Das Reboot and the Road to UEFA Nations League & EC2020

And interesting enough, u guys are so against playing Havertz up top

Stindl was also an AM, but Havertz is a much better overall all-rounder

N I don’t get the point of “having vision n good build -up /hold-up play is a waste to play striker”

What makes u think modern strikers don’t need to be good at technique and creativity? That’s what a modern all-round striker required to have

Havertz has no defence and this was against a weak Russian side playing with their 2nd team, so his problems at “8” wasn’t exposed.

We have some very good CMs: Loew is playing Kimmich there and he’s doing a good job, then I like Emre Can’s package, then u have Goretzka, Gundogan, Kroos, young breakouts such as Neuhaus And Maxi Eggestein who I rate fairly high.

We have way too many options at “8”, why do we have to play Havertz there in that 343 formation is beyond me.

Havertz is extremely well rounded, he should be the one who fill that striker spot ... a position where we have no options: Stindl is not for future, Petersen/Fullkrug is not NT starting calibre and Selke isn’t even starting in Hertha Berlin.

 

Gnabry was our false 9 against France n Russia.

And he plays at the Wing for Bayern

Just saying

 

If your concept is “a striker should be stationing inside the penalty box” , of coz it’s a waste of Havertz talent

But it’s a wrong concept of modern striker, really

Strikers are required to press, to win duels, to make recoveries, to track back for build up play, to contribute in hold-up play n passing

No modern striker is stationing just inside the penalty box. Not even Kane, Lukaku, Giroud n Mandzukic(my favourite striker) who tracks back n press a lot

Mandzukic actually was used as a LW quite frequently in Juventus. But that’s not the point

If striker is required to contribute in build up game , to create n are all required to press n defend....as well as winning duels, having the composure, vision n ability to play in tight space ...

I don’t think u can find a better candidate than Havertz up top in the entire Germany

Please don’t mention Petersen and Fullkrug for now

 

Kimmich as “6” , then Kroos n Havertz at “8”

Not enough defence in midfield and is extremely vulnerable against teams that play quick counters

343 is a formation to cover up our midfield issue, because one of the cBs can move up and help our the midfielders. Then the two wingbacks will track back and become a back-4

And if u have Kroos in the midfield, u need a lot of covering for him.

I think 343 should be the primary formation for now

Havertz playing deep is a waste of his talent in final third

 

Thierry Henry, Aubameyang, Van Persie, Lacazette, Suarez we’re wingers/SS before converted into strikers

People would say “hey they are so fast and technical, they should be used as wingers”

Then u have Firmino, Gabriel Jesus, Lars Stindl, Max Kruse, Lewandowski (was a SS/AM) n Alex Meier (started playing CF at 29?) who used to play AM.

“They all play AM so what makes u think they can be strikers ?”

Sometimes u guys just need to think outside the box for a bit.

1) if u have an all-round talent like Havertz who is a complete package,play him at CF first. Because It’s the most difficult position to fill

N it is a lot easier to find a CM than a striker in modern football nowadays

2) It’s not about someone position, it’s abot the all round attributes Havertz can provide

Strikers do not limit themselves in playing just inside the box. If they are required to press, to drop deep n build up, to create and to win duels n to score....u don’t find a better package than Havertz up top in the entire Germany

Not Petersen, not Wagner, not Fullkrug, not Uth, not Volland... these can’t start for German Nt

 

It’s a log jam at midfield and the idea of playing our most well-rounded talent in that log jam is so stupid

We have so many midfielders who breakout this season, and we have NO all round striker

People are saying Havertz is good at pressing n vision means he can only play Midfield is so misleading

No striker limit themselves just inside the box nowadays. For goodness sake,

See Mandzukic n Kane, ther are all required to track back n contribute in build up. So why is vision n hold-up play not required for strikers?

All teams have to press in sort sort of degree. Strikers need to contribute in defence as well. So why do u think a player who presses well, should only play midfield is beyond me

People think like 90s, have zero tactical sense of modern football

 

Germany are relegated from #NationsLeague Group A after the Netherlands beat France 2-0 to stay in the top group! 😱 #NEDFRA pic.twitter.com/6I3SbT4Cug

— DW Sports (@dw_sports) November 16, 2018

 

What relegation means for Germany

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...-was-der-abstieg-fuers-dfb-team-bedeutet.html

 

Draxler won't be travelling to join the NT for the Holland match either. While Kroos does join, Reus and Hector are also able to train again.

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...-nicht-nach---hector-und-reus-trainieren.html

Jogi gave the team an 8 minute speech on the pitch during training today

Bierhoff is frustrated and annoyed by the turn of events and getting relegated. But wants to start from scratch again and utilize the Holland match as a point to get ready for a better Euros qualification.

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...prache---bierhoff-frustriert-und-genervt.html

 

Just wondering , what u guys think of Goretzka and Gnabry in Bayern this season?

I think Gnabry is adapting but still manage to show some promises as a right winger. Needs to be more consistent. But I guess he can only be better

Goretzka is a weird one. He has a little bit of everything but I think he is better off the ball than with the ball. Showed his aerial ability many times but he isn’t very good at taking the ball from midfield to final third. Sometimes u want ur “8” to dribble a bit and move your opponents in order to space. He isn’t very good at it, and that’s something Dahoud and Emre Can (!) are actually good at

Goretzka to me is more of a shadow striker type who gets in the box n cause danger. Not a typical “8” who creates, but Goretzka is fairly good at using space instead of creating it

 

Yes more of a poormans ballack

 

About time as well

 

Because Mats Hummels is 100% the reason why Germany or Bayern hasn’t worked right? Lol

 

So guys, how do you feel about the new Dutch team, and how do you like your chances on monday??

 

It should be a good game. I thought Ze Germans were fairly equal to us last game, but it was our speedy counter-attacks that made the difference.

I'm going to place a bet on monday's game, and I think a hard-fought draw is the smart choice