Review: Croatian players in Yugoslavian national team - historic injustice

Yugoslavia:

After the World War I. the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (later called Yugoslavia) was created. Almost all Serbs finally lived in one state, in majority. The Kingdom had its capital in Belgrade and was ruled by a Serbian king; it was, however, unstable and prone to ethnic tensions.

I ask myself, how can country who's residents came many centuries after Croatians be the main country and put the Serbian king on the throne of Croats. In my history lecture I showed that we had our kings since 10th century. We don't need Serbian ruler, especially because we helped to poor Serbians who lost their battles against Ottoman Empire. Living in peace wasn't enough for Serbians, they wanted to create a state at any cause, they saw our sea, coast, islands, many agricultural fields and they wished to rule forgetting all how they were poor and unprotected.

Serbians created: Kingdom of Yugoslavia

Ok, now what?

The Kingdom of Yugoslavia (Serbo-Croat and Slovene: Kraljevina Jugoslavija, Cyrillic script: Краљевина Југославија) was a state stretching from the Western Balkans to Central Europe which existed during the often-tumultuous interwar era of 1918–1941. It was formed in 1918 by the merger of the provisional State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs, formed from territories of the defunct Austro-Hungarian Empire, with the formerly independent Kingdom of Serbia. The Kingdom of Montenegro united with Serbia just five days earlier, while the regions of Kosovo, Vojvodina and Macedonia were parts of Serbia prior to the unification. For its first eleven years of existence it was officially called Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, but the term Yugoslavia was its colloquial name from the very beginning.

On 17 April 1941, Yugoslavia was occupied by Nazi Germany and was reorganised into four provinces under foreign rule; a royal government-in-exile, recognized by the United Kingdom and later by all the Allied powers, was established in London. In 1943, the new country called Democratic Federal Yugoslavia was proclaimed, and its capital was freed following the Belgrade Offensive. The King was formally deposed by the Constituent assembly on 29 November 1945.

Capital was Belgrade, and during World War II. the capital in exile was London, United Kingdom. How is that possible?

Kings of this artificial Kingdom were:

Peter I of Serbia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_I_of_Yugoslavia

Alexander I of Yugoslavia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_I_of_Yugoslavia

"Alexander Karađorđević was born in Principality of Montenegro in December 1888. His father was King Peter I of Serbia and his mother the former Princess Zorka of Montenegro, a daughter of King Nicholas of Montenegro. In Belgrade on 8 June 1922 he married HRH Princess Maria of Romania, who was a daughter of King Ferdinand of Romania. They had three sons: Crown Prince Peter, and Princes Tomislav and Andrej."

Nothing to do with Croatia once again - pure dictatorship of one country in brotherhood and unity.

Possible confusion here: Princes Tomislav wasn't the first king of Croatia, they have the same name. King Tomislav lived in 10th century, this Tomislav looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Tomislav_of_Yugoslavia

Peter II of Yugoslavia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_II_of_Yugoslavia

Peter II, also known as Peter II Karađorđević (Serbo-Croatian: Petar II Karađorđević, Serbian Cyrillic: Петар II Карађорђевић; 6 September 1923 – 3 November 1970), was the third and last King of Yugoslavia. He was the eldest son of King Alexander I and Princess Maria of Romania; his godfather was George V of the United Kingdom.

Nothing to do with Croatia again.

Prince Paul of Yugoslavia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Karađorđević,_Prince_Regent_of_Yugoslavia

"Prince Paul of Yugoslavia was the only son of Arsen Karađorđević, Prince of Serbia (a brother of Peter I of Yugoslavia) and Princess and Countess Aurora Pavlovna Demidova (a granddaughter of the Finnish philanthropist Aurora Karamzin and her Russian husband Prince and Count Pavel Nikolaievich Demidov, and Russian Prince Peter Troubetskoy and his wife Elisabeth Esperovna, ne'e Princess Belosselsky-Belozersky). He married Princess Olga of Greece and Denmark, a sister of Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent, in 1923. George VI of the United Kingdom, as Duke of York, was best man at his wedding in Belgrade."

Nothing to do with Croatia again.

Serbia had good relations with England, later you will see how England helped them.

Stojan Protić: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stojan_Protić

Stojan Protić (Serbian Cyrillic: Стојан Протић) (January 28, 1857, Varvarin - October 28, 1923) was a Yugoslavian political figure. He served as the prime minister of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes between 1918 and 1919, and again in 1920. Stojan Protić was an ideologist of the People's Radical Party. He wrote articles for some political magazines. He participated in writing the Serbian constitution in 1888. After a dispute with Nikola Pašić, in 1903 Protić left and founded the Independent Radical Party that existed until 1919.

Nothing to do with Croatia again. By the way, how can anyone bring Serbian radical party in Kingdom of Croatians, Serbians and Slovenians? Weird.

Yugoslav nationalism escalated and cemented in the Balkans following the assassination of Austrian Archduke Francis Ferdinand by Bosnian Serb Gavrilo Princip, the subsequent invasion of Serbia and the outbreak of World War I.

Croatians wanted to save Yugoslavia back than, but Serbian nationalism was endless:

Dalmatian Croat politician Ante Trumbić became a prominent Yugoslav nationalist leader during the war, and lead the Yugoslav Committee that lobbied the Allies to support the creation of an independent Yugoslavia. Trumbić faced initial hostility from Serbian Prime Minister Nikola Pašić who preferred an enlarged Serbia over a unified Yugoslav state, however both Pašić and Trumbić agreed to a compromise which was delivered at the Corfu Declaration on 20 July 1917 that advocated the creation of a united state of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes that would be led by the Serbian House of Karađorđević???? How is that possible????

In 1916, the Serbian Parliament in exile decided on the creation of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia at a meeting inside the Municipal Theatre of Corfu.[2] The kingdom was formed on 1 December 1918 under the name "Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes" (Serbian: Краљевина Срба, Хрвата и Словенаца / Kraljevina Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca, Croatian: Kraljevina Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca, Slovene: Kraljevina Srbov, Hrvatov in Slovencev) or Kingdom of SHS (Краљевина СХС / Kraljevina SHS) for short.

On 1 December 1918, the new kingdom was proclaimed by Alexander Karađorđević, Prince-Regent for his father, Peter I of Serbia. The new Kingdom was made up of the formerly independent kingdoms of Serbia and Montenegro (which had unified in the previous month), as well as a substantial amount of territory that was formerly part of Austria–Hungary, the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs. The lands previously in Austria–Hungary that formed the new state included Croatia, Slavonia and Vojvodina from the Hungarian part of the Empire, Carniola, part of Styria and most of Dalmatia from the Austrian part, and the crown province of Bosnia and Herzegovina. The creation of the state was supported by pan-Slav nationalists and Serbian nationalists. For the Pan-Slavic movement, all of the South Slav (Yugoslav) people had united into a single state and hoped that the peoples would unite as Slavs and abandon past differences. For Serbian nationalists, the desired goal of uniting the majority of the Serb people across the Balkans into one state was also achieved. Furthermore, as Serbia already had a government, military, and police force, it was the logical choice to form the nucleus of the Yugoslav state.

Serbian nationalists supported Serbian ruler, of course.

