Daily Mail Top 50 players ever

It's his second goal on this one:

I think it has some similarities with his attempt vs Uruguay without being a replica. The ball is within playing distance for a shot or to take a touch, and he lets it carry on past the goalkeepers dive while adjusting his body to follow it (so sort of a dummy I think anyway).

 

Wow, another vote! I'll get the standings updated some time this week and we can then see how your vote affects things.

 

Well, a few people have changed their vote more than once and quite a lot of votes have come in over the last few years. Anyone that has previously voted can always change their list even if they voted in 2009. I probably won't start another one at the moment to be honest, as a lot of people that voted a while ago might not make a new vote or even be around to do so. I did ask comme for example to add the newer players into his list not very long ago.

I think there is a different demographic on here compared to the people voting on the page you listed before. I do know that those that voted on a career basis and also those that vote more on a peak form basis (but convinced more the more the players show) might raise some of the recent players (although really it is probably just the ones you mention and all were at least starring in 2009 including in that years Champions League - like I say I realise they could rise or appear in some top 50's as compared to then though). There are plenty of new and adjusted votes in recent times that don't have them so much further up than their place in the standings though (not further up at all in some).

I do think the feasible voting period is maybe coming to an end now, but of course I'll gladly add your vote. I don't think there are enough/any new candidates to make starting a new vote really appealing at this stage though, to me anyway. But no problem that you suggested it of course.

 

Here are the standings after your vote (I also started tallying top 30 votes so can adjust the standings for that method too later, but the original method was top 50's only of course, just as you've done)....


