NSR: Current Events thread

Discussion in 'Brazil NSR' started by NotreDameFlamengo, Nov 17, 2012.

  1. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
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    And all these baby boomers ********ed up with the way they raised their kids. Ffs
     
  2. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    Dec 9, 2012
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    Fair enough...
     
  3. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
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    Not really. The casualties were a drop in the bucket in this country-- that's why there was a baby boom here as opposed to in say Germany or France 1918. Most of our guys made it home.

    Also, some of us tried to be Republicans for a good part of that-- but our party kept offering up Nixons and Reagans and Bushes before Trump.

    And of course some of us didn't have kids...

    But whatever; he's not the first to think he knows things he doesn't... in fact that's what the joke was about. I'll be happy to let it drop, or let him have whatever last word he wants, or whatever-- I'm done.
     
  4. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
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    This isn't something I really want to argue in-depth, particularly in this thread.
     
  5. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
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    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #305 Harambe Alvinegro, May 1, 2017
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    You don't know history and you don't understand the dominance hierarchy , let me explain. The causlaities were not a drop in the bucket , especially if you were a poor person in the United States , it opened up jobs , education , and far more access to women as a result. Every country is a Drop in the bucket compared to the soviets losses , they are the reason why the war was won. Comparing Germany in 1918 to the USA after ww2 is insane... men had no assess to food and heat let alone women and upward mobility. Between 1918-1923 their was 2 attempts at socialist revolutions and like 4 right wing coup attempts in Germany so it's a terrible comparison. I'm probably missing a few other attempts to tear down the SPD's trash government. Making it home also has nothing to do with the dominance hierarchy and trust me enough males lost their life's to make a huge difference. Epsecially since basic facts like more women than man naturally. The golden age of capitalism was 1950-1970 btw, There is really no disputing that. Nixon was the one who ended the Cold War , due to his unpredictable nature. And he's far more left wing than Hilary Clinton... if you take a high resolution photo , I know big soccer politics deals with low resolution. Like I said the causalities weren't a drop in the bucket , America didn't have 290 million then ffs. Plus men had no problem finding suitable partners , society was quite a bit different. See men only Marry across or down on the hierarchy , women marry upwards or if she fails across. I mean what are you going to tell me next poverty causes crime ? Biggest myth on the college campuses , it's relative poverty. Income inequality is like a .7 on the correlation sclae when dealing with violent crime /anti social behavior. One reason why you don't see violent crimes in Newfoundland , South Dakota , and small villages in Africa is due to this . A lot of the crime is over access to females , which is already explained by the hierarchy. Why do you think Latins and blacks father so many kids out of wedlock ? Cause they are bad ? No, not really it's cause they make shiit money. Trump was right when he said when your Rich they want to fuk you or whatever he said , cause when your high on the dominance hierarchy you can do what you want and it determines your access to many things.
     
  6. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Felipe Melo endorsed bolsonaro today , pretty much the only choice imo even though I like Doria.
     
  7. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
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    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Lula sentenced to prison or is he going to get out of this too ?
     
  8. Mengão86

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    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    I'll believe it when I see it.
     
  9. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
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    Santos FC
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    Brazil
    #310 Harambe Alvinegro, Sep 4, 2017
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    The Kochs had money in the republican primaries to start with, so I don't see your point. The New right doesn't need money to win , see the last 5 congressional run offs since the election. ffs giamonte strangled a jew reporter and still won lol. I think republicans spent 4 mil in georgia and the dems had 26. You are delusional if you think Kochs cares about republican or democrat ,they just want to get his money and Donald troubles that scenario for him, same with bernie. One reason why both were colluded against. Everyone crashed and burned against Trump , even the pope had to bend the knee and say sorry to the donald. Rand is probably the most popular congressman of the new right so i don't know what you are talking about. He's one of the few who stood up to trump ( healthcare debacle) and didn't lose support among the populist base. Read more breitbart if you want the pulse. And you took the convo where I wasn't going in. You are talking Elites. I'm talking young libertarians who vote and follow politics. Like most libertarians I've yet to see you take an actual position on anything that is relevant. Instead I see most of you guys on the internet mining bitcoin and hyping up other crypto currencies. Like I said I respect the intellect but why bother following politics if you never take a position other then leave me alone. Honest question. You are for unlimited immigration?