The Yugoslav kingdom bordered Italy and Austria to the northwest, Hungary and Romania to the north, Bulgaria to the east, Greece and Albania to the south, and the Adriatic Sea to the west. Almost immediately, it ran into disputes with all its neighbors except Romania. Slovenia was difficult to determine, since it had been an integral part of Austria for 400 years. The Vojvodina region was disputed with Hungary, Macedonia with Bulgaria, Fiume and Trieste with Italy, and also the border with Greece, in essence a ceasefire line from the Balkan Wars. Finally, Yugoslavia claimed half of Albania for itself.
A plebiscite was also held in the Province of Carinthia, which opted to remain in Austria. Austrians had formed a majority in this region although numbers reflected that some Slovenes did vote for Carinthia to become part of Austria. The Dalmatian port city of Zadar (Italian: Zara) and a few of the Dalmatian islands were given to Italy. The city of Rijeka (Italian: Fiume) was declared to be the Free State of Fiume, but it was soon occupied, and in 1924 annexed, by Italy, which had also been promised the Dalmatian coast during World War I, and Yugoslavia claiming Istria, a part of the former Austrian Littoral which had been annexed to Italy, but which contained a considerable population of Croats and Slovenes.

Yugoslavia with Serbian rulers gave Croatian Istria, parts of Dalmatia and islands to Italy. They never belonged to Italy. And yet Croatia today gave to Italians bilingual environment in Istria.

The formation of the constitution of 1921 sparked tensions between the different Yugoslav nationalities. Trumbić opposed the 1921 constitution and over time grew increasingly hostile towards the Yugoslav government that he saw as being centralized in the favour of Serb hegemony over Yugoslavia.
The new government tried to integrate the new country politically as well as economically, a task made difficult because of the diversity of language (chiefly disagreements between Serbian and Croatian speakers over standardising Serbo-Croat); ethnicities, and religions in the new state; the different history of each region (characterised by centuries of subjugation by different rulers, e.g. Venice, Hungary, Austria, Ottoman Empire etc.), and differences in economic development among regions (a more developed north spanning Slovenia, northern Croatia and northern Serbia, than a poorer south which encompassed Dalmatia, Montenegro and southern Serbia).

Economy in Yugoslavia was so bad:

Croatia became land of peasants who worked with dirt. From earlier glorious days, Croatians became potato diggers. What a progress.

"Three quarters of the Yugoslav workforce was engaged in agriculture. A few farmers existed, but most were subsistence peasants."

Those in the south were especially poor, living in a hilly, infertile region. No large estates existed except in the north, and all of those were owned by foreigners. Indeed, one of the first actions undertaken by the new Yugoslav state in 1919 was to break up the estates and dispose of foreign, and in particular Magyar landowners. Nearly 40% of the rural population was surplus (ie. excess people not needed to maintain current production levels), and despite a warm climate, Yugoslavia was also relatively dry. Internal communications were poor, damage from WWI had been extensive, and with few exceptions agriculture was devoid of machinery or other modern farming technologies.

Serbs as manufacturers: funny.

Manufacturing was limited to Belgrade and the other major population centers, and consisted mainly of small, comparatively primitive facilities that produced strictly for the domestic market.

Croatian Gold coast became empty: The commercial potential of Yugoslavia's Adriatic ports went to waste because the nation lacked the capital or technical knowledge to operate a shipping industry. On the other hand, the mining industry was well developed due to the nation's abundance of mineral resources, but since it was primarily owned and operated by foreigners, most production was exported. Yugoslavia on the whole was the third least industrialized nation in Eastern Europe after Bulgaria and Albania.

If Serbians are your rulers, this situation is reality


Yugoslavia was typical of Eastern European nations in that it borrowed large sums of money from the West during the 1920s. When the Great Depression began in 1930, the Western lenders called in their debts, which could not be paid back. Some of the money was lost to graft, although most was used by farmers to improve production and export potential. Agricultural exports were always an unstable prospect, and the Depression caused the market for them to collapse as nations everywhere erected trade barriers. Italy was a major trading partner of Yugoslavia in the initial years after World War I, but ties fell off after Benito Mussolini came to power. In the grim economic situation of the 1930s, Yugoslavia followed the lead of its neighbors in allowing itself to become a dependent on Nazi Germany.

Serbia - eternal loaner. Croatia lived much better before.

Yugoslavia had no native landowning class or an aristocracy outside of Bosnia. The small middle class occupied the major population centers and almost everyone else were peasants engaged in subsistence agriculture. The largest ethnic group were Serbs followed by Croats, Slovenes, Macedonians, Bosnians, and Albanians. Religion followed the same pattern with half the population following Orthodox Christianity, 40 or so percent being Catholic, and the rest Islam. In such a polyglot nation, tensions were frequent, but especially between Serbs and Croats. Other quarrels were those between Serbs and Macedonians, as the Yugoslav government had as its official position that the latter were ethnic Serbs. Although there was no linguistic or ethnic justification for this claim, Yugoslavia still promoted it relentlessly.

Slovenes were closer to Croats in terms of religion and culture, but did not share their neighbor's violent disliking of Serbs. In particular, the Slovenes knew they were too small in numbers to form a nation of their own and there was no reason to suppose a Croat-dominated Yugoslavia would be any better or worse than a Serb-dominated one. For the most part, they went along with the general political flow and were not a significant source of problems.
The predominately Muslim Bosnians won some concessions from Belgrade, but always faced strong disliking from their neighbors, especially Serbs and were known to one and all as "Turks" regardless of their language. Albanians fared worse since they could not speak Serbian, but all Muslims were the subject of widespread prejudice in Yugoslavia.
Other lesser minorities included Greeks, Italians, Romanians, Magyars, and Bulgarians. Aside from the Romanians, the Yugoslav government awarded no special treatment to them in terms of respect for their language, culture, or political autonomy, not surprising given that all of their native countries had territorial disputes with Yugoslavia. A few Jews lived in the major cities; they were well-assimilated and there were no significant problems with anti-Semitism.
Although Yugoslavia had compulsory public schooling, it was inaccessible to most peasants. Official literacy figures for the population stood at 50%, but it varied widely throughout the country. Less than 10% of Slovenes were illiterate, but a staggering 80% of Macedonians and Bosnians could not read or write. Only 10% of elementary school students went on to high school, but for those that did, they had access to three universities in Belgrade, Ljubljana, and Zagreb. But like the rest of Eastern Europe, college students invariably gravitated towards the humanities and other esoteric subjects.

Yugoslavia - land of ignorants, peasants, bad tolerace directed against non-Serbians, especially Croatians, Slovenes and Muslims. Other minorities didn't had any rights.

That's why Serbia today have ignorant heritage from ex-Yugoslavia, bad education, bad economy, lack of technology and human resources.

