Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    N I find it really amusing when someone like u

    Who said I don’t wanna see positional change .

    If Kimmich didn’t change his position, he would’ve never played RB anyway. N u want him at RB

    So why did someone make him a Rb? Traits n qualities...

    Same goes to Henry, Firmino, Suarez, Aubameyang, Lacazette, Alex Meier, Stindl n co.

    Havertz will have a similar path.

    Never say never, don’t rule things out too early
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #3202 Ger90, Dec 14, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2018
    lmao, how you still argue and make up shit even with that post shows that you got mental issues.

    consideration doesn't mean it'll happen and where in my post did I say he can never ever be one.

    do you even read posts? I said if it happens it happens and if it does we'll judge him when he plays. And then I get stupid response like how do you know Low isn't considering him. That posts already acknowledges that he could become one, lol.

    all I see from your responses is that you don't even read my posts to begin with and just posts the same shitr over and over.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm sure anyone who reads this thread, their reactions will be get a life you two arguing about shit that bores everyone and the same discussion every freaking day.

    mod, change the title to
    "Das Reboot and the road to Havertz as CF to lead Germany to the EC2020."
     
  4. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If u are smart like Guardiola, u won’t judge players on where he plays now. But judge on traits n qualities

    Kimmich didn’t play RB back then, Guardiola made him play there. Why? Kimmich was always developed as a DM throughout his career till 21 when he was used elsewhere

    It’s not about where Havertz plays now, but the traits n all-round qualities he brings

    Too complicated for u to understand maybe

    If Nothing changes, Firmino would always be an AM too, Suarez would never play at Cf... Alex Meier would never win topscorer award, neither would Aubameyang n Lewandowski, both transformed from other positions to striker

    It’s not about where he plays now. Depay was always a winger but it turns out that he plays better at CF later.

    Havertz has the potential to be an all-round CF, he hasn’t been used there now doesn’t mean he shouldn’t n he won’t

    Believe it or not, when I first watched Suarez in his Ajax days, he was a right winger, I said he would make a good striker to some journalists. They didn’t believe and see how it turns out ?

    Alex Meier another player when he used to play AM for HSV, later moved to Eintracht, I said he’s better at CF than at AM. He has some skills of an midfielder but physique of a proper striker. And later he did have massive success at that position

    And without that transformation, Alex Meier would’ve never had that 14-15 Season

    It’s all about judgement on players’ qualities n potential . Instead of being shallow enough to see where he plays now n make a conclusion
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    congrats and good for you and tell it to someone that cares. Didn't bother to read your post as it's easy to hazard what your going to say and it's a waste of time.

    so are you done? Go and continue your Havertz should be a striker everywhere on twitter. Gotta get the message to as many people as possible.
     
  6. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And again, u can advocate for Petersen, Werner, Volland n co. Just because they play as striker for their clubs

    Or even Hennings, Schieber or Niederlechner... lol

    But imo all these strikers aren’t the strikers who can help German NT ... at all.

    Werner scored 99% of his goals off counter n guess what, do u Think opponents in major tournaments will allow us to play counter? He has very limited skillset, almost no aerial threat n very inconsistent finishing n poor composure. And looking at his stats, he is actually trending down ...
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so all German strikers are rubbish.

    are you finally done with your non stop arguing for Havertz as CF?
     
  8. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Suarez n Alex Meier examples are only a few. N I even said Van Persie would be a better striker than at Wing

    But of coz there are players who ruined by bad coaching.

    Pogba should’ve never developed as a box-to-box midfielder, which I think is wasteful

    Kroos was a much better 10 than he is at “8”. But formaitonal changes made it inevitable for him with that transformation.

    Again u don’t judge players on where he plays now. There are many factors: team setup n coach’s decision (Pogba’s case it’s all up to Mourinho for example)

    It’s the traits n qualities of a player where u think he should be developed further.
     
  9. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There was a bad training method, many elements n qualities are overlooked

    That’s why Germany don’t produce proper strikers anymore

    Werner is just fast; Petersen is tall but no technique n hold-up play, not winning duels too; Uth’s aerial duels stats are similar to Werner’s n also too skinny to win duels up top n do hold-up;
    Volland is not a good finisher

    Selke is not even playing regularly in Hertha, 34 year old Ibisevic is ahead of him for a reason

    What’s the downside if Havertz doesn’t pan out at striker? Maybe ... none
     
  10. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If striker position is set, I couldn’t have imagined a better young lineup than this:

    —————-—Ter Stegen
    ———-Ginter——Sule—-Rudiger
    —Da Costa-Kimmich-Neuhaus—Schulz
    ——-Gnabry—-Havertz——-Sane

    Then we have Emre Can, Kehrer, Torunarigha, Max, Eggestein, Brandt, Hofmann as backups ...

    Always like back 3 in major tournaments. We are vulnerable to counters so back 3 can be a potential solution
     
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  11. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    A line up we should use for the euro qualifiers
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    looks like Kimmich is on RB. Recall it was said that one reason for Kimmich at DM was because Thiago was injured. But if you have him in XI than Kimmich goes back to RB.
     
  13. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Kimmich’s playing RB now for Bayern, yes
    Scored a beautiful goal
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I do think it's funny that Kovac supposedly trashed Kimmich just recently for being a DM that tries to attack too much that he needs to restrain himself. Goes back to RB and scores.
     
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  15. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I think it's a blessing that he's playing at right back again at bayern, he's competent as a dm but ivthimk we have better options sitting outside to play in that role for germany
     
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  16. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    + 2 assists!
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kimmich at RB already at 1 goal and 2 assists.

    its another reason I prefer Kimmich at RB, he combines well with others, can dribble and has pin point crosses. Contributes a ton to the attack. As DM his providing come from corner.
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  19. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
    Meanwhile Sandro Wagner gets 20 minutes for Bayern - 10 minutes in you’d think he’s just ran a marathon :whistling:
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    surprised he hasn't walked away from Bayern like he did Germany.:whistling:

    it was a stupid move on his part to go to Bayern, was doing so well at Hoff.
     
  21. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I mean, he basically went to Bayern just for the status of being a Bayern player lol, thinking it would benefit him for a WC roaster place because he player for Bayern lmao
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    self proclaimed best German striker.:ROFLMAO:

    Wagner's an idiot, the way it works is any player that is a regular at Bayern whether usual XI or rotational that plays a ton is likely in for the NT. Not guy who sits on the bench all the time and most of his goals last season for Bayern were either headers or just tap ins.
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    @saj7866 you still don't want to see Reus being part of the NT even with his great form this season?
     
  24. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Opinions are based at that very time at that very situation, you are absolutely right, since then reus been inspirational and world class, therefore the current form rues warrants a definite selection in the national set up and possibly line up
     
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  25. saj7866

    saj7866 Member

    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Leno has had a shocker for arsenal
     

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