Yeah, fair comments. Like I say, I think it is the max placing as per Big Soccer voters (considering you two recent voters voted them as high as anyone, although I think krokko either put Messi first or near the top and his vote isn't included in the 2013-present collection). But the current overall standings are the low estimate for the reasons you give. On the other hand, make every voter in your poll watch 10 great performances (or a few less) of Cruyff, Pele etc etc and does that poll change substantially too with many more giving them the vote as best player ever? Among some maybe there would have been a default assumption players like that were the best ever, but that probably doesn't apply to the voters in your poll. Maybe I'd be wrong to think they hadn't seen much of them playing or didn't even know much about them though - it could be that many do still think Messi is now the GOAT and likewise plenty think the same thing about C.Ronaldo (or it could be loads of their fanboys had a vote-off - really hard to say fairly).