Dems Smear a Candidate: VA Example

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  1. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

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    The Democrats often claim the high road on elections and often complain about dirty tricks during campaigns... let's examine one....

    Virginia's Senatorial Campaign: George Allen vs. Jim Webb

    Instance #1: Webb assigns one of his campaign workers to shadow Senator Allen and film his speeches; Allen calls said worker a ""macaca" in reference and apologizes. The smear here is Jim Webb's permanent assignment of S.R. Sidarth, a Webb-campaign worker and student, to shadow Allen's speeches and film Allen's reaction to his questions.

    Instance #2:At a recent McLean, VA debate, liberal journalist Peggy Fox of WUSA-TV asks Senator Allen "...whether his forebears included Jews?" Senator Allen and audience complains about the question.

    Instance #3: The Washington Post reports that Senator Allen may have used racial terms in his youth with no substantial evidence.

    Tomorrow we will examine the Dems tarnishment and smear directed toward Michael S. Steele in Maryland, who is being subject to the exact same tactics by the Dems...
     
  2. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

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    Oh, please. Even if you can excuse Allen for all of those activities (and you can't--even the National Review's editor realizes that), you're still stuck with the fact that Allen has been cozy with the Council of Concerned Conservatives.

    This is the CCC's mission statement: "We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the European-American people through so-called 'affirmative action' and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the European-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races."

    He's posed in photos with their leadership, and he appointed a sympathizer (who spoke at CCC rallies) to a post while governor. If he's not actually a racist (the more I'm learning about him, the harder I'm finding that to believe), then he's been perfectly willing to get in bed with racists to appeal to redneck voters.

    There's a reason why nobody on Archer's board (until now) has tried to defend Allen. They know that he's got some ugly skeletons in his closet.
     
  3. IntheNet

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    "racists" ... "ugly skeletons" ?

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    Can we all play this game?
     
  4. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

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    Byrd's skeletons are quite ugly, yes. No denying that.
     
  5. IntheNet

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    So? Any organization that Arianna Huffington personally criticizes seems to be a legitimate enterprise of essential value to every patriotic American! So it is with the the Council of Concerned Conservatives.

    Oh yeah... I forgot the liberal game plan... organizations such as the Family Research Council and the Council of Concerned Conservatives are dubbed by you Dems as "racist" and "bigotted" in order to smear any members and membership!
     
  6. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

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    Peggy Noonan said she wouldn't touch this particular organization with a ten-foot pole. And you apparently didn't read their statement of purpose, which is unambiguously racist.

    Not to mention that all the C's in Council of Concerned Conservatives just all happen to sound like K's. Funny, that.
     
  7. IntheNet

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    No more so than the NAACP's statement of purpose...
    No more so than the Nation of Islam's statement of purpose...

    Since when does a former Reagan speechwriter determine organizational bias? I enjoy Peggy's writing just as much as the next conservative but that is what she is... a former speech writer. Nothing more.
     
  8. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

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    Reread my first post. It's right there for you to see.
     
  9. IntheNet

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    CCC's purpose sounds a great deal tamer than anything being advocated by the NAACP and the Nation of Islam by Minister Farrakan... and bunches of Dems support both those organizations. Besides... there is nothing inherently wrong with advocacy of white Americans is there? I mean we have Asian-American advocacy, African-American advocacy, Latin-American advocacy, it would be patently unfair not to be allowed to advocate white-Americans wouldn't it? And lots of top-level organizations are against "affirmative action" and supporters of European-American heritage and white cultures.

    There is nothing wrong with being white and being proud of it.
     
  10. GringoTex

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    After reading this thread and the "Boycott Citgo!" hysteria, I'm sorry I waited so long to drop by again.
     
  11. CUS

    CUS New Member

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    Add Maryland.

     
  12. FeverNova1

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  13. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

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    Allen may be in the lead, according to this poll, but "smear campaign" is a bit of silly term to use. The dude has a long and storied history of racism and association with racist groups. No "smearing" has happened. He brought it on himself.
     
  14. IntheNet

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    So does Robert Byrd but you Dems seem to have forgooten about that...
     
  15. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

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    How could we forget? You remind us of it every twenty seconds. :rolleyes:

    Byrd is a cootering old man, of course, raised in a totally different era and location than Allen. But hey, if you can't discern the apples from the oranges at the grocery store, it's no skin off my back.
     
  16. IntheNet

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    More Maryland smear against Steele...