1 Pele 1471
2 Diego Maradona 1432
3 Johan Cruyff 1417
4 Alfredo Di Stefano 1360
5 Franz Beckenbauer 1355
6 Ferenc Puskas 1305
7 Michel Platini 1265
8 Garrincha 1199
9 Ronaldo 1136
10 Zinedine Zidane 1113
11 Eusebio 1101
12 Zico 1098
13 Gerd Muller 1030
14 George Best 1015
15 Bobby Charlton 977
16 Marco van Basten 941
17 Lothar Matthaus 814
18 Paolo Maldini 778
19 Lev Yashin 754
20 Romario 718
21 Lionel Messi 693
22 Franco Baresi 658
23 Ruud Gullit 624
24 Roberto Baggio 611
25 Didi 563
26 Bobby Moore 554
27 Guissepe Meazza 487
28 Rivelino 480
29 Stanley Matthews 468
30 Ronaldinho 465
31 Jose Manuel Moreno 377
32 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 355
32 Zizinho 339
34 Gianni Rivera 327
35 Dino Zoff 301
36 Raymond Kopa 297
37 Thierry Henry 257
38 Cristiano Ronaldo 250
39 Leonidas 239
40 Daniel Passarella 206
41= Matthias Sindelar 204
41= Paolo Rossi 204
43 Fritz Walter 200
44 Rivaldo 197
45 Sandor Kocsis 195
46 Michael Laudrup 193
47 Mario Kempes 162
48= Juan Schiaffino 156
48= Ladislao Kubala 156
50 Dennis Bergkamp 147
51 George Weah 140
52 Luis Figo 136
53 Falcao 134
54 Luis Suarez Miramontes 133
55 Johan Neeskens 130
56 Gianluigi Buffon 129
57 Roberto Carlos 123
58 Josef Bican 122
59 Giacinto Facchetti 121
60= Gabriel Batistuta 118
60= Carlos Alberto 118
62 Peter Schmeichel 115
63 Teofilo Cubillas 108
64 Socrates 105
65 Omar Sivori 102
66= Gordon Banks 101
66= Gyorgy Sarosi 101
68 Sandro Mazzola 99
69 Nilton Santos 98
70 Adolfo Pedernera 97
71= Gunnar Nordahl 95
71= Frank Rijkaard 95
73 Just Fontaine 92
74 Kenny Dalglish 89
75 Jozsef Bozsik 88
76 Hristo Stoichkov 87
77= Jairzinho 77
77= Jurgen Klinsmann 77
70 Gheorghe Hagi 75
80 Elias Figueroa 72
81 Duncan Edwards 68
82 Samuel Eto'o 67
83 Xavi 66
84= Hugo Sanchez 65
84= Kevin Keegan 65
86= Cafu 62
86= Andres Iniesta 62
88 Valentino Mazzola 60
89 Kaka 58
90 Matthias Sammer 54
91= Dejan Savicevic 53
91= Uwe Seeler 53
91= Francesco Totti 53
94 Lilian Thuram 52
95 Alberto Ohaco 50
96 Arthur Friedenreich 49
97= Imre Schlosser 47
97= Nandor Hidegkuti 47
99 John Charles 46
100 Hector Scarone 43
101 Cesar Cueto 42
102 Gaetano Scirea 41
103 Oldrich Nejedly 40
104= Jose Leandro Andrade 39
104= Oliver Kahn 39
106 Fabio Cannavaro 38
107 Arsenio Erico 37
108 Luigi Riva 36
109= Ernst Ocwirk 34
109= Romerito 34
109= Kazimierz Deyna 34
112 Djalma Santos 33
113= Jose Nasazzi 30
113= Luis Monti 30
115 Dragan Dzajic 28
116= Francisco Gento 26
