Post-match: DC United vs. Sporting KC

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by roadkit, Mar 4, 2017.

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This match means:

  1. We are Doomed

    4 vote(s)
    20.0%
  2. We win MLS Cup

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  3. Wait, what?

    15 vote(s)
    75.0%
  1. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are undefeated so far this season!

    Let's talk about this match.

    Here's my take:

    Sarvas sucks.

    Hamid's epic save was the difference (TBH: KC had some solid D too).
     
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  2. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Well, that was underwhelming.

    My general take -- without Acosta, DCU is slow of thought through midfield and Mullins will be left stranded. KC, except for Dwyer, can't score in a whorehouse with a handful of Benjamins.

    The individual players:

    Sarvas -- poor, I like @Winoman's "some many hospital balls, so little time" remark.
    DeLeon -- #94 spun him around so many times, I thought he would throw up from vertigo.
    Buescher -- kid, it's your big chance to show you are a competent back-up for Lucho. You blew it.
    Franklin -- you play like you haven't been in the middle for 8 years -- oh yeah, you haven't.
    Kemp -- you kept trying to move up the wing, too bad no one else moved with you.
    Jeffrey -- a half step slow all night
    Nyarko -- a competent performance
    Sam -- ditto
    Mullins -- if you don't get service, you won't score.
    Birnbaum -- looked like a Nat.
    Hamid -- MOTM
    Vincent -- OK, wished you had an opening to shoot
    Ortiz -- good movement, but that weak assed shot when Kemp was screaming for the ball on the wing was USL - level play.
    Neagle -- Lamar, we hardly saw ye.
     
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  3. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Franklin and DeLeon did well, blessedly. Marcelo should sit, but who takes his place? Vincent? Jeffrey (with Harkes partnering with Acosta)?

    KC was pretty relentless. Dwyer is a handful. That screamer of a shot in the second half fortunately was right at Hamid. And why Klinsi dropped Feilhaber is a mystery to me. He's masterful in the midfield.
     
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  4. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    I agree with everyone on Sarvas. Easily the worst player out there. Besides the PK miss, he had about 4 opportunities to face goal with open runners ahead of him and he turned it over each time. As usual he couldn't win the ball cleanly so he was constantly fouling. I'm afraid this is Ben's new Pajoy ... Some other players who I thought were poor : Büscher and Vincent. Our central midfield is way below MLS standards. The fact that SKC has one of the strongest midfields in MLS is why we lost the possession battle. I liked the effort to press, and it almost paid off a couple of times early. But once they figured out what was going on, Feilhaber dropped deeper and they played through our press easily. Something our midfield is incapable of, unfortunately.

    Bright spots? I thought De Leon and Franklin looked great. To get a shutout in game one makes me feel a little less afraid of this experiment. Also good games from Nyarko and Sam ... They looked dangerous every time they got isolated. Despite not playing well, we did create a decent amount of chances.
     
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  5. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A clean sheet against KC is a result of significance.

    And I agree about Feilhaber. Love watching him play.
     
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  6. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Loathe Failhaver. But will take a 0-0.
     
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  7. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Le Toux was available as a sub. I would have pulled Marcelo for Vincent and Le Toux for Buscher. Not sure Sam needed to come out, although in a scoreless match why not have last year's leading scorer on the pitch?
     
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  8. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Same for Harkes, right?

    The sub pattern didn't seem incoherent. . . it coherently seemed to say "I'm playing for the 0-0." In that sense it was also 'successful,' but why would that be the goal?
     
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  9. United fury

    United fury Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feilhaber is sort of like their Felipe. I admire the dude's talent and abilities but man, what a complete *** monkey. Non-stop whining, diving, and hacking. I detest players like that*.

    *Fully aware that our current coach was also that type of player. :whistling:
     
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  10. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    That may all be true, but Benny played for us, so all was forgiven/overlooked.
     
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  11. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #11 tallguy, Mar 5, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2017
    True that. Peter Vermes puts together tough teams that are awful hard to break down. And, we had two chances (the P.K. and a wild goalmouth scramble) and basically that's all a good Vermes team is going let you have. Frankly, you could make a reasonable argument that Vermes should have been chosen to replace Klinsmann as the new USMNT coach. Of course, my sense is that Vermes, like Novak, tends to burn out his players before the playoffs begin.

    I'm glad that Sarvas and Bueschler got long looks because now we know what they have to offer - which apparently isn't much. I suppose that these two guys are going to get at least one more audition before they play themselves out of the lineup for once and all. Jeffrey and Vincent, on the other hand, at least have proven themselves to be a competent journeyman. None of these guys seems to be the second coming of Lewis Neal. But, I don't see how any of these guys are going to keep Durkin and Harkes on the bench past Memorial Day Weekend.
     
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  12. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What will keep Durkin on the bench will be the fact that he is only seventeen years old.
     
  13. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marcelo isn't the only player whose PK was saved and the match ended 0 - 0. Rimando stoned Giovinco and the RLS-Toronto match ended scoreless. (Somehow, this doesn't make me feel any better about last night's result.)
     
  14. Diceson

    Diceson Member

    Dec 21, 1999
    I'm new here, but I think we could have used Danny Alsopp and Jose RE'yes tonight.
     
  15. DCUSA

    DCUSA Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When Acosta comes back, I would love to see Buscher in Jeffrey's spot. Better passer, better dribbler, way better combining. I can see where he probably isn't dangerous enough to play the ten. But I'm convinced he could excel as the 8, though Harkes probably gets it first. Not that that's a bad thing.
    Someday the haters will see what I see and I won't even say I told you so, I'm classy like that.

    I also can't work the damn wink emoji, so take everything I say with a mine's worth of salt.
     
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  16. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome back, John!
     
  17. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    I said pretty much the same thing at the end of last season. Now that Harkes is in the mix, it will be really hard to get minutes.
     
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  18. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We support a team that once started a 14 year old.
     
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  19. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If his age is what's keeping him on the bench, rather than the play of those who are eligible at that position, then we have major problems with our decision-makers.
     
  20. kirchhausen

    kirchhausen Member+

    Apr 17, 2004
    Ashburn, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    allegedly:)
     
  21. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Unfortunately, being 14 was the reason he started. He would have been better served in the long run if he had learned how to play pro soccer instead of being pimped out. I hope he invested wisely.
     
  22. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    He would have been served in the long run if he had learned how to play kids games like 3v3 and 4v4 and 3v1 in a box.
     
  23. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As I recall, Adu was shipped out to Utah because he was uncoachable. He probably could have had a decent MLS career if he had been capable of keeping his ego in check.
     
  24. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Probably so. Everyone in the world, including Adu himself, was caught up in his dribbling skill. His real asset as a pro, though was as a passer. On the dribble, he had the problem that he could beat a guy, but he didn't have breakaway speed so unless he promptly got rid of the ball, the guy he just beat could get back on him.

    Being that he didn't cover a lot of ground, couldn't really tackle, wasn't always 90 minutes fit, etc, all the little things that less naturally talented players do to separate themselves from the pack, he was always going to have to really focus in on how to use what he did have to consistently deliver end product. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes invisible wasn't going to cut it.

    I have, however, thought that if soccer was the type of game where you got 5 or 6 subs, Freddy might have had a good career at a pretty high level as instant offense off the bench.
     
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  25. United fury

    United fury Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bingo. I'll always remember the home opener in 2006. Freddy matched up against Marvell Wynne. He'd do all sorts of fancy dribbling and cool looking things, but Wynne would simply manhandle him off the ball and strip him of it every time. He always held the ball for too long.
     

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