Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 27, 2018.

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  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Can we recall Volland to Germany?
     
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  2. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Strong , physical, can play back-to-goal, hold-up play

    Adequate finisher but I think he does many dirty work

    Try him n Selke, maybe a chance for Weydandt too, he is dominant in certain area of the game
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    outside of the lack of height (1.79m) as in him not really being a header striker. He's pretty much what you want in someone uptop. He can also play sole striker too. And he combines well with players like Havertz/Brandt who are also NT players, chemistry.

    thing about Volland is that he's been getting better by the season.

    Weydandt is too green and we don't know where he'll end up in Summer. I think Selke is more likely than him.
     
  4. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I cannot believe you actually bought into our lolcow Weydandt being a viable option loooool
     
  5. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Volland presses very well too
     
  6. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Doesn’t matter where he’ll play next season

    Bringing in now still help his stock. Italy brought in Pellegri and Kean; England brought in Mason Mount

    All matters if a player can offers something u want in the position.

    Can try more options. Come on, we got nothing to lose, just trying won’t be a bad thing

    We are in rebuild mode.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol of course it matters, so we should call in more 2BL players besides Hector who was bad for Germany everytime he played this season. While the 1BL options actually did perform. Hector is an exception as he made NT before relegation to 2BL.

    no, Germany has standards if other countries don't that's their problem. No point in calling players who might not pan out or ones playing their 1st season in 1BL, where's the consistency?

    calling up youngsters too early could also put even more pressure on them than their already is and will make too many players want senior NT call ups because others got them.

    nothing wrong with the way things are. We had stupid things like OBM"s agent wanting Germany U21 to call up a U19 League player. When U21 outside of GKs=1BL or 2BL level not youth level. That's the type, if it were done would just put the whole system out of whack.
     
  8. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well I think for the striker department, we can afford to try more

    Even Serra, why not. It’s not like there are many strikers emerging worldwide anyway. Especially 23 or under Jovic, Maxi Gomez, Joelinton,Timo Werner, Rashford... basically it

    We can help their stocks. If things pan out, they will get invited by better teams.

    I think for strikers we can try more options and set slightly lower barrier. U see strikers like Kruse, Gomez, Stindl, Petersen are still serviceable even at 30 or above.

    So why not setting lower barriers for younger strikers for trial?

    If Weydandt or Serra get called, maybe they will get attention from bigger teams, help their stock
     
  9. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I would bring in Selke, Volland, Weydandt and see how things go.

    Just a sense of what they can offer. Can be good, can be bad. But at least we have to see we are trying

    We can be more open n take more risks for trial.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Serra's doing very well given his age in 2BL and with him likely playing a role in Germany u21 in Summer. Where's the need for the senior NT to advertise for him? He'll attract interest without it.

    there are more strikers than that who are 23 and under and more who are emerging too.

    if your older strikers are still servicable than why bother with the very young ones?
     
  11. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Because we are in rebuilding mode, n we don’t have many options. We should look slightly further.

    Let’s be honest, Stindl n Petersen aren’t the future and I doubt they are that much better than the younger ones nowadays

    I still remember the days when we were being rebuilt, we had Podolski who played only one season in 1BL then another season in 2BL

    Fathi, Wollscheid, Tobias Weis, Commper, Jung, Oliver Sorg, Reinartz, Manuel Friedrich, Knoche, Christian Günter ... were tried at a time.

    Not exactly everyone pan out but at least we saw that Loew was active n was more opened towards not 100% proven players.

    We need more trials, more options. I hate the idea of automatic nominations like Draxler, Mueller and To some extend Timo Werner

    We see Loew was waiting too long until he brings in someone for experiments now. He brought in Uth when he passed his best form.

    It’s a time when Loew should be more willing to take risks , but he doesn’t. He doesn’t need players who are 100% proven, u see a need in that position n u see the potential or what the player can offer then u bring him in

    Sometimes, it’s about if a player works n clicks for the NT. maybe he isn’t the most skilled or efficient at club level, but he offers exactly what type NT needs.