The Parliamentary Community now formed a government led by Stojan Protić committed to the restoration of parliamentary norms and mitigating the centralization of the previous government. Their opposition to the former governments program of radical land reform also united them. As several small groups and individuals switched sides, Protić now even had a small majority. However, the Democratic Party and the Social Democrats now boycotted parliament and Protić was unable to muster a quorum. Hence the Parliamentary Community, now in government, was forced to rule by decree.
For the Parliamentary Community to thus violate the basic principle around which they had formed put them in an extremely difficult position. In April 1920 widespread worker unrest including a railway strike broke out and according to Gligorijević this put pressure on the two main parties to settle their differences. After successful negotiations Protić resigned to make way for a new government led by the neutral figure of Milenko Vesnić. The social democrats did not follow their former allies the Democratic Party into government because they were opposed to the anti-communist measures to which the new government was committed.
The controversies that had divided the parties earlier were still very much live issues. The Democratic Party continued to push their agenda of centralization and still insisted on the need for radical land reform. A disagreement over electoral law finally led the Democratic Party to vote against the government in Parliament and the government was defeated. Though this meeting had not been quorate, Vesnić used this as a pretext to resign. His action produced the result Vesnić had intended and the Radical Party agreed to accept the need for centralization while the Democratic Party agreed to drop their insistence on land reform and Vesnić again headed the new government. The Croatian Community and the Slovenian People's Party were however not at all happy with the Radicals acceptance of centralization. Nor for that matter was Stojan Protić and he withdrew from the government on this issue.
In September 1920 a peasant revolt broke out in Croatia, the immediate cause of which was the branding of the peasants' cattle. The Croatian community blamed the centralizing policies of the government and of minister Svetozar Pribićević in particular.

The election was held on 28 November 1920. When the votes were counted the Democratic Party had won the most seats, more than the Radicals—but only just. For a party that had been so dominant in the Provisional Representation that amounted to a defeat. Further they had done rather badly in all former Austria-Hungarian areas. That undercut their belief that their centralization policy represented the will of the Yugoslavian people as a whole. The Radicals had done no better in that region but this presented them far less of a problem because they had campaigned openly as a Serbian party. The most dramatic gains had been made by the two anti-system parties. The Croatian Republican Peasant Party's leadership had been released from prison only as the election campaign began to get underway but according to Gligorijević this far from hindering them had helped them more than active campaigning. The Croatian community (that had in a timid way tried to express the discontent that Croatian Republican Peasant Party mobilized) had been too tainted by their participation in government and was all but eliminated. The other gainers were the communists who had done especially well in the wider Macedonia region. The remainder of the seats were taken up by smaller parties that were at best skeptical of the centralizing platform of the Democratic Party.
The results left Nikola Pasić in a very strong position as the Democrats had no choice but to ally with the Radicals if they wanted to get their concept of a centralized Yugoslavia through, whereas Pasić was always careful to keep open the option of a deal with the Croatian opposition. The Democrats together with the Radicals were not quite strong enough to get the constitution through on their own and they made an alliance with the JMO, the Yugoslav Muslim Organization. The Muslim party sought and got concessions over the preservation of Bosnia in its borders and how the land reform would effect Muslim landowners in Bosnia.
Because the Croatian Republican Peasant Party refused to swear allegiance to the King on the grounds that this presumed that Yugoslavia would be a monarchy (something, they contended only the Constituent could decide) they were unable to take their seats. Most of the opposition though initially taking their seats declared boycotts as time went so that there were few votes against. However, the constitution decided against 1918 agreement between the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and the Kingdom of Serbia, which has spoken about 66% majority that 50% plus one vote will be needed to pass irrespective of how many voted against and it was touch and go whether it would get this. Only last minute concessions to Džemijet – who were a group of Muslims from Macedonia and Kosovo – saved it.

On 28 June 1921, the Vidovdan (St Vitus's Day) Constitution was passed, establishing a unitary monarchy. The pre–World War I traditional regions were abolished and 33 new administrative oblasts (provinces) ruled from the center were instituted. During this time, King Peter I died (16 August 1921) and the prince-regent succeeded to the throne as King Alexander I.

Ljubomir Davidović of the Democrats began to doubts about the wisdom of his parties commitment to centralization and opened up negotiations with the opposition. This threatened to provoke a split in his party as his action was opposed Svetozar Pribićević. It also gave Pasić a pretext to end the coalition. At first the King gave Pasić a mandate to form a coalition with Pribićević's Democrats. However, Pasić offered Pribićević too little for there to be much chance that Pribićević would agree and a purley Radical government was formed with a mandate to hold elections. In Serbia the governing party usually did well and these elections were no exception. The Radicals made gains at the expense of the Democrats but elsewhere there were gains by Radić's peasant's party.
Serb politicians around Radic regarded Serbia as the standard bearer of Yugoslav unity, as the state of Piedmont had been for Italy, or Prussia for the German Empire—a kind of “Greater Serbia”. Over the following years, Croatian resistance against a Serbo-centric policy increased.

In the early 1920s the Yugoslav government of Serbian prime minister Nikola Pašić used police pressure over voters and ethnic minorities, confiscation of opposition pamphlets and other measures of election rigging. This was ineffective against the Croatian Peasant Party that continued to elect a large delegation to the Yugoslav parliament but did harm the radicals main Serbian rivals the Democrats.
Stjepan Radić, head of the Croatian Republican Peasant Party, was imprisoned many times due to political reasons. He was released in 1925, and returned to parliament.
In the spring of 1928, Radić and Svetozar Pribićević waged a bitter parliamentary battle against the ratification of the Nettuno Convention with Italy. In this they mobilised nationalist opposition in Serbia but provoked a violent reaction from the governing majority including death threats. On 20 June 1928, a member of the government majority, the Serb deputy Puniša Račić shot down five members of the Croatian Peasant Party (formerly the Croatian Republican Peasant Party) including their leader Stjepan Radić. Two died on the floor of the Assembly while the life of Radić hung in the balance.
The opposition now completely withdrew from parliament declaring that they would not return to a parliament in which several of their representatives had been killed and insisting on new elections. On 1 August, at a meeting in Zagreb, they renounced 1 December Declaration of 1920. In this they were demanding that the negotiations for unification should begin from scratch. On 8 August Stjepan Radić died.

Croatia was on their knees once again in state of equal rights called Yugoslavia.

Fearing an invasion of the World War II Axis Powers, Serbian Regent Prince Paul signed the Tripartite Pact on 25 March 1941, pledging cooperation with the Axis. Because of Paul's decision, massive demonstrations took place in Belgrade.

On 27 March, the regime of Prince Paul was overthrown by a military coup d'état with British support. The 17-year-old Peter II was declared to be of age and placed in power. General Dušan Simović became his Prime Minister. The Kingdom of Yugoslavia withdrew its support for the Axis de facto without formally renouncing the Tripartite Pact. Although the new rulers opposed Nazi Germany, they also feared that if German dictator Adolf Hitler attacked Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom was not in any real position to help. Regardless of this, on 6 April 1941, the German armed forces (Wehrmacht) launched the invasion of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and quickly conquered it. The royal family, including Prince Paul, escaped abroad and were interned by the British in Kenya.

The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was soon divided by the Axis into several entities. Germany, Italy, Hungary, and Bulgaria annexed some border areas outright. A Greater Germany was expanded to include most of Slovenia. Italy added the Governorship of Dalmatia and more than a third of western Slovenia to the Italian Empire. An expanded Croatia was recognized by the Axis as the Independent State of Croatia (Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, or NDH). On paper, the NDH was a kingdom and the 4th Duke of Aosta was crowned as King Tomislav II of Croatia. The rump Serbian territory became a military administration of Germany run by military governors and a Serb civil government led by Milan Nedić. Nedić attempted to gain German recognition of Serbia as a successor state to Yugoslavia and claimed King Peter II as Serbia's monarch. Puppet states were also set up in Montenegro and southern Yugoslavia.

