David Wagner (manager) at BSC Young Boys

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  1. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
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  3. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    he needs reinforcements this Summer and decent ones at the min. Otherwise we could look at a team that will barely survive if at all every season.
     
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  4. The Irish Rover

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    Aug 1, 2010
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    Not least because, of the promoted teams (Wolves, Cardiff and Fulham), two are very well-resourced and have players and coaches who are way beyond Championship level. They achieved wonders this season, but they need at least three unquestionably EPL-level signings and another three EPL-level rotators.

    Gonna be tough all season
     
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  5. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    I think that will be their biggest worries, these 3 that got promotions already seem like better teams that West Brom, Stoke and Swansea. And Huddersfield barely managed to survive their 1st season vs those teams.
     
  6. The Irish Rover

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    Yep. Cardiff will be no mugs and Warnock is somewhat underrated as a coach, but the owner isn't going to splash the cash like the other two, so 'Udders should be able to stay ahead of them, but where the other two worse teams than them are going to come from is the question.

    Southampton are a club that have lost their way over the last two seasons and not many people think Hughes is the solution, while West Ham's recruitment of Pellegrini will just be papering over the cracks unless the entire recruitment and coaching setup changes and the owners get a brain (a personality transplant is probably too much to ask for).

    After that, Bournemouth, Leicester, Watford, Brighton and Palace are the most likely to supply the sudden implosion candidate, with Leicester being my pick of the particular bunch, but the one to watch is Newcastle. They're a Championship club with a Champions' League manager, and if Rafa walks because the owner won't give him decent transfer funds, the wheels could come off very quickly and very dramatically there.
     
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  7. The Irish Rover

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    Aug 1, 2010
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    Per the Guardian, he'll be on 2.5 million sterling a year, making him the highest-paid coach outside of the Big 6.

    Apparently West Ham, Leicester and Everton were expressing interest in him but were rebuffed.
     
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  8. dougtee

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    wow coaching inflation has not really hit the prem
     
  9. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    got his 1st win of the season today in a 1-0 win and now are very close to getting out of the relegation zone. They are only in the relegation zone because of an inferior GD.

    what's helping him is how poor the promoted Championship teams like Fulham and Cardiff have been.
     
  10. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    almost 2 months later and relegation seems to be their future. Constantly losing games vs other bottom teams is usually a death sentence for relegation.
     
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  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I wanna believe they won't go without a fight.
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

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    I mean, sure, but today was the first time a striker has scored for them all season, so everything's looking great now!

    jk they'll be lucky to crack 20 points.
     
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  13. The Irish Rover

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    They won't, but fight only goes so far if there's no quality in midfield or up top. This team hasn't got any up top and, with Aaron Moy on his way to the Asian Cup, hasn't got any in midfield either.

    During their 2016-17 promotion season they were estimated to have the 15th-highest wage bill in a 22-team D2 and ten of that team are still in the (24-man) squad, with another two having retired. Getting promoted was a miracle, and so was staying up, but the squad is still way below what is needed so they're going to have to open the chequebook this window or go down.

    The problem is that the owner isn't a foreign oligarch with a fortune of dubious origins and even more questionable character; he's a local-boy-made-good whose 300 million Sterling net worth is an eye-watering sum to the likes of us, but can easily be cut by 30-40% by the cost of two strikers and midfielders (transfer fees, agents fees, wages, signing-on fees, etc).
     
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  14. Skevin

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    They are a midtable championship side that somehow made it to the premier league. Unfortunately, Huddersfield is not a big enough club who can spend the amount it takes to stay in the premier league.

    Wagner has performed a miracle to get them promoted then keep them in the league, but they have the worst 2018 result out of all 4 english leagues. Their time has come.
     
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  15. bshredder

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    I remain curious as to what Wagner could do for a club with stronger financial resources.
     
  16. randomnoise

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    I think we are likely to find out next season...
     
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  17. wrench

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    Why is this guy in the academy section? He is first team and top flight.
     
  18. TheFalseNine

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    All coaches and administrative personnel are currently in the Academy subforum.
     
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  19. ArsenalMetro

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    *not a slight against you*

    That's dumb and counterintuitive. Assistants (like Marsch), sure. Head coaches? Doesn't make sense.
     
  20. KicksNgiggles

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    In the words of Bruno Mars... "players only!"
     
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  22. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    here's the official announcement.
     
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  23. Midas Mulligan

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    Jul 24, 2013
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    Looking at the replies to the club's tweet, I've never seen such nearly unanimous sentiment that this is really bad news. You have to think that Wagner ultimately was the decider.

    I suspect he'll be back in the game quite soon with another top flight team in the PL or Bundesliga.

     
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  24. The Irish Rover

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    It would seem so, and from this report it has been on the cards for a while and the Chairman seems to still hold him in very high regard. That's not exactly the usual reaction when your coach quits.

    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...er-leaves-huddersfield-manager-mutual-consent

    My guess is that they realize that they can't defy gravity and the struggle was taking its toll of Wagner. They owe it to him to let him go and get some rest in case a great opportunity comes along and not make him suffer the stress and indignity of presiding over a relegation.
     
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  25. eliwood

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    Jul 25, 2016
    Wow those are some really sad reactions and responses :(
     

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