    I think it is more nuanced than saying Trump showed his true colors because we simply don't have all the information available. Foreign policy works that way and we simply are not privy to the info, it's not the nfl where we can go watch film and the all 22. Deep state wanted him out so you'll agree, I think he's done things to satisfy them. Obama said we'd be out of afghanistan too... I never thought Trump would be some sort of radical but he has tried his best with things like the country ban, trying to overturn DACA , ramping up Obama's record for deportations, getting us to 3%gdp, and drastically increasing consumer confidence. He has done quite a bit actually.

    If you want to go moralistic about North Korea why not go moralistic with China? Regardless, you don't negotiate effectively by throwing out certain options. We technically shouldn't be trading with them if we look at it from a moralistic perspective. I disagree, I think Trump has drastically changed our foreign policy already. Afghanistan is there because this country needs opiates for all the unemployed and dismayed white people. Afghanistan had like 30% world opium production b4 we went in guess how much now??? over 90 lol. Wake up. You think Pfizer is going to lose its troops guarding the opium fields? no way.
     
  10. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
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    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #311 Harambe Alvinegro, Sep 4, 2017
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    And Bernie really isn't socialist. He wants capitalism. Antifa is a better representation of what the socialist base looks like. the other bernie supporters have been indoctrinated to vote democrat , they just follow the script man. Most people who support bernie are not nuanced enough to even know what the proletariat is let alone the means of production. go compare jill stein's votes (she still supports capitalism btw..) with Gary Johnson. not seeing what your debating there.
     
  11. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
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    Santos FC
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    #312 Harambe Alvinegro, Sep 4, 2017
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  12. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
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    Fair enough. I don't think the Kochs care about Republicans or Democrats except to say that the Kochs have generally found more receptive candidates to back on the Republican side than the Democratic side and that seems to be changing.
    I'm for comprehensive immigration reform. The border should absolutely be strengthened, although I think an actual wall spanning the entire US-Mexico border is unworkable and ultimately wasted resources. IIRC, most illegal immigration actually occurs on overstayed visas these days, so that needs to be enforced more strenuously and if needed the number of visas granted should be tightened. A national e-verify system for employers is another solid idea that should be implemented. As far as the undocumenteds already here, criminals should be deported immediately, but the rest should be given a path to at least temporary legality, not citizenship, if for no other reason than so that the companies employing them can be held to account when they underpay or abuse them. DACA should be reinstated.

    Overall, I tend to be for substantially improved enforcement for those coming in and yet compassion for those who have already built lives in America. Future legal immigration should generally be allowed mostly on the basis of long-term employment in areas of labor shortage.
    Maybe, but you asked me a little while back something along the lines of if I thought Trump would bomb the Middle East less, and I don't see where he's exercising restraint in either lives lost or resources spent or foreign policy directions changed. If I were the military-industrial complex, I'd be extremely happy with Trump's presidency. Granted, I don't have all the information, but from where I sit the only thing that's changed is Trump uses nicer words to describe Russia and harsher words with NATO. The country ban is stupid IMO. If it was actually designed with national security implications in mind, it would've included Saudi Arabia. As is, it's a toothless bill that does a lot to pit the rest of the country against Muslim Arabs without even addressing the root problem.
    The nuclear option, which is what Trump has, even Bannon said as much, is something you shouldn't be tossing around lightly. It only aggravates the North Koreans and gets China worked up and makes South Korea antsy. Trump just threw it out there unnecessarily when the reality is that China won't let North Korea take any real substantive aggressive action to endanger its largest trading partner. That's a good point about Afghanistan tnough, but wasm't the whole point of electing Trump was that he could do what the other politicians couldn't and go against the grain of corporate decision-making?
     
