PBP: Democratic Rules Committee Meeting [R]

Discussion in 'Elections' started by The Gribbler, May 31, 2008.

  1. Riz

    Riz Member+

    Nov 18, 2004
    R-ville, Murrlin
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The smackdown of Ickes just now made the last four hours all worthwhile. :D
     
  2. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    So great to see someone like Donna Brazile, released from the strictures of being a CNN talking head, get to show us why she was picked to be a political pundit in the first place.
     
  3. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    She used to bug me but she's really grown on me recently.
     
  4. dogface

    dogface Let's Just Pretend

    Jun 22, 2002
    St. Peter, MN
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Just a bunch o' nuts:

    Scenes From Today's RBC Hillary Protest

     
  5. Riz

    Riz Member+

    Nov 18, 2004
    R-ville, Murrlin
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Wow.

    Just, wow -

     
  6. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Hilarity [Clinton] ensued.
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    So is this the sense of everyone else:

    1. They reach a deal on Florida. Probably some sort of 50% solution.

    2. They deadlock and punt on Michigan.

    If that's the case then my August 28, 2:00am pick in "The Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign Ghoul Pool" is looking strong.
     
  8. dogface

    dogface Let's Just Pretend

    Jun 22, 2002
    St. Peter, MN
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    There was still good news out of this crazy story:
     
  9. dogface

    dogface Let's Just Pretend

    Jun 22, 2002
    St. Peter, MN
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Even though this primary season has had a tremendous learning curve and it has been one hell of a civics lesson, I kind of felt like today was a nail in the coffin for the Enlightenment. It reveals the limitations of democracy for sure.
     
  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Welcome to the 20th century. ;)
     
  11. dogface

    dogface Let's Just Pretend

    Jun 22, 2002
    St. Peter, MN
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I should have said it was the final nail in the coffin; I could have gone for the postmodern argument, but pomo is so 1980's (with its pastiche, schizophrenia and Fredric Jameson) that it doesn't pander enough to today's kids.

    Oh, and :)
     
  12. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think it is almost impossible for the Democrats to lose in November, but you have to give them credit for trying as hard as they can.

    :D
     
  13. otterulz

    otterulz Member

    Arsenal, Atleti
    South Korea
    Jun 20, 2002
    LIC, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think is the best quote so far:

    "My momma taught me to play by the rules and respect those rules. My mother taught me, and I'm sure your mother taught you, that when you decide to change the rules, middle of the game, end of the game, that is referred to as cheatin.'" -- Donna Brazile
     
  14. dogface

    dogface Let's Just Pretend

    Jun 22, 2002
    St. Peter, MN
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    No kidding.

    And Chris Matthew's comment about how the Democrats always arrive late to the movies is true. I show up early; maybe I should be a Republican?
     
  15. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Exactly. And if the voters of the states of Michigan and Florida want they votes to count, their best recourse is to make their votes count by voting out of office all the clowns who represent them in their state and who voted in favor of breaking the rules.
     
  16. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    They started with the nailing around about 1914. It was less about "democracy" per se, and more about what was proven to remain possible for "Europe". Also, you should not conflate democracy with the Enlightenment (exhibit A, by the way). But that's neither here nor there in this thread ...

    What is on topic is that Chuck Todd's apparently hearing some stuff about punting on Michigan.
     
  17. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It wouldn't be the Reeps in the first place, Jack. They got their shit straight from the beginning.
     
  18. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's quite the fatalist attitude.
     
  19. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Thank you for making my point.
     
  20. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And it was done via debate throught the RNC rules committee. The only reason why it's on TV for the dems is because they royally ********ed up the first time, not because the Democratic party are some great stewards of public confidence and champions of democracy.
     
  21. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm glad they're late coming back. I just got to watch a beautiful shuttle launch.

    It's kind of stunning how routine and workaday the space shuttle has become.
     
  22. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the Clintons are relative newcomers to the game of stealing elections. You have to cut them a little slack for being so sloppy at it.
     
  23. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hail Grimes!
     
  24. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    My point, which you obviously missed, and to which I absolutely admit a bias is that the Reeps would never be this transparent.

    I am not talking specifically about this, it's a general point.

    As I said, firstly a Reep problem like this would never be televised and secondly it would be decided by a back room deal rather than debate. And my biased point again that I was making, was the the Democrats are throwing their processes open to all, in all their sins and glories. They aren't claiming perfection, an inability to admit errors or not brokering dissenting views. They are sunlighting the whole process so when they do arrive at a decision, it will be transparent. And my biased point is that this is not the inclination of the Reeps.
     
  25. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Breaking In: Obama resigns Trinity Church membership.
     

Share This Page