116= Ryan Giggs 26
116= Carlos Valderrama 26
116= Eddie Hapgood 26
120= Junior 25
120= Bruno Conti 25
120= Enzo Francescoli 25
120= Amadeo Carizzo 25
120= Alberto Spencer 25
125= Piet Keizer 23
125= Tom Finney 23
127 Eric Cantona 22
128= Zbigniew Boniek 21
128= Paul Breitner 21
130= Andriy Shevchenko 20
130= Mario Zagallo 20
132= Tostao 19
132= Bebeto 19
134= Domingos Da Guia 17
134= Albert Shesternyov 17
136= Arjen Robben 16
136= Rene Higuita 16
138 David Beckham 15
139 Wim van Hanegem 14
140= Gunnar Gren 12
140= Claudio Gentile 12
140= Denis Law 12
140= Oleg Blokhin 12
144= Raul 11
144= Berti Vogts 11
144= Jay-Jay Okocha 11
144= Roger Milla 11
148= Ian Rush 10
148= Alessandro Del Piero 10
148= Abedi Pele 10
148= Anton Schall 10
152= Emilio Butragueno 9
152= Careca 9
152= Nils Liedholm 9
155= Sepp Maier 8
155= Leandro 8
155= Demetrio Albertini 8
155= Hugo Sotil 8
159= Gerson 7
159= Alessandro Nesta 7
159= Preben Elkjaer 7
159= Marcel Desailly 7
159= Neymar 7
164= Ruud van Nistelrooy 6
164= Wolfgang Overath 6
166= Edgar Davids 5
166= Ubaldo Fillol 5
166= Fritz Szepan 5
166= Allan Simonsen 5
170= Wesley Sneijder 4
170= Fernando Redondo 4
170= Bryan Robson 4
170= Dixie Dean 4
174= Jorginho 3
174= Hector Chumpitaz 3
174= Roberto Donadoni 3
177= Telmo Zarra 2
177= Gary Lineker 2
177= David Trezeguet 2
177= Rob Rensenbrink 2
181= Deco 1
181= Marco Tardelli 1
181= Rafael Marquez 1
181= Murtaz Khurtsilava 1
181= Steve Bloomer 1

 

This post by Peru FC might interest you though mate - it was on page 45 (I doubt you've been able to look through all the thread!) and was posted in the middle of 2013 based on a vote from just before then I think (the highest position for Scirea was the correct one according to Peru FC I think, and he thought it maybe should have been Bergomi listed too, where Scirea's name appears again IIRC):

 

Actually, normally I've resisted adding lists of publications apart from what the thread was originally based on but since that's by one writer and has exactly 50 choices and since the thread is a bit old I'll add that one as a vote on this thread too - it has Messi, C.Ronaldo, Xavi and Iniesta collectively as high or higher than I get the impression anyone who's voted on this thread would do if making an adjusted vote. There could be people on Big Soccer that are yet to vote that would put one or more of them even higher I suppose, but generally he's ranking them all very high.