After all this pressure Croatia got their independence, Serbians didn't wanted to let Croatian human rights, World War II. came:

During the Second World War, the Axis Powers occupied Yugoslavia and the German puppet states of Nedić's Serbia and the Independent State of Croatia were established. Serbs and Jews were subjected to systematic genocide in the territory of the Independent State of Croatia with 307,000 Serb deaths and 35-36,000 deaths of Jews. In addition, an estimated 120,000 Serbs were deported from the Independent State of Croatia into Nedić's Serbia while an estimated 300,000 fled in 1943. In Kosovo, between 70,000 and 100,00 Serbs were sent to concentration camps in an effort to Albanize the area.[69] Serbs largely fought in the resistance movements of the royalist Chetnik movement and the communist Yugoslav Partisan movement. The Chetniks, which increasingly collaborated with the Germans and Italians throughout the war, carried out massacres against the Croat and Muslim population of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Sandžak. The Yugoslav Partisans established a multi-ethnic army that managed to seize control of Yugoslavia and create the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. In the entirety of the war the Partisans in Bosnia were 64.1 percent Serb. Overall, from 1941 to 1945, the Partisans in Croatia were 28% Serb. It is estimated that a total of between 487,000 and 530,000 Serbs were killed in the war.


After this war nothing changed for Croatia, same Yugoslavia was created again, with same goals of Serbians (pressuring of Croatians and other non-Serbian residents and taking they human rights away).


Before that there was a big massacre in Austrian city Bleiburg. Victims were mostly Croatians, they gave all their weapons and they were killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleiburg_massacre



Many of them were civilians, old people:



Videos of Bleiburg massacre:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD0Tx0ZeBo"]Ne zaboravimo - Bleiburg Massacre - In Memoriam - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeqewb63Q_4"]WW2 Croatia - Bleiburg massacre footage. - YouTube[/ame]

British officers helped to Partisans, that's why the capital of Yugoslavia in exile was London, Belgrade never stopped this horrible end of many Croatians:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKymDoAdLzU"]WWII BRITISH OFFICERS IN BLEIBURG MASSACRES part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX6oeEUszhA"]WW2 Massacre made by Partisans in Bleiburg Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6U1iwbuvDs"]WW2 Massacre made by Partisans in Bleiburg Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduL9KK5aHs"]Bleiburg-masovni komunisti?ki zlo?ini - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmvCwa9nPgs"]Komunisticko-partizanski zlocini u 2. Svj. ratu (priznanje Branka Mulica) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icvb9Aufr4c"]Bleibur?ka tragedija - Michael Palaich - Dokumentarni film (2.dio) - YouTube[/ame]

Croatian victims finally found their peace after 50, 60 years. Now they have name and surname.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-kAzhoQehY"]Vrgorac: Pokopane ?rtve komunisti?kih zlo?ina - YouTube[/ame]

http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?cHash=ba98bf4a21&id=48&tx_ttnews[backPid]=38&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=126996

Communist partisan soldier takes picture between dead bodies:

http://hrsvijet.net/images2/povijest/osobe/zlocini_komunista.jpg

Skulls and bones of Croatians:

http://www.srb-akcija.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/komunisticki-zlocini.jpg

New graveyards:

http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Portals/0/images/2011-03-25/AAA/ekshuttmacija_thumb.jpg

Serbian soldiers who killed Croatians:

http://i32.tinypic.com/25r13le.jpg

Reconstruction of Croatians in prisons:

http://www.ljubuski-online.info/images/stories/2011/sumrakpameti/batinama-oltar.jpg

These people let Bleiburg massacre come true:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRSIvMp4r5M2Q8Vegd8JZQIJAH1yYlg7fMUO_s4BxeGJ3IYMbVI

Josip Broz Tito - killer of Croatians has the name on beautiful Zagreb square:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshal_Tito_Square

People are protesting against this name and they want Theater Square.

Testimony of people who survived:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d32OfrgMYxA"]Partizanski zlo?ini na Macelju 1945 - YouTube[/ame]

Secret graveyards:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfe5jVtSCWw"]TAJNE GROBNICE KOMUNISTICKI ZLOCINI U SRBIJI.wmv - YouTube[/ame]

General Brian Robertson gave British troops the order, "All surrendered personnel of established Yugoslav nationality who were serving in German Forces should be disarmed and handed over to Yugoslav forces". Unfortunately for the NDH troops and civilians, he was not to know that the Croatian "surrendered personnel" were not actually under the command of, or serving with, any German forces.

In new Yugoslavia: There were also two established autonomous provinces within Serbia - Kosovo (with an Albanian majority) and Vojvodina (with an Hungarian minority). Besides Serbia, the large Serb populations were concentrated in Bosnia and Herzegovina (where they were the largest ethnic group until 1971) and Croatia, as well as Montenegro (where they were majority until World War II).

Socialist Yugoslavia collapsed in the early 1990s, with four of its six republics becoming independent states. This led to several bloody civil wars, as the large Serbian communities in Croatia and Bosnia attempted to remain within Yugoslavia, then consisting of only Serbia and Montenegro. Serbs in Croatia formed the Republic of Serbian Krajina (RSK) in 1991, and Bosnian Serbs formed Republika Srpska in Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1992, subsequently expelling and killing the Croats and Muslims who lived within the self-declared borders and destroying Catholic Churches and mosques.

Serbians proclaimed Serbian Krajina in Croatia 1991. In that Krajina Serbians came as refugees because they lost all battles against Ottoman Empire. They stabbed Croatians in the back, that's appreciation to them who saved their ancestors. When someone helps you, you should be grateful forever. But Serbians don't think like civilized people. They wanted to create Great Serbia in every places in which Serbians live. No matter how many. One Serbian for them means Serbia.

Quote from earlier history: "A large number of ethnic Serbs migrated in 1530s when Habsburg Ferdinand I offered sanctuary and permanent settlement to displaced Serbs from Old Serbia region (Montenegro, Kosovo, Macedonia, southern Serbia) fleeing from the Turks, placing them under Austrian military administration. The newly established military region was called Militärgrenze or Vojna Krajina. The Krajina Serbs joined the Austrian army, established the hajduk and uskok units that raided and pillaged Turkish settlements across the border into Ottoman Serbia."

Croatian 7th century in Croatia is way longer than Serbian year of 1530, when they came in Croatia, 500 years later they killed Croatians in that territory just because they were Catholic Croatians.

In 1995 the wars ended, with the Croatian army successfully launched two offensives to retake parts of the RSK resulting in a mass exodus of an estimated 150,000–200,000 Serbs, and the Bosnian army working with NATO to capture territory in Republika Srpska, resulting in the Dayton Peace Accords.

Another war broke out in Kosovo (see Kosovo War) after years of tensions between Serbs and Albanians. Up to 250,000 Serbs fled from Croatia during the "Operation Storm" in 1995, and 300,000 left until 1993, and another 200,000 were expelled from Kosovo after the Kosovo War, and settled mostly in Central Serbia and Vojvodina as refugees.

Croatia today: paradise on earth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia

Croatia's economy turned the corner in 2000 as tourism rebounded. The economy expanded in 2002, stimulated by a credit boom led by newly privatized and foreign-capitalized banks, some capital investment, most importantly road construction, further growth in tourism, and gains by small and medium-sized private enterprises.

Croatia has a high-income market economy. International Monetary Fund data shows that Croatian nominal GDP stood at $69.357 billion, or $15,633 per capita, at the same time in 2008 purchasing power parity GDP was $82.407 billion or $18,575 per capita.

