Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    between Leno and Trapp, I would take Trapp.

    Trapp doesn't make blunders like Leno does.
     
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  2. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    To be honest neither are top drawer like nuer or de stagen, who are the alternatives after nuer and de stagen
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm not high on either and neither is world class but Low is fixated on both of them for 3rd GK and if I had to choose I would go for Trapp over Leno.

    my only issue with Trapp was that he was a bench GK before his Frankfurt move. Although him at Frankfurt is only a loan, so who knows what he does come Summer time.
     
  4. dips82

    dips82 Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Trapp concedes through first post
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it's nowhere near as bad as Leno\s numerous blunders whether club or NT.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Frankfurt's Fredi Bobic pushing that da Costa should get NT call up.
     
  7. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Possibly, if kimmich is gonna continue to play right back at bayernthen there's no logic playing him cm for national side and I can't see da costa dislodging kimmich at right wing back?
     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    even if Kimmich is 1st choice at RB/RWB, we still need a back up. Kehrer/Ginter aren't the answers and mostly play cbs at their clubs.

    it's why Low mentioned Klostermann and why people bring up da Costa and even Weiser. Imagine Kimmich gets injured and misses the Euros who's the replacement/back up? That is always the danger of only having 1 main player for one position.

    for LB, Low likes Hector (should be in 1BL next season) and Schulz. He also confirmed towards the end of the year that Halstenberg will get another chance he played well vs England in the friendly but injury for too long made his be left out. So that's 3 LB options.

    Mittelstadt and Henrichs (can also play RB) are 2 younger LB options for the future. And there is also Max for older players too.
     
  9. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I really like Schulz, completely nullified sterling against city, which isn't easy to do, left wing back birth looks to be his to lose
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah he was good vs City, I think Hector shouldn't picked anymore. Would rather we focus on Schulz, Halstenberg, Max and even the 2 youngsters. If Itter, Vagnoman, Katterbach, Netz etc.can breakthrough in the years to come, we'll be stacked in LB options.

    Hector doesn't even always play LB, he's between LB-DM. While the youngster 97-Horn mostly plays LB/Wingback.
     
  11. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Things are not as bleak as we all seem to suggest, there's alot of talent that needs nurturing, and it's certainly not as bad as the period of the turn of the millennium
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    even strikers there are a lot of promising ones but chances/patience and time is needed. Maybe in 2-4 years we'll have even more options.

    I do think RB looks somewhat iffy and then GK post Neuer. Sure there is ter Stegen but the others are at best good GK, nothing world class. And the promising young GK prospects seem years and years away from breakingthrough as that's one position where even guys in their mid-30s still play. And there aren't a lot of rotations and teams don't sub in GK unless injuries.
     
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Diego Demme had a good game vs Bayern today.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  15. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Germany seems to struggle vs countries like Serbia/Croatia although it's a good test for the players.
     
  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Data shows neuer needs to be dumped

    It won't happen of course
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  19. Dage

    Dage Member+

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Löw said Neuer will stay captain and goaly until end of EC'20 no matter what. It's a slap in the face of MatS, even worse than Köpke/Kahn or Kahn/Lehmann.

    Why do veterans need a comfort zone to begin with? This thinking is nonsense and has ruined dozens of great players and teams.
     
  20. White/Blue_since1860

    White/Blue_since1860 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    But you also have to explain to our foreign die Mannschaft fans why that is the case. Why does Löw have to field Neuer?

    Reason being: He plays for Bayern. If the guy loses the NT starting position then he will lose market value and Bayern will lose prestige("the NT keeper has to play for Bayern). If Neuer gets sent to the bench then Bayern will use their media friends(Bild) to put even more pressure on Löw (who already is on probation) without even having played a single qualifier. Everyone who witnessed the shit storms weeks leading up to 2006 know about this. Especially Löw.
     
  21. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    And people wonder why I dislike Bayern so much.
     
  22. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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    Four players I think Loew should consider:

    CB: Torunarigha (maybe take Tah out)

    RB: Danny Da Costa

    DM: Rani Khedira

    CM: Kerem Demirbay
     
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  23. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Based on performance n potential , I think this should be our 23-men squad

    GK) Ter Stegen, Schwolow, Neuer

    RB) Da Costa, Kimmich
    CB) Ginter, Sule, Rudiger, Kehrer, Torunarigha
    LB) Nico Schulz, Max

    CM) Kroos, Goretzka, Demirbay, Emre Can, Rani Khedira

    Forwards) Leroy Sane, Gnabry, Timo Werner, Reus, Havertz, Ginczek
     
  24. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is why one shouldn't take Bild too seriously ;)
     

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