Current best starting Xl?

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  1. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still want to see DWill steal the job from Acosta. He nails down that premier league spot he should.
     
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  2. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you want a better LB, move Johnson there and bring Nagbe into the midfield.

    Also, Dwyer and Feilhaber deserve more chances in my book, but Altidore and Bradley will not and should not get benched for them.
     
  3. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like your 11, but I'd rather see Nagbe than Acosta.

     
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  4. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I would guess Pulisic was in some selections. I would not have had a problem with that.

    Who did you have in your best xi in Pulisic's position a month before he got his first cap?
     
  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I didn't include Pulisic until after the Honduras game. I rather watch how a player does with the NT than guide myself on their club performance.
     
  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is where I am at save for Acosta. I don't know who to replace him with. Moving Nagbe (CM) or Pulisic (CAM/SS) inside makes the wing dropoff significant. Could move FJ up but then I'd have to start Villafana. Dempsey or Pulisic as CAM in a diamond is too light on defense and as the 2nd forward tends to isolate Jozy where he struggles. I prefer Wood in that setup. Could pair Cameron with Bradley but then I am not comfortable with Gonzalez at CB. I guess I would start Bedoya for now.
     
  7. CU soccer

    CU soccer Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    Panama City Beach
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Problem is, I'm in the camp that thinks Nagbe is terribly overrated. Anyone that inept in the final 1/3 shouldn't be playing midfield at this level.

    As stated, I'd have Bradley and Altidore coming off the bench.
     
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  8. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    Your lineup has dynamic and skilled players. I would worry about Cameron's passing/distributions skills out of the 6 .

    While I personally prefer Morris as the guy getting behind the defense, Wood is a handful and Dwyer might be the right 2nd strikerfinisher.

    Yes, the last guy you'd want is Nagbe flopping in his own defensive third on turn over of possession because he was too slow and have Pulisic and Fab and Benny walking the counter up the pitch, lol.
     
  9. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guess we can field a full 11 then...
     
  10. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a dwill and mb center mid pair? so i take it you are fine with like 2 or 3 shots on goal per game?
     
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  11. CU soccer

    CU soccer Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    Panama City Beach
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm 100% ok with Morris or Wood. Would probably just play whoever was "on" at the moment.

    IMO, Cameron > Bradley at distribution, defense, etc... pretty much everything other than free kicks and long range shots on goal.
    With Benny on the pitch, free kicks would be taken care of.
     
  12. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That's what Klinsman teams were good for.
     
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  13. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    And if Cameron really does manage to stay healthy then I'd probably put him in for Gonzo
     
  14. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everybody: "Bruce Arena only plays his vets!"

    Everybody:"Why is he playing Acosta and Arriola! (biting fingernails)!?"
     
  15. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Bradley has pretty consistently completed passes at a higher percentage than Cameron.

    Speaking of passing % Nagbe's passing percentage in the final third is 89.8% and based on the location and direction of his passes he surpasses his expected completion percentage by 13.8%. Both of those are the best of any player in MLS with a significant sample size of passes.

    Could you speak on that?
     
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  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
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  17. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Center mids hit their wall around 33 years old. Cameron is to old to play CM in a WC (so is Jones). He would require every other game off and that's fine for group play but not the elimination rounds. He also is the perfect partner for Brooks and CB's can play at older ages.
     
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  18. CU soccer

    CU soccer Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    Panama City Beach
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. CU soccer

    CU soccer Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    Panama City Beach
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many of Bradley's "completed" balls are backwards to his CB's or fullbacks? My 58 year old mother can do that. I'm laughing as I type that bc I'm watching TFC vs NYC and Bradley just played 4 straight back passes in the span of 20 seconds. He's amazing at destroying attacks.

    Nagbe offers decent speed and, unlike 90% of our current player pool, will run in to open space. But that's it. He's terrible at creating in the final 1/3, has poor vision, and his off the ball movement/positioning is pretty bad for a NT player.

    Our media and fan base "ooo's" and "aahhh's" at all the least important attributes you should want/require from NT players. Nagbe, Bedoya, Zusi, Bradley, Zardes and Altidore are prime examples.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Alternative facts?

    Cameron-Jones was the central pair in that match, with Cameron in the DM role. At least in this universe.

    See Zonal Marking analysis of the game (quite good, actually):

    http://www.zonalmarking.net/2014/07...nate-but-takes-ages-to-make-the-breakthrough/

    "The key factor was a direct result of the most surprising selection decision. Beckerman and Jermaine Jones had worked excellently as a duo throughout this competition, and bringing in Cameron in a (relatively) unfamiliar position didn’t make much sense."

    Cameron was the weak spot in our midfield, the reason we got so dominated. But folks here don't seem to have watched that game.
     
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  21. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Maybe Nagbe takes more dribbles

    Here's the football I would prefer


    http://spurs.247sports.com/Bolt/WAT...ful-no-dribble-fast-break-vs-Memphis-51946585

    The San Antonio Spurs know a thing or two about visually-appealing basketball.

    The latest example came during the Spurs victory over the Memphis Grizzlies in San Antonio on Thursday night.

    With the Spurs holding a seven-point lead late in the fourth quarter, Kawhi Leonard turned an errant Grizzlies pass into a steal, and ignited a fast-break that ultimately resulted in a lay-up on the other end - without the ball once touching the floor.

    Needless to say, the basketball media and fans are more sophisticated than US soccer media.
     
  22. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    What I'd like to see emerge for a year from now:

    -------------------Howard

    -Yedlin--Cameron---Brooks--Fana

    ------------------Bradley
    --Chandler-------------------Carleton
    ------------------Pulisic

    -------Wood-------------Altidore

    But I have a hard time imagining Bruce Arena starting two teenage midfielders, even if they were the best options. .
     
  23. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Cameron doesn't have the positioning to play CB. He's also a big ball-watcher. He's a #6.
     
  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    For the NT, Cameron has been much better as a CB than as a CM. For the NT, Johnson has been much better as a LB than as a LW. People criticize Villafana for failing to get any crosses through --they should watch Fabian last two games. What is bad as a LB, is unforgivable in a LW.

    I'd need to see Cameron as a CM with the NT before considering moving him out of the defense line. The only guy who could act as a director of the defense, were Cameron out, is Besler. But I don't think Bruce is going to play two lefties as CBs (Besler-JAB).
     
  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Villafana prefers getting to the 6m box. Good for him. Having said that, I belive it was Villafana who made the cross that Dempsey headed into the post in GC.
     
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