I'll list his 50 choices and then revise the standings for the top 50 voting method again. He does have a good collection of players from different eras too, as you did yourself.

 

So, in effect that might have a compensatory effect re: the oldest votes - the ones which haven't been replaced anyway, since I'm not planning a new poll or new voting system.

 

Using copy and paste:

50. Kenny Dalglish, Scotland
49. Zbigniew Boniek, Poland
48. Matthias Sindelar, Austria
47. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, West Germany
46. Rivelino, Brazil
45. Just Fontaine, France
44. Roberto Carlos, Brazil
43. Andres Iniesta, Spain
42. Ruud Gullit, Netherlands
41. Uwe Seeler, West Germany
40. Michael Laudrup, Denmark
39. Andrea Pirlo, Italy
38. George Weah, Liberia
37. Thierry Henry, France
36. Gianluigi Buffon, Italy
35. Gianni Rivera, Italy
34. Hugo Sánchez , Mexico
33. Nilton Santos, Brazil
32. John Charles, Wales
31. Ronaldinho, Brazil
30. Enzo Francescoli, Uruguay
29. Cafu, Brazil
28. Mario Kempes, Argentina
27. Socrates, Brazil
26. Giuseppe Meazza, Italy
25. Xavi Hernández , Spain
24. Djalma Santos, Brazil
23. Bobby Moore, England
22. Lothar Matthäus, West Germany
21. Bobby Charlton, England
20. Marco Van Basten, Netherlands
19. Ronaldo, Brazil
18. Zico, Brazil
17. Franco Baresi, Italy
16. Dino Zoff, Italy
15. Gerd Muller, Germany
14. Eusebio, Portugal
13. Michel Platini, France
12. Paolo Maldini, Italy
11. George Best, Northern Ireland
And now without further ado, here is the Top 10…
10. Garrincha, Brazil
His nickname in Brazil, “The Joy of the People,” tells much about what Garrincha offered on the pitch. Born with both legs that bent to one side, the boy from Rio, whose demons ultimately caught up with him, befuddled opposition defenders with the kind of dribbling and ability to change direction never before witnessed. While Pele is the Brazilian known around the globe, many in his home country have more love for Garrincha. When Pele was injured, it was Garrincha who inspired Brazil to their second World Cup triumph in 1962.
9. Ferenc Puskas, Hungary
The Galloping Major was a part of two of the greatest teams of all time. The most integral part of the “Magical Magyars” Hungary side of the early 1950s, Puskas and his teammates appeared certainties to lift the 1954 World Cup, but somehow lost in the final to Germany after Puskas had put them ahead and was then controversially denied an equalizer in the dying stages. Thankfully, his brilliant career did taste glory at club level, having won three European Cups with Real Madrid, including in 1960 when he scored four in the famous 7-3 defeat of Eintracht Frankfurt.
8. Alfredo di Stefano, Argentina, Colombia and Spain
In marking his sad passing this week, Real Madrid had no qualms about declaring Di Stefano “the best player of all time” in a headline on their website. It is not hard to see why. Born in Argentina, but having also turned out at international level for Colombia and Spain, Di Stefano played a key role in the history of European soccer, having famously come close to joining Barcelona before moving to arch rivals Real Madrid, and becoming an integral figure in the Spanish side winning the first five European Cups.
7. Cristiano Ronaldo, Portugal
CR7 comes in at No. 7 and for good reason. He has shown little sign that he won’t continue to be the brightest of stars on a Real Madrid squad filled with world-class players. Once criticized for lacking end product, he has developed into the world’s most effective player, a testament to his relentless desire for self-improvement, which can also be seen in his phenomenal athleticism.
6. Franz Beckenbauer, Germany
For decades every defender with any remote ability on the ball has earned comparisons to Beckenbauer, but none have matched the graceful brilliance with which the man nicknamed Der Kaiser strode forward with the ball and initiated attacks during the 1960s and ’70s. The scorer of an impressive five goals in World Cups, Beckenbauer finally lifted the trophy as captain in 1974 after suffering painful defeat in the 1966 final.
5. Zinedine Zidane, France
Scored two goals with his head to lead France to victory in the 1998 World Cup final, but it was with his feet that Zidane brilliantly cut teams to shreds. With an ability to constantly keep opponents at bay when they thought the ball was theirs that was almost unparalleled, Zidane almost single-handedly inspired France to the World cup final in 2006, four years after he scored one of the all-time great goals in a European Cup final to win the trophy with Real Madrid.
4. Johan Cruyff, Netherlands
The most recognizable member of the great Dutch team of the 1970s that revolutionized the game with their Total Football, Cruyff was the total footballer. While nominally a center-forward, the Amsterdam-native was ahead of his time in dropping deep to the befuddlement of his opponents. Sadly fell agonizingly short of winning the World Cup, but won three straight European Cups with Ajax.
3. Diego Maradona, Argentina
Maradona played in an era when defenders were allowed to get away with brutalizing their more skilled opponents, and yet he was still majestic. A hero for leading Italian club Napoli to their first and still only two Serie A titles, his greatest achievement came when he inspired Argentina to World Cup success in 1986, scoring mesmeric goals in both the quarterfinals and semifinals.
2. Lionel Messi, Argentina
The key member of the greatest club team in history as Barcelona dominated Europe, Messi can change a game in an instant with unfathomable close control while gliding forward at lightning speed. The Argentinian has answered doubts about his ability to perform for his country and could now complete his legacy by leading them to World Cup glory.
1. Pelé, Brazil
Bookended his career at the top level with World Cup wins, first as a brilliant 17-year-old in 1958 and then 12 years later as part of one of the greatest ever teams to ever grace the competition. In between he picked up another winner’s medal in 1962, although was injured during the tournament. The all-time top scorer for Brazil, Pele fired in a total of 1,281 goals during a glittering career.