In 2009, economic output was dominated by the service sector which accounted for 73,6% percent of GDP, followed by the industrial sector with 20,5% and agriculture accounting for 5,9% of GDP. According to 2004 data, 2.7% of the workforce were employed in agriculture, 32.8% by industry and 64.5 in services.

Croatians can live without artificial puppet states, Croatians aren't peasants what Serbia in Yugoslavia claimed:

The industrial sector is dominated by shipbuilding, food processing, pharmaceuticals, information technology, biochemical and timber industry. Tourism is a notable source of income during the summers, with over 11 million foreign tourists in 2008 generating a revenue of €8 billion. Croatia is ranked as the 18th most popular tourist destination in the world.[80] In 2008, Croatia exported goods to the value of $14.4 billion (FOB) ($26.4 billion including service exports).

Croatia has so far weathered the global financial crisis reasonably well, but faces significant challenges in 2010 largely due to Croatia's external imbalances and high foreign debt, which in longer term presents problems for Croatian financial sector due to higher cost of borrowing to cover current account deficit.

The country has been preparing for membership in the European Union, its most important trading partner. In February 2005, the Stabilisation and Association Agreement with the EU officially came into force and by the end of 2009 Croatia has closed 17 EU accessions chapters, with remaining 16 to be completed by the end of first half of 2010. Croatia is expected to join the EU on 1 July 2013.

Tourism in Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Croatia

Pictures of Croatia: http://www.google.hr/search?q=Croat...a=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBoQ_AUoAQ

Pictures of Serbia: difference is obvious, pictures of Serbia are filled with maps and new plans of expanding and creating The Great Serbia, maps of Serbia are only natural beauty of Serbia, to bad that state of Serbia is shrinking, because no one wants to live them. Region Vojvodina is next who will go away from Serbian borders

http://www.google.hr/search?q=Croat...on.2,or.&fp=52f17b2c0e5cff46&biw=1152&bih=773

This is Serbians main business occupation: this photo is visible in Serbia pictures, bottom.



Serbian region Vojvodina will be soon out of Serbian borders:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vojvodina

This is Serbian best part, northern part, when they lose this region, Serbia will be confirmed as land of peasants.

 

I am not copying. I have also many personal thoughts. Wikipedia is ok source for science work, but not everything. English Wikipedia is more correct than Croatian or any other language.

You really mean that Wikipedia lies about the war in Croatia. Croatia has worse influence than Serbia and yet every information is against Serbia online. I will wrote also about Bosnian Muslims. With this words, that Wikepedia lies, you gave us another proof of your silent propaganda against Croatians and Serbians.

Muslims in Bosnia throw flowers on Serbian soldiers when they saw that Serbia will attack Croatia. Than Serbia attacked Muslims and Muslims ran to ask protection of Croats. Muslims in Bosnia change as the wind blows.

Are you saying also that Youtube videos are also my imagination, Photoshop product??

Can you name one TV station in Bosnia and Herzegovina that has program in Croatian language? Just don't say: "We all understand each other"

Because persons like you, there will never be peace between Croatians, Muslims and Serbians. There is only one truth, not three.

 

Bosnian Muslims or Bosniaks:

Famous Bosniaks: Tvrtko I. OK, let's see his biography, who he is, shall we?

Tvrtko I of Bosnia:

Stjepan (Stephen) Tvrtko I (5 August 1338 – 10 March 1391) was a ruler of medieval Bosnia. He ruled in 1353–1366 and again in 1367–1377 as Ban and in 1377–1391 as the first Bosnian King.
Tvrtko I was an able ruler, and his state included most of Bosnia as well as the neighbouring territories, which included Bosnia, Dalmatia, Croatia and Serbia (Rascia). Tvrtko was a member of the House of Kotromanić. He transformed the country from an autonomous banate into an independent and prosperous kingdom.

House of Kotromanić: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Kotromanić

All members were Roman Catholics, many of them were Croatians and some of them were Serbians.

Only Muslim member of this House converted to Islam by force:

Ishak-bey Kraloglu - this is his false Muslim name, his real name is:

Sigismund of Bosnia, Sigismund Kotromanić. He was one of the last known members of the House of Kotromanić. Sigismund was the son of King Stephen Thomas of Bosnia by his second wife, Catherine of St Sava, the daughter of Stephen, Duke of St Sava. The year of his birth is unknown; it has been suggested that he was between 12 and 14 at the moment of the fall of the Kingdom of Bosnia in 1463 AD, but it has also been suggested that he was only seven. He was raised as a Roman Catholic.[1]
In 1461, Sigismund's father died, leaving the crown to his son from his first marriage, Stephen Tomašević. Sigismund and his younger sister Catherine continued to live with their mother at the court of his older half-brother and half-sister-in-law, Mary of Serbia.

Two years later, the Kingdom of Bosnia was conquered by Mehmed the Conqueror. Sigismund's half-brother, King Stephen Tomašević, was executed, along with their uncle Radivoj and cousin Tvrtko. Sigismund's mother fled to the Adriatic coast and then to Rome, having left his father's sword in the Republic of Ragusa with instructions to preserve it for Sigismund.
However, Sigismund and his sister were taken to Istanbul, where they converted to Islam. Sigismund then became known as Ishak-bey Kraloglu (kraloglu being the Turkish word for a king's son). In 1478, Queen Catherine died having left a will in which she had named Ishak-bey the rightful heir of the Bosnian crown if he converted to Christianity. Ishak-bey never did, remaining a Muslim for the rest of his life. Mehmed the Conqueror was very fond of Ishak-bey, often invited him to dinners and made him sanjak-bey of Bolu. Ishak-bey probably died in Bolu.

His parents are Stephen of Bosnia, or his Croatian name Stjepan Tomaš.
His full title was: "By the grace of God, King of the Serbs, of Rascia, Bosnia, the Seaside, the Hum land, Dalmatia, Croatia, the Western Lands, the Lower Edges, Usora, Soli and the Drina"

Bosnia all the way river Drina were under Croatian rulership. His mother Catherine of Bosnia is also Croatian:

Catholics from the region (mostly Bosnian Croats) often visit her tomb in the Roman church of Santa Maria in Aracoeli. Her tombstone features a life-size portrait with the emblems of the houses of Kotromanić and Kosača to each side. The inscription, originally written in Bosnian Cyrillic, but in 1590 replaced with a Latin one reads:
Catharinae Reginae Bosnensi
Stephani ducis santi sabbae sorori
et genere Helene et domo principis
Stephani natae Thomae regis Bosane
vsori Qvanrum vixit annorum LIIII
et obdormivit Romae anno Domini
MCCCCLXXVIII dei XXV oteobris
monumentum ipsus scriptis positiv.
The memory of Queen Catherine, who was beatified after her death, is still alive in Central Bosnia, where Catholics traditionally mark 25 October with a mass in Bobovac 'at the altar of the homeland'. Some of the artifacts belonging to the Queen and the Kotromanić family were taken in 1871 by Josip Juraj Strossmayer from the Franciscan monastery in Kraljeva Sutjeska to Croatia for safekeeping until 'Bosnia is liberated'. They have never been returned.