    All matters is if a player can play well for the NT. everything else is trivial

    I would bring in Mittelstadt, Weiser, Da Costa, Rani Khedira, Selke, Volland, Weydandt, Philipp Max, Demirbay (fantastic player) and see what they can offer

    We know exactly what type of players Draxler, Hector,Werner and Muller are already. So we can do a bit more experiments
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    and you think that bum Low who's under huge pressure given 2018 was one of the worst years ever for Germany will experiment with unproven players, lol.
     
  13. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Actually he was very brave in terms of selecting young talents Before

    Just that the team is pretty saturated now. I would take out Muller, Draxler, Hector, Rudy, Timo Werner(yes) sometimes and see how things are different without them

    Then we can plug in some new players like Mittelstadt, Selke, Volland, Demirbay n Demme and see if things work
     
  14. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think we are at a stage where we need to rebuild

    We need new blood and experiements

    Now there are so many “godsons” from Loew in the team. He has been around for too long, too much love on certain players

    Even if he brings in Weydandt, Serra and Arp I wouldn’t complain. He can raise their stocks too

    What matters most is if these future prospects can offer the team what they need in future f
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Volland, Demirbay and Demme are not new players, they are recalls. And if Low is for now interested in Schulz and Halstenberg (recall), don't see why he would call up Mittelstadt.

    this is Mittelstadt's 4th season as a pro but his 1st one with tons of playing time. Even more so since this season is Plattenhardt's downfall season.
     
  16. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #3316 Karl-Heinz Riedle, Feb 24, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2019
    If I remember correctly, Podolski n Schweinsteiger were just rookie in the league when they get called. Played like 15-20 games ahead of their call ups

    Goretzka too, only played one season in Schalke.


    Fathi, Wollscheid, Tobias Weis, Commper, Jung, Oliver Sorg, Reinartz, Manuel Friedrich, Knoche, ChristianGünter ... were tried at a time. Played like half a season of average football

    My point is, what matters most is

    1) do the team have a need (DM, RB, CF)

    2) does a player have the missing attributes and what he can offer in the future

    Then bring them in for trial, we can’t be any worse anyway. What do we have to lose now? Seriously


    If one can perform well for the NT, it matters most. And if that’s an area where the NT need addition we should take more risks n open to new players

    Maybe he isn’t the best player in the league but he’s a missing puzzle in NT. why so conversation?

    We are rebuilding, should bring in as many players as possible

    Da Costa and Weiser
    Mittelstadt and Max And Halstenberg
    Demme and Rani Khedira
    Demirbay
    Selke and Weydandt and Volland

    Can try all and see if they click. What can they offer.

    I m always looking for experiments at this stage. And we should set lower barriers for newcomers now.

    All we need is just one solution. Weydandt might be playing in 2BL next season but so what? If he’s in for trials this season n he can play very well with the Nt , that matters most.

    If he keeps scoring hattricrks for NTs, does it matter where he plays ? No. That’s an extreme scenario

    My point is , u just need one solution. Finding the missing puzzle. And we are rebuilding so I don’t see the hestitation

    Try as many players as possible.

    Weydandt can play in Singaporean league next season, but if he keeps performing n scoring for Nt, it doesn’t matter. Imagine he can score hat tricks after hat tricks for the NT even if he plays in China or something . It doesn’t matter where he plays
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Podolski and Basti came around the dark times of German NT. You think this is dark times 2.0?
     
  18. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes
     
  19. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I m all for setting lower barriers for new players

    U dont have to wait 2-3 seasons later to react if u see certain need or potential

    England, Spain n Italy all have similar approach nowadays.
     
  20. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I m also interested in bringing in a player like Weydandt

    They need some hope from Grassroots football. Can be an encouragement to the amateurs
     
  21. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Yannick Gerhardt has been a steady presence in Wolfsburg's rise this season, I'd give him a call up
     
  22. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Which position?
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he's been playing CM/midfield these days. Used to be a LB. Main LB is Roussillon, it's good that Gerhardt doesn't play LB anymore, as it moved Gian-Luca Itter to back LB. Itter is someone I hope becomes main LB soon enough. He impressed everytime he played LB last season and this one.

    reminds me of how Jonas Hofmann used to be an attacking player but was made CM this season. Shame he got some injury issues this season. But he's one I'm curious to see how he would do for Germany.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  25. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria

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