News: DCUnited Off-Season thread.

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  1. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Halsti was a cancer. Wouldn’t - didn’t show up to training camp in shape, constantly injured with the types of injuries that come from lack of training. Slow of foot, not physical — a complete waste of space. Sure, Hamid was good, I could have told anyone that Hamid was the best player on DCU, what does that mean?
     
  2. DCUSA

    DCUSA Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I mean what does that say about himself? Friggin' Jeffrey is better than Halsti. I don't necessarily disagree with his take, but if it's some kind of parting shot, he's only shooting himself.
     
  3. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    You had the snarky comment saying that Halsti’s player evaluation shouldn’t be trusted. Yet he had been quoted saying Hamid was the best player on the team. I don’t understand what point you were trying to make because no matter how you slice it, Halsti was right. Hamid was the best player on the team by a long way. Halsti being a fat bum, or not, doesn’t have anything to do with it.
     
  4. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ummmmmmm?

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    Halsti's bottom is higher then Jeffrey's ceiling.
     
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  5. DCUSA

    DCUSA Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The hell it is, that guy is a statue.
     
  6. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Halsti's bottom couldn't get off the bench because Jeffrey out-hustled it.
     
  7. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    How sad that it’s a debate between two never-weres. Thanks Levien and Thohir!
     
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  8. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    If you bring up Halsti’s name on this board in any context it will get a response. The fact that Hamid was the best player on DCU’s squad is incontrovertible. Anyone can make that observation. When you put those words in Halsti’s mouth, you then bring in the Halsti baggage. It also is incontrovertible that Halsti was a disappointment here. He was injured a great deal of the time, and in his last season reported to camp out of shape and then promptly got injured while trying to get back into shape. When DCU finally parted ways with him, he had the gracelessness to call Olsen clueless. I’m not going to defend Olsen’s abilities, but I found it beyond classless for a mediocre player who had failed to make any impact for DCU to complain his lack of success fell on the coach and not on himself.
     
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  9. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I think the point was, Halsti might have had a hand in getting Bill a look.

    I think we can all agree he didn't cover himself in glory while he was here, and that he left stomping through some sour grapes. Did he have a kid that off season, too? I seem to recall there being a vaguely understandable reason for his unprofessionalism. That doesn't excuse it, of course. He was probably a better player than he gave himself the opportunity to show here, is all. He made some terrible choices, and the team paid for it.
     
  10. NicktheGreek

    NicktheGreek Member+

    Feb 15, 2001
    And Halsti left the talent balance of power unscathed by his departure.
    More to the point the team made some terrible choices and we paid for them
     
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  11. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    I agree.
     
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  12. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That anyone with a straight face could make the claim that Jared Jeffrey is better at soccer than Markus Halsti is hilarious.
     
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  13. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Halsti's probably better at soccer. Hard to say, really. Jeffrey's exposed himself as more of an 8 than a 6, so there's some argument that the skillsets are apples and oranges. And I never did see Halsti play up to his purported potential. But Jeffrey's undoubtedly a more professional soccer player, and they both reaped what they sowed, to our great detriment. :(:D
     
  14. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    I'll take talentless but hard-working over allegedly talented and lazy any ole day.
     
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  15. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    That gives you Ali Curtis and you end up working for Red Bull.
     
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  16. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd split the difference because I believe the above is how DC ended where they are over the last five years.

    james
     
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  17. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need owners with deeper pockets. Asia, with China leading the pack, now has more billionaires than the US. Chinese President Xi is a soccer fan, and has urged wealthy Chinese to buy into soccer clubs. Conclusion: urge Thohir/Levien to sell out to a wealthier Asian at a handsome profit (it's not clear that these newly minted billionaires would bargain too hard if the object was a soccer club in the US capitol). If this doesn't work, try Jeff Bezos. He is now the world's richest person, has a Washington home, and owns the Washington Post. Recently, he asked for suggestions as to how to employ his wealth. I have a suggestion: buy DC United and sign foreign megastars to insane contracts that will ensure a packed Audi Field for the foreseeable future. Oh, and hire a respected International manager to guide these superstars and manage their egos.

    As you may suspect, I am not totally serious - but it could happen. After all, some of the smaller billionaires may not be able to bid for EPL and Spanish/Italian teams, and might be willing to start small.
     
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  18. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Not sure why there is so much frustration over someone being both simultaneously part of the problem and describing the problem completely accurately. Who would better know how screwed up everything was than the guy who, more than once, had the ball taken from his feet in mid jog by a weak opponent with no effort to maintain possession? The effort he put out probably corresponded to the effort he saw put into the organization overall, but he was also not very good. Also Jeffrey is horrible and that’s not a statement of comparison but just a fact I wanted to throw out there.
     
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  19. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correct - Halsti did not perform well, Jeffrey is rubbish.

    Jeffrey is the embodiment of no skill but lots of effort which has a low ceiling and was the basis for our team mentality since 2013.

    Neither are acceptable. Both are on the FO.

    james
     
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  20. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is how you get Ben Olsen longing for "bite" over and over and over again.
     
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  21. DecadeOfDCU26

    DecadeOfDCU26 Member+

    May 2, 2007
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jeffrey actually played himself into the lineup in 2016 ahead of NDL in the middle of the season. Surprising as I think plenty of us thought he might not even be on the team in 2016. His problem this season is that he was playing defensive midfield, while in 2016 he was playing between Acosta and Marcelo, where he looked a lot better.

    He did look worse this year even when playing back in the center centermid role, so maybe he just had a good run of form in 2016.

    Unsure what his contract details are, but at $105k/$115k salary as of September, that's not the worst combo of skill/salary to keep on as a reserve, especially when you play 3 center mids. If he is on the team in 2018, he shouldn't see much time but some of these guys are on every MLS team.
     
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  22. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm certainly not trying to say Jeffrey isn't a serviceable MLSer. He is. But to say he's better at soccer than Halsti is incorrect.
     
  23. Murrdcu

    Murrdcu Member

    DC United
    United States
    Apr 25, 2017
    * logs in to bigsoccer.com*

    * sees a Halsti vs Jeffery debate*

    * logs off of bigsoccer.com*
     
  24. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You forgot

    * Took time to post a response indicating I didn't care that showed I cared enough to post a response

    James
     
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  25. gringolimon

    gringolimon Member

    Club Bolívar
    Bolivia
    Sep 12, 2007
    White Plains, NY
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
     
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