So that makes the standings for the voting on this thread become as follows:

1 Pele 1521
2 Diego Maradona 1480
3 Johan Cruyff 1464
4 Alfredo Di Stefano 1403
5 Franz Beckenbauer 1400
6 Ferenc Puskas 1347
7 Michel Platini 1303
8 Garrincha 1240
9 Ronaldo 1168
10 Zinedine Zidane 1159
11 Eusebio 1138
12 Zico 1131
13 Gerd Muller 1066
14 George Best 1055
15 Bobby Charlton 1007
16 Marco van Basten 962
17 Lothar Matthaus 843
18 Paolo Maldini 817
19 Lev Yashin 754
20 Lionel Messi 742
21 Romario 718
22 Franco Baresi 692
23 Ruud Gullit 633
24 Roberto Baggio 611
25 Bobby Moore 582
26 Didi 563
27 Guissepe Meazza 512
28= Rivelino 485
28= Ronaldinho 485
30 Stanley Matthews 468
31 Jose Manuel Moreno 377
32 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 359
33 Gianni Rivera 343
34 Zizinho 339
35 Dino Zoff 336
36 Raymond Kopa 297
37 Cristiano Ronaldo 294
38 Thierry Henry 271
39 Leonidas 239
40 Matthias Sindelar 207
41 Daniel Passarella 206
42= Paolo Rossi 204
42= Michael Laudrup 204
44 Fritz Walter 200
45 Rivaldo 197
46 Sandor Kocsis 195
47 Mario Kempes 185
48= Juan Schiaffino 156
48= Ladislao Kubala 156
50 George Weah 153
51 Dennis Bergkamp 147
52 Gianluigi Buffon 144
53 Luis Figo 136
54 Falcao 134
55 Luis Suarez Miramontes 133
56= Johan Neeskens 130
56= Roberto Carlos 130
58 Socrates 129
59 Josef Bican 122
60 Giacinto Facchetti 121
61= Gabriel Batistuta 118
61= Carlos Alberto 118
63 Nilton Santos 116
64 Peter Schmeichel 115
65 Teofilo Cubillas 108
66 Omar Sivori 102
67= Gordon Banks 101
67= Gyorgy Sarosi 101
69 Sandro Mazzola 99
70 Just Fontaine 98
71 Adolfo Pedernera 97
72= Gunnar Nordahl 95
72= Frank Rijkaard 95
74 Xavi 92
75 Kenny Dalglish 90
76 Jozsef Bozsik 88
77 Hristo Stoichkov 87
78 Cafu 84
79 Hugo Sanchez 82
80= Jairzinho 77
80= Jurgen Klinsmann 77
82 Gheorghe Hagi 75
83 Elias Figueroa 72
84 Andres Iniesta 70
85 Duncan Edwards 68
86 Samuel Eto'o 67
87= Kevin Keegan 65
87= John Charles 65
89 Uwe Seeler 63
90= Valentino Mazzola 60
90= Djalma Santos 60
92 Kaka 58
93 Matthias Sammer 54
94= Dejan Savicevic 53
94= Francesco Totti 53
96 Lilian Thuram 52
97 Alberto Ohaco 50
98 Arthur Friedenreich 49
99= Imre Schlosser 47
99= Nandor Hidegkuti 47
101 Enzo Francescoli 46
102 Hector Scarone 43
103 Cesar Cueto 42
104 Gaetano Scirea 41
105 Oldrich Nejedly 40
106= Jose Leandro Andrade 39
106= Oliver Kahn 39
108 Fabio Cannavaro 38
109 Arsenio Erico 37
110 Luigi Riva 36
111= Ernst Ocwirk 34
111= Romerito 34
111= Kazimierz Deyna 34
114= Jose Nasazzi 30
114= Luis Monti 30
116 Dragan Dzajic 28
117= Francisco Gento 26
117= Ryan Giggs 26
117= Carlos Valderrama 26
117= Eddie Hapgood 26
121= Junior 25
121= Bruno Conti 25
121= Amadeo Carizzo 25
121= Alberto Spencer 25
125= Piet Keizer 23
125= Tom Finney 23
125= Zbigniew Boniek 23
128 Eric Cantona 22
129 Paul Breitner 21
130= Andriy Shevchenko 20
130= Mario Zagallo 20
132= Tostao 19
132= Bebeto 19
134= Domingos Da Guia 17
134= Albert Shesternyov 17
136= Arjen Robben 16
136= Rene Higuita 16
138 David Beckham 15
139 Wim van Hanegem 14
140= Gunnar Gren 12
140= Claudio Gentile 12
140= Denis Law 12
140= Oleg Blokhin 12
140= Andrea Pirlo 12
145= Raul 11
145= Berti Vogts 11
145= Jay-Jay Okocha 11
145= Roger Milla 11
149= Ian Rush 10
149= Alessandro Del Piero 10
149= Abedi Pele 10
149= Anton Schall 10
153= Emilio Butragueno 9
153= Careca 9
153= Nils Liedholm 9
156= Sepp Maier 8
156= Leandro 8
156= Demetrio Albertini 8
156= Hugo Sotil 8
160= Gerson 7
160= Alessandro Nesta 7
160= Preben Elkjaer 7
160= Marcel Desailly 7
160= Neymar 7
165= Ruud van Nistelrooy 6
165= Wolfgang Overath 6
167= Edgar Davids 5
167= Ubaldo Fillol 5
167= Fritz Szepan 5
167= Allan Simonsen 5
171= Wesley Sneijder 4
171= Fernando Redondo 4
171= Bryan Robson 4
171= Dixie Dean 4
175= Jorginho 3
175= Hector Chumpitaz 3
175= Roberto Donadoni 3
178= Telmo Zarra 2
178= Gary Lineker 2
178= David Trezeguet 2
178= Rob Rensenbrink 2
182= Deco 1
182= Marco Tardelli 1
182= Rafael Marquez 1
182= Murtaz Khurtsilava 1
182= Steve Bloomer 1

 

Ok mate - you're welcome to do so and I'll add your vote on when you're ready.

 

Ok mate - cool thanks.

I can get the update done now actually.

 

Yeah, that one has been posted on Big Soccer and maybe this thread before I remember. Interesting idea to score points like that. I think I'll refrain from adding more non-member lists as votes after the other one though now.

I'll edit the post I made above to show the latest points totals btw.