Democrats In The Wilderness

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  1. Boandlkramer

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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    So if someone doesn’t like Boxer, Feinstein or Pelosi, they are Sexist? That’s a pretty low bar.

    And if you’re going to talk about 09-10, the quote, “We [need] to pass the bill in order to find out what [is] in it.” resonates even today.

    We (yes we because I am a registered Focking Democrat) screwed that up.

    Not everything is about gender...find a better angle. You above all of us are better than that.
     
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  2. totti fan

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    anything there about his work with veterans or the stuff he did to earn the moniker Amendment King?
     
  3. Boandlkramer

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    Samma Weltmeister!
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    You’re not going to change his mind...

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  4. totti fan

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    Not sure what you mean by 1).

    2) Nice graph, what are the inputs? Nina Turner is another whatabout I like.

    3) Heard Kamala Harris presided over banking irregularities in California during Great Recession in a senior legal position. Don't know Amy and I know what KG looks like. But if they take corporate money they're automatically disqualified for consideration in my book.
     
  5. Boandlkramer

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    #3

    http://theweek.com/articles/715955/why-leftists-dont-trust-kamala-harris-cory-booker-deval-patrick
     
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  6. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Are you connected to the Internet? If so, perhaps you can link me to his amendments. I'm not your Google Monkey; if you have an argument, actually make it. This goes back to your specificity blah blahs earlier. Stop being lazy.
    This is called the "No True Scotsman" fallacy and is a way to move the goalposts to exclude...ta know I already explained it twice.

    Actually, this is about gender. A lot of Bernie Bros voted for Trump explicitly because they didn't want a female leader. Coming to terms with the demons on our side is critical; ignoring them is what the other side does.
     
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  7. totti fan

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    There are so many opportunities for employment if the will is there:
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  8. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Your stupid, stupid, STUPID comment about how Pelosi's productivity in Congress didn't convert to electoral wins. In fact, most political scientists believe that it was due to her productivity that Democrats lost so badly in 2010. It's called the thermostatic model of politics, if you are indeed posting on BigSoccer you are capable of Googling it (unless you have found a way to post while not having an Internet connection), so I will leave it to you to read up on it. Had Bernie been in charge, very little would have been done, and the Democrats would have performed better.

    I am NOT your Google Monkey. I have given you this information before, I have given you a way to learn about it, it is now on YOU to do the actual learning.

    Again. You. Are. Being. Conned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Turner

    I mean, holy shit, you've got a con artist hiring Trump people.

    DO YOU HAVE A LINK TO SUPPORT THIS POSITION OR ARE YOU UNABLE TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET.
     
  9. Boandlkramer

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    But I did vote for a female, just not THAT female, and others on the downballot.

    You’re reaching. Again, Find another angle.
     
  10. totti fan

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    https://www.alternet.org/election-2...shing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

     
  11. American Brummie

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    Two things:

    1) Who did you vote for? This ain't Twitter. You don't have to restrict your posts to 140 characters.

    2) Just because you might not be sexist does not mean Bernie's support wasn't built in part on sexism. That is an anecdotal fallacy.
     
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  12. totti fan

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    Bo already provided a link.
     
  13. Boandlkramer

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    So your assertion is “sexism”.

    Neat
     
  14. American Brummie

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    You sure you can't remember who you voted for?
     
  16. totti fan

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    what's your basis for the sexism allegation?
     
  17. Boandlkramer

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    Jill...Why does it matter? My conscience is clear. I could have voted for Vermin Supreme, !Hillary took my state anyways
     
  18. totti fan

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    if I had the inclination.
     
  19. Boandlkramer

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    Don’t you get it? You not liking their chosen ones doesn’t compute. It HAS to be sexism.[emoji23][emoji23]

    The funny thing is there’s a post above about how well women have done in the recent primaries....
     
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  20. totti fan

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    Trump's going to win again.
     
  21. totti fan

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    “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me,’” Sanders explained. “No, that’s not good enough. What we need is a woman who has the guts to stand up to Wall Street, to the insurance companies, to the drug companies, to the fossil fuel industry. In other words, one of the struggles that you’re going to be seeing in the Democratic Party is whether we go beyond identity politics.

    Class politics trumps identity politics.
     
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  22. totti fan

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    Are you a Russian agent?
     
  23. Boandlkramer

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    just call me #WokeBear, no relation to FancyBear or CozyBear of Internet Research Agency, St Petersburg
     
  24. American Brummie

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    Did you read the link about sexism in the Bernie Bros camp? Did you read all of my posts about how you're systematically discounting or unwilling to learn about women liberals?

    This is trolling and against the TOS.
     
  25. American Brummie

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    When I talk about how some liberals have become just like the Tea Party,
    @Boandlkramer and @totti fan are ground zero. Let's recap:

    1) They don't know much - if anything - about politics
    2) They have really strong priors about what they want
    3) They are unable to articulate any specifics of what they want
    4) They want leaders who have flashy slogans but are really bad at governing
    5) They seem to be really cozy with Russian-backed American hacks

    So when I say to the rest of you, "don't you see who you look like," re-read through the posts of totti and boandl, and then read through some of bballshawn's old posts, and you tell me how much of a difference there really is.

    When I say we need to be better, it's on the simple stuff. Like, if you have an internet connection, don't write out the words "I don't know who Mazie Hirono is."

    You can Google Mazie Hirono's name in fifteen seconds.

    Be better.
     

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