    From RealClearPolitics

    Maryland Dems Smear Steele At Their Peril
    By Gregory Kane

    "If Maryland Democrats were smart, they'd listen to Wayne K. Curry. That is, if they were smart. But they aren't, so they probably won't. Curry is the former county executive of Prince George's County, Md., one of the richest counties in the state, if not the country. Curry is also black and a Democrat. Two weeks ago, Curry warned his fellow party members not to demonize Maryland's Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate, Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele. "Democrats ought to be promoting what they're going to do that's positive," Curry said in a Washington Times story, "instead of trying to knock Steele down." But Maryland Democrats have a history of trying to "knock down" Republican candidates with the race card. Steele is just their latest target. Surely Curry must remember that nasty business of 1998, when Republican Ellen Sauerbrey ran for governor against then-incumbent Gov. Parris Glendening. In a classic case of race-based smear tactics gone amok, Democrats ran television ads saying that Sauerbrey opposed three civil rights bills. Each time the ads mentioned civil rights, a black face would appear on the screen. The record shows that Sauerbrey voted against rewording an open housing law, a second statute requiring Maryland State Police to document crimes against gays and a third that favored more protection from sexual harassment. Most Democrats had no use for such facts. But four of them with a sense of shame did, and told everyone who would listen that Sauerbrey wasn't a racist and that her record was being distorted. Three of the Democrats were former Baltimore Mayor Kurt Schmoke, former state Sen. Clarence Mitchell III and Del. Frank Boston. The fourth was Curry."
     
  17. FeverNova1

    FeverNova1 New Member

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    I love it when dems call reps racists. :rolleyes:
     
  18. bojendyk

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    That's pretty bad. Not Confederate-Flag-and-photo-of-lynching-noose-in-your-office bad, but pretty bad nonetheless.
     
  19. Eric B

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    I didn't realize they were giving a Nobel Prize for rationalization and moral relativism this year. Where in Oslo will you be staying?
     
  20. IntheNet

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    bojendyk... I know this is an exercise in futility to educate you in reality but the Rebel flag business you are attempting to tar George Allen with just won't stand... I suggest you ask Benjamin J. Lambert III, a black democrat who serves in the Virginia Senate, indeed a 28-year veteran of Virginia electoral politics and former campaign manager for L. Douglas Wilder (D), why he supports George Allen? Ben Lambert endorsed Allen for Senator for the same reason that many Virginians endorse Allen; simply because they can see through the race baiting the Democrats have engaged in... Yet, insofar as the "Confederate" or Rebel flag, you have to understand than many in the state, and the entire South, see that flag in its historical context and that context is not racial. I know that's quite a hurdle for you to make but the heritage of the Confederate effort and this state's involvement can be removed from the racial overtones linked to the rebel flag since the Civil War. Many Virginians fought and died for that flag; a flag that has flown over state capitals ever since. The race baiters today within the Democrat party are attempting to tar Senator George Allen with it; a charge that will not stand...
     
  21. IntheNet

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    Dems in Maryland getting R-E-A-L desperate now... against Republican Michael Steele, Congressman Ben Cardin is using an ad featuring Canadian MJ Fox, Parkisan’s disease shaking and all, urging Marylanders not to vote for Steele! :( How low do they really go in this campaign?

    Sad.
     
  22. Matt in the Hat

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    Fox is an American. He was natuarlized in 2000
     
  23. IntheNet

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    That's not the point Matt... using a Parkisan’s disease victim is! Besides... guess who voted against Stem Cell research? Yup... Congressman Ben Cardin! So the ad is both false and exposes Cardin's hypocrisy, whether MJF is American or Canadian...
     
  24. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

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    Stop lying. From your own link: "Barton, R-Texas, motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill that would require the National Institutes of Health to conduct and support research on the isolation, derivation and production of pluripotent stem cells that do not destroy human embryos."

    He voted against a bill that--ta da!--would constrain the cells available for research.

    There was nothing low-down about the effective Fox ad.
     
  25. IntheNet

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    From The Frederick News Post:
    [Cardin] opposes suggestions that stem cell research is acceptable if the embryo isn’t destroyed." (Liam Farrell, “Pursuing Change,” Frederick News Post, September 2, 2006)

    From Michael Steele's site:
    "Michael Steele said, “There is only one candidate in this race who voted against stem cell research and it’s Congressman Ben Cardin. Ben Cardin had a chance to support stem cell research that would not destroy human embryos, and he voted against it – not because of his beliefs on the issue, but as a transparent political stunt. Both Senators Barbara Mikulski and Paul Sarbanes voted for this legislation. Ben Cardin wanted to politicize the issue instead of getting something done, so he voted against it.


    You're kidding right? Can the GOP in MD use a dead fetus to show what Cardin supports?
     

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