best midfielder. He often didn't put Landon in his favored position. He wanted to field the best TEAM.

    If we're overall a better team with Dest on the left and Yedlin on the right..............then that's what you go with when the games start to mean something.

    If your national team is performing like you want it to, the guys leave their egos at the door.
     
  18. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    JOB was playing LB for Ajax and CM for us. Who knows what his best position was. Dest might play LB now, RB later and somewhere in midfield eventually.
     
  19. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Sure, if we're better with Dest on the left and Yedlin on the right, you play them there. But, we don't really know that. Maybe the drop off for Dest fro right to left is large or the improvement of having Yedlin on the field is so slight that it doesn't actually work that way. Or, why not move Yedlin over? The tough part is that when you move people around, it is not a simple matter of who are the "best" 11 without considering position. Our best 4 defensive guys would probably not be our best 4 man defensive line. I'm not saying Dest can't be moved around. But, I think there are a lot more factors involved and it's a stretch to say we know for sure how it shakes out best at this point.
     
  20. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    And in a real life that coveted RB spot goes to Adams of course. Just because our DMs are so good.
     
  21. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently, Lovdixz is rated over Dest to Berhalter.
     
  22. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly his bias in not that extreme, because Dest played in the much more meaningful game in the camp.
     
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  23. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yedlin on the right and Dest on the left is like a boxer who is right handed and decides that he will jab with his right and go for the knockout with his left.
     
  24. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe but Dest on the right and Lovitz on the left is like a one armed boxer.
     
  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    There's plenty of those. There aren't many with an inverted stance.

    p.s. I am speaking historically as I don't watch boxing anymore and don't recommend it to anyone.
     

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