Tvrtko I. who Muslims are naming as their own has Croatian, Hungarian, Serbian family. His background is from Croatian noble family Subic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_I_Šubić_of_Bribir

I found another Croatian letter named Bosancica: similar to Glagolitic letter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Cyrillic

Bosnian Cyrillic, widely known as Bosančica, is an extinct Cyrillic script, that originated in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was widely used in Bosnia and Croatia (Dalmatia and Dubrovnik regions). Its name in Bosnian is bosančica or bosanica, which can literally be translated as Bosnian script. Croatians also call it Croatian script, Croatian-Bosnian script, Bosnian-Croat Cyrillic, harvacko pismo, arvatica or Western Cyrillic.

Croatians invented two letters on that space.

It is hard to ascertain when features of characteristically Bosnian type of Cyrillic had begun to appear, but paleographers consider that the Humac tablet (Bosnian Cyrillic tablet) is the first document of this type of script and dates back to the 10th/11th century. Bosnian Cyrillic lasted continuously until the 18th century, with sporadic uses even in the 20th century. Today it is preserved in a Franciscan monastery of Humac near Ljubuški in Herzegovina.

Historically, a few areas of Bosnian Cyrillic had been prominent:
passages from the Bible in documents of Bosnian Church adherents, 14th and 15th century.
numerous legal and commercial documents (charters, letters, donations) of nobles and royalty from medieval Bosnian state in correspondence with Dubrovnik and various cities in Dalmatia, beginning in the 12th and 13th century, and reaching its peak in the 14th and 15th centuries
Hval Manuscript was written in 1404 by Hval Krstyanin in Bosnian/Croatian Cyrillic Script (bosančica or bosanica) in ikavian dialect with a Glagolitic introduction that reads, "in honour of praised sir Hrvoje, duke of Split and the knight of Lower Country and others."
tomb inscriptions on marbles in medieval Bosnia and Herzegovina, chiefly between 11th and 15th centuries
legal documents in central Dalmatia, like the statute of Republic of Poljica (1440) and other numerous charters from this area; Poljica and neighbourhood Roman Catholic church books used this alphabet until late 19th c.
Roman Catholic diecese in Omiš kept the seminary in 19th c., in which arvatica letters were used (called "arvacki šeminarij", "Croat seminary")
liturgical works (missals, breviaries, lectionaries) of the Roman Catholic Church from Dubrovnik, 15th and 16th century (the most famous is a printed breviary from 1520)
the comprehensive body of Bosnian literacy, mainly associated with Franciscan order, from the 1611 to mid-18th century and early 19th century. This is by far the most abundant corpus of works written in Bosnian Cyrillic, covering various genres, but belonging to the liturgical literature: numerous polemical tractates in the spirit of the Counter-Reformation, popular tales from the Bible, catechisms, breviaries, historical chronicles, local church histories, religious poetry and didactic works. Among the most important writings of this circle are works of Matija Divković, Stjepan Matijević and Pavao Posilović.
after the Ottoman conquest, Islamized nobility (that's why also the term begovica, bey's script) used this script along with Arabic, chiefly in correspondence, mainly from 15th to 17th centuries. Isolated families and individuals could write in it even in the 20th century
In conclusion, main traits of Bosnian Cyrillic include:
it was a form of Cyrillic script mainly in use in Bosnia and Herzegovina, central Dalmatia and Dubrovnik
its first monuments are from the 11th century, but the golden epoch covered the period from 14th to 17th centuries. From the late 18th century it rather speedily fell into disuse to be replaced by Latin script
its primary characteristics (scriptory, morphological, orthographical) show strong connection with the Glagolitic script, unlike the standard Church Slavonic form of Cyrillic associated with Eastern Orthodox churches
it had been in use, in ecclesiastical works, mainly in Bosnian Church and Roman Catholic Church in historical lands of Bosnia, Hum, Dalmatia and Dubrovnik. Also, it was a widespread script in Bosnian Muslim circles, which, however, preferred modified Arabic aljamiado script. Serbian Orthodox clergy and adherents used mainly standard, Resava orthography version of Serbian Cyrillic.
the form of Bosnian Cyrillic has passed through a few phases, so although culturally it is correct to speak about one script, it is evident that features present in Bosnian Franciscan documents in 1650s differ from the charters from Brač island in Dalmatia in 1250s.

Controversies and polemic: again three truths about this letter:

The polemic about "ethnic affiliation" of Bosnian Cyrillic started in 1850s and is not settled yet. Without going into nuances and details, the polemic about attribution and affiliation of Bosnian Cyrillic texts seems to rest on further arguments:
Serbian scholars claim that it is just a variant of Serbian Cyrillic; actually, a minuscle, or Italic script devised at the court of Serbian king Dragutin. This general claim ranges from the contention that other nations had been using a form of Serbian script to the idea that all who wrote in Bosnian Cyrillic were ethnically Serb. According to them, all Bosnian Cyrillic texts belong to the corpus of Serbian literacy. Some consider that a strong argument in favour of the Serb side is the fact that there are a lot of mentions of Bosnian Cyrillic as 'Serbian letters' or 'Serbian characters' among Catholics (in Bosnia and Dubrovnik) and Muslims. The main Serbian authorities in the field are Jorjo Tadić, Vladimir Ćorović, Petar Kolendić, Petar Đorđić, Vera Jerković, Irena Grickat, Pavle Ivić and Aleksandar Mladenović.
The Croatian side is split. One school of paleography basically challenges the letters being Serbian. It claims that majority of the most important documents of Bosnian Cyrillic had been written either before any innovations devised at the Serbian royal court happened, or did not have any historical connection with it whatsoever- the Serbian claims on the origin of Bosnian Cyrillic are unfounded, and the script, since belonging to the Croatian cultural sphere should be called not Bosnian, but Croatian Cyrillic. Another school of Croatian philologists acknowledges that "Serbian connection", as exemplified in variants present at the Serbian court of king Dragutin, did influence Bosnian Cyrillic- but, they aver, it was just one strand, since scriptory innovations have been happening both before and after the mentioned one. First school insists that all Bosnian Cyrillic texts belong to the corpus of Croatian literacy, and the second school that all texts from Croatia and only a part from Bosnia and Herzegovina are to be placed into Croatian literary canon (they exclude ca. half of Bosnian Christian texts, but include all Franciscan and the majority of legal and commercial documents). Also, the second school generally uses the name Western Cyrillic instead of Croatian Cyrillic (or Bosnian Cyrillic, for that matter). Both schools mention that various sources, both Croatian and other European (German, Italian,..) call this script "Croatian letters" or "Croatian script". The main Croatian authorities in the field are Vatroslav Jagić, Mate Tentor, Ćiro Truhelka, Vladimir Vrana, Jaroslav Šidak, Herta Kuna, Tomislav Raukar, Eduard Hercigonja and Benedikta Zelić-Bučan.
Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) scholars have always considered the issue to be obvious. Their opinion is that Bosnian Cyrillic is neither Croat nor Serb, but "ethnically" Bosnian and, subsequently, Bosniak, as the supposed ethnic descendants of medieval Bosnia and the native Bosnian Church. The Bosniak academic community has not yet produced a prominent authority in the field of Bosnian Cyrillic studies, due to the national rebirth of the Bosniaks being very recent (since the late 1980s and early 1990s).
The irony of the contemporary status of Bosnian Cyrillic is as follows: scholars are still trying to prove that Bosnian Cyrillic is ethnically their own, while simultaneously relegating the corpus of Bosnian Cyrillic written texts to the periphery of national culture. This extinct form of Cyrillic is peripheral to Croatian paleography which focuses on Glagolitic and Latin script corpora while Bosniaks, although acknowledging Bosnian Cyrillic heritage, have been focusing efforts on investigating Bosnian vernacular literature in a modified Arabic script. The heated dispute on the nature and status of Bosnian Cyrillic is probably destined to remain confined to specialist academic circles.