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  13. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
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    Sorry, I get confused with the variety of different definitions of socialism thrown out there, from run-of-the-mill social democracy to pure Marx. Good to understand you're talking actual, pure socialists.
     
  14. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
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    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    So you don't care about laws? Daca beneficiaries broke laws and benefited from USA tax money , pell grants , and there is no punishment? What incentive does someone have not to illegally immigrate here? None. Trump has curbed illegal immigration by a lot , it is down a large percent, I forget the exact percentage, mostly because of his rhetoric if I had to guess. You speak compassion but no compassion for the whites caught up in the opoid crisis and the lack of opportunities presented for them? So we should allow more unskilled labor and the enormous birthrates it brings?? Let's not get into the crime.. The Muslim ban was designed originally to do what was intended, curb islamic immigration which is something that has grown EXPONENTIALLY in my city and this country. This is where the libertarian comes out because there is no interest in culture and how seeing 3 women in beekeepers outfits walking 10 feet behind their husbands resonates with ordinary people. Most people who support the immigration live in all white neighborhoods and their "minority" friends all have college degrees. Even Farrakhan agreed with Trump's original ban, it's common sense. And Saudia Arabia isn't sending migrants anywhere. We are talking about the deep state and it is common sense. Our deep State built Saudia Arabia in the 1970's, read about their surveillance system , our government set it up so they can maintain order and so americans can consume and not ask questions. It's a toothless bill because we have judges who aren't judges, they are politicians who want to push an agenda. The law had to be rewritten like 5 times ffs. Why can't we have immigrants from europe??? Why does every immigrant have to be from central america, burma, or the middle east??? The disparity is so great that it's laughable. The immigration is just used for political gain that's why. Not to make the country better. We no longer get the brightest and best, we get the castoffs who will work for lower wages in what little unskilled jobs are still left. Identity politics is in vogue and will continue to be in vogue. And the immigrants brought in never compete with the upper middle class/ low rich class. Always compete with the african americans and poor whites. Why is this???? I love the myth of college graduates coming here from other countries in this new wave of immigration.

    Trump's drone strikes went down compared to Obama and he had to bomb assad, media wanted it. They gave him a break for a week after that. Russia and Israel are in control of that situation now regardless.

    That was the point in electing Trump but he wouldn't please you regardless. Everyone is still in a zone of cognitive dissonance (those who thought he had no chance at winning) so there isn't much objective analysis. I like how his approach to North Korea. It is far different than the last three administrations so you are kind of not making sense here. And trump said all the russia and Nato shiit prior to being elected too. Nato is a bigger threat to the world than North Korea or "Drumpf" trust me on that. I pretty much told everyone he'd be pretty centrist , I haven't seen anything that has proven me wrong. 20140024_1267142123412615_2663660956746271423_n.png
     
  15. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
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    Santos FC
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    Brazil
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    Are they not useful idiots ?? Just shows how dumbed down Americans are.
     
  16. MatthausSammer

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    They also bought ads for Trump Sanders, and Stein, if you want to go down that road.
     
  17. Harambe Alvinegro

    Feb 13, 2017
    The highlands between DRC and Rwanda
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    Santos FC
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    Brazil
    #318 Harambe Alvinegro, Sep 29, 2017
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    Not really disproving my thesis at all, this fits them using race as a main tool to destabilize the nation. You see Jill steins vp ? Bernie hates whites or at least despises his skin like a bunch of his followers , and trump was already branded by the useful idiots in the media and academia as racist. Also I think this is far more relevant than throwing money at campaigns which every world power including the USA does. It is completely rational for any world power to want to avoid Clinton ? See Honduras , Syria , Libya and watch the video of her laughing about killing gaddaffi. Any rational actor outside the USA bubble would want to avoid her.
     

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