Answer of Muslims makes me funny, there is no such thing as Bosniak ethnicity. Bosnia and Herzegovina is like Switzerland, Israel, Belgium, or maybe even Spain, multi-ethnic.

Some of oldest Croatian monuments were written on this Bosancica letter:
Poljicki Statut.

Poljica was one of Croatian republics.

Republic of Poljica: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Poljica

The Poljica (Poglizza) Republic or duchy (Croatian: Poljička republika, in older form "Poljička knežija") was an autonomous community which existed in the late Middle Ages and the early modern period in central Dalmatia, near modern-day Omiš, Croatia.
The name poljica stems from the word polje for "field", karst polje in particular, a common geographic feature in the area. The Poljica region was first titled "Republic" by the Venetian writer Alberto Fortis in 1774. It was also known as Poglizza (Italian). It was organized as a "peasants' republic".

The most important reason why Poljica is remembered is a statute from the 15th century. It was first written in 1440, revised in 1485, 1515, 1665, and on several later occasions up to the 19th century, growing to 116 articles. It is today kept in the town museum in Omiš. This document contains a description of the Poljica common law and its system of government, and is the most important Croatian historical legal statute (together with the Vinodol codex of 1288) written in the Chakavian dialect and arvatica (the name appears in the annex of Statute of Poljica from 1655) (poljičica and poljička azbukvica). One of the items of Poljica Statute is that "everybody has the right to live", contrary to many mediaeval European laws replete with punishments including torture. A number of other documents dated from the 12th to 17th century regarding the Republic have been preserved, such as Poljički molitvenik (1614), Statut poljičke bratovštine Sv.Kuzme i Damjana (1619).

Another proof that Croatians were never violent FIRST!

Five of the twelve villages were greatly populated by free peasants from Split origin, and are therefore called free peasant composite villages. The other composite villages were populated by descendants of the three brothers (noted to be founders of Poljica). Each of the twelve villages elected an elder, or little duke (knez), to serve as leader. The little dukes of free peasant composite villages did not share the same rights as little dukes of the other villages—they could vote, but not be elected to the government of Poljica due to their ties with Split.
Documents dating back to the 15th century mention three brothers as founders of the parish commune of Poljica. According to tradition, Tišimir, Krešimir and Elem, sons of Croatian king Miroslav, escaped from Bosnia to Poljica. Each brother is credited to having occupied Upper, Middle and Lower Poljica during the mid 15th century.

Poljica area were also important to Croatian national renaissance on Croatian South, because the votes from Poljica contributed a lot to the victory of Narodna stranka (Croatian unionist party) in 1882 on the elections in Split county, bringing the pro-Croat forces on ruling level.
It since passed to Yugoslavia, and in 1912, the Poljica region was reconstituted as a single municipality. In 1945, it was split again between several municipalities, and remained that way until the present day, when the villages are part of Croatian municipalities of Podbablje and Omiš. [1] Today this area of around 250 km2 (97.6 square miles) is inhabited by around 20,000 people. Recently the Republic was "re-established" as a cultural organization. The reigning prince (veliki knez) is His Highness Petar Rodić.

Poljica Statute:

Poljica Statute is the most important source for Republic of Poljica. Statute determined law of Poljica which is, by its form, style, content and establishment of social-economic relations totally different from the rest of Croatian statutes.
It is written in short, picturesque sentences in which are included norms of Poljica's society from highest political authorities to norms which include interests of all Poljicians. Besides the laws which are written in this statute, Poljica Statute also contents and various decisions and verdicts of authority which are, in few occasions, referred on individuals. From that we can see that Poljica Statute was changed together as was changed society of Poljica. Other important value of Poljica Statute is its archaic form from which it's possible to study people from Poljica at the time and people of Croatia in general. Typical features of Poljica Statute are guarantee of freedom, but at the same time acceptance of responsibility in purpose of protection of Poljica.

Poljica Statute is a document of priceless value. From its matter, except of law, it is possible to study historical, economical, political and other social relations from that time. Poljica Statue was result of wish of people of Poljice for stronger independence from Kingdom of Croatia and Republic of Venice. For that time, Poljica Statute shows a great level of law professionalism and consciousness of society. Earliest script from Poljica Statute from XVI Century is written in Croatian Cyrillic. Statute was written in Croatian language mostly in Štokavian dialect with some parts of Chakavian.

Do you really think that Croatians would wrote with the letter that doesn't belong to them?

Slavs settled in Bosnia, Herzegovina, and the surrounding lands, which were then part of the Eastern Roman Empire, in the seventh century. The Slavic Serbs and Croats settled sometime after the first wave of Slavs. The Croats established a kingdom in what is northwestern Croatia. The Serbs settled in what is now southcentral Serbia, and later expanding into the upper Drina valley of eastern Bosnia and into Eastern Herzegovina, known in the later Middle Ages as Zahumlje. The Croats to the west came under the influence of the Germanic Carolingian Empire and the Roman Catholic Church, and Croatia was closely tied to Hungary and later Austria until the twentieth century. The Serbs to the east came under periodic Byzantine rule, converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity and absorbed Byzantine cultural influences. After some centuries of rule by Croatia, Serb principalities, and the Byzantine Empire, an independent Bosnian kingdom flourished in central Bosnia between the twelfth and the fifteenth centuries.

Name Bosniak which Muslims took came from word Bosnjanin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bošnjani

The generally accepted definition (and the one used in this article) holds that Bosniaks are the Slavic Muslims on the territory of the former Yugoslavia who identify themselves with Bosnia and Herzegovina as their ethnic state and are part of such a common nation.

They think wrong, because they originate from Croatians or Serbians. With this definition of Bosnian and Herzegovina residents Muslims expel Croatians and Serbians and give them a status of minority, what is very funny, because Croatians came first in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbians came second from the South.

Bosnian language doesn't exist. It's Croatian with some mixture of Serbian language and some Turkish words that left in Bosnia and Herzegovina as cultural heritage. Muslims didn't had their language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_language

Shtokavian dialect is Croatian standard dialect. Exists also in Serbia and Montenegro. Muslims from Bosnia and Herzegovina just took that language, because they didn't had any ideas which language to take.

The Proto-Štokavian idiom appeared in the 12th century. In the following century or two, Štokavian was divided into two zones: western, which covered the major part of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Slavonia in Croatia, and eastern, dominant in easternmost Bosnia and Herzegovina and greater parts of Montenegro and Serbia.

"Prescriptions for the language of Bosniaks in the 19th and 20th centuries were written outside of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Probably the most authentic Bosniak writers (the so-called "Bosniak revival" at the turn of the century) wrote in an idiom that is closer to the Croatian form than to the Serbian one (western Štokavian-Ijekavian idiom, Latin script), but which possessed unmistakably recognizable Bosniak traits, primarily lexical ones."

Will you say now that I lie again, and that Wikipedia isn't firm proof for my statements? Muslims took Croatian language. They talk like Croatians, only they have weird accent and use some Turkish words. Muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina don't have their own heritage, that's a main fact. Croatians have heritage in Western parts, Serbians have heritage in Eastern parts. Bosnia was no ones land before, than Croats came first, Serbians second. Muslims are product of islamization of Croatians and Serbians.

Muslims have complexes because of that and now they are starting to change this language so that they can say in the future: "We have linguistic heritage!"

On a formal level, the Bosnian language began to take a distinctive shape in the 1990s and 2000s: lexically, Islamic-Oriental loan words are becoming more frequent; phonetically: the phoneme /x/ is reinstated in many words as a distinct feature of vernacular Bosniak speech and language tradition; also, there are some changes in grammar, morphology and orthography that reflect the Bosniak pre-World War I literary tradition, mainly that of the Bosniak renaissance at the beginning of the 20th century. The legal distinction occurred in the mid 1990s. The 1993 language law declared that there was a single official language for Bosnians: "In the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Ijekavian standard literary language of the three constitutive nations is officially used, designated by one of the three terms: Bosnian, Serbian, Croatian. Both alphabets, Latin and Cyrillic, are equal."

However, the 1994 constitution declared that these were three official languages: "The official languages of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina shall be: Bosnian language, Croat language and Serb language. The official scripts shall be Latin and Cyrillic."

Again, Bosnian language doesn't exist, only Croatian and Serbian.

What a country.

The constitution of Republika Srpska, the Serbian entity within Bosnia and Herzegovina, did not recognize any language or ethnic group other than Serbian. Of course, Serbians protect their language.

Bosniaks were mostly expelled from the territory controlled by the Serbs from 1992, but immediately after the war demanded to restore their civil rights on those territories. The Bosnian Serbs refused to make references to the Bosnian language in their constitution and as a result had constitutional amendments imposed by High Representative Wolfgang Petritsch. However, the constitution of Republika Srpska refers to it as the "Language spoken by Bosniaks"

And yet Muslims threw flowers on Serbian tanks in Eastern Herzegovina, Stolac, so that they destroy Croatians.

Controversy:

The name for the language is a controversial issue, primarily for Croats and Serbs, and as was mentioned above, it is alternatively referred to as "Bosniak" (bošnjački; also spelled "Bosniac").

Of the three Bosnian ethnicities (Bosniaks, Croats, and Serbs) only the Bosniak ethnicity overwhelmingly speak the Bosnian language. The name "Bosnian language" is controversial for those Serbs and Croats who think the name of the language implies it is the language of all Bosnians, which includes Bosnian Croats and Serbs. Croats and Serbs mostly use the Croatian and the Serbian, respectively. It should be noted that all three languages are mutually intelligible and are examples of ausbauspraches. Due to the conjunction of historical circumstances, all are essentially identical due to being codified on the same Neoshtokavian dialect, with a number of people identifying their language as the unified Serbo-Croatian language.

The first grammar of Bosnian was published in 1890. The first dictionary of Bosnian language was published in 1631. (Bosnian-Turkish dictionary).

Here is the proof that Muslims left behind when they created their language, they just took finished language.

Croatian language is official language in 7 countries: Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Austria, Italy.

The beginning of the Croatian written language can be traced to the 9th century, when Old Church Slavonic was adopted as the language of the liturgy.

Another proof that Muslims took Croatian language that existed in Bosnia before, since 9th century. Until the end of the 11th century Croatian medieval texts were written in three scripts: Latin, Glagolitic, and Croatian Cyrillic (arvatica, poljičica, bosančica/bosanica), and also in three languages: Croatian, Latin and Old Slavonic. The latter developed into what is referred to as the Croatian variant of Church Slavonic between the 12th and 16th centuries.

Croatians invented whole linguistic structure on the space of ex-Yugoslavia, others were ignorant. History of Muslims on the space of ex-Yugoslavia is the shortest history.

Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina:

Muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina are a little under three million in number and constitute 40 percent of the country's population (2002 estimate).

In my opinion Muslims are the biggest nation in Bosnia and Herzegovina, because Muslim families have more children than Christian families.

The modern Bosniaks, often referred to as Bosnian Muslims, descend from Slavic speakers who converted to Islam in the 15th and 16th centuries. Bosniaks are overwhelmingly Sunni Muslims. Religion is practiced at a non-intense and relatively low level in Bosnia in general, both among the Muslims and among the other religious groups. The other religious groups are the Serbian Orthodox Church 31 percent, Roman Catholic Church 15 percent, Protestants 4 percent, and others 10 percent.

Historic fact:

Islam was brought to this region by the Ottomans. Turks gained control of most of Bosnia in 1463, and seized Herzegovina in the 1480s. In the centuries after the invasion, a large number of South Slavs converted to Islam by the Ottomans. Bosnia and Herzegovina remained provinces of the Ottoman Empire until the 1878 Congress of Berlin gave temporary control of the region to Austria-Hungary. In 1908, Austria-Hungary formally annexed the region.
Bosnia, along with Albania, were the only parts of Ottoman Europe where large numbers of Christians converted to Islam.
Under Otooman rule, much of what used to be central, eastern, and southern Yugoslavia took on a distinctly Islamic character.

Now another proof how Croatia is more tolerant toward different religion:

Religious leaders from the three major faiths claim that observance is increasing among younger persons as an expression of increased identification with their ethnic heritage, in large part due to the national religious revival that occurred as a result of the Bosnian war. Many Muslim women have adopted Islamic dress styles that had not been common, especially in cities, before the war. Leaders from the three main religious communities observed that they enjoy greater support from their believers in rural areas of Bosnia and Herzegovina rather than urban centres such as the capital Sarajevo or Banja Luka.
In Bosnia and Herzegovina, there are eight Muftis located in major municipalities across the country: Sarajevo, Bihać, Travnik, Tuzla, Goražde, Zenica, Mostar, and Banja Luka. The head of the Islamic Community in Bosnia and Herzegovina is Mustafa Cerić.
Missionary activity is limited but growing and includes a small number of representatives from the following organizations, some of which have their central offices for the region in Zagreb or another European city outside of the country: Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, the Methodist Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and Krishna Consciousness.

Muslims before didn't practice religion so much, like now. They want to demonstrate that Croatians and Serbians are not welcomed in Bosnia and Herzegovina, they build only Muslim buildings, they never build christian churches, but they like to say that all three nations are Bosnians. How come they build only one system and other two must build on their own.

Also Zagreb in Croatia has many centers for Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, the Methodist Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and Krishna Consciousness.

Bosnia and Herzegovina doesn't have these centers, because priests operate from Zagreb and try to enter in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Pure discrimination of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Status of Religious Freedom:

You also said how great is in Brcko, now Wikipedia confirms that. so now you can see that Wikipedia has correct information.

"The State Constitution provides for freedom of religion, and individuals generally enjoyed this right in ethnically mixed areas or in areas where they were adherents of the majority religion.
Religious education in Bosnia and Herzegovina is largely decentralized, as is the education system generally. The canton and entity governments and the Brčko District authorities have responsibility for education; there is no national education ministry or policy. Public schools offer religious education classes, but with the exception of Brcko, schools generally offer religious instruction only in the area's majority religion. In theory, students have the option not to attend, but in practice, students of the majority religion face pressure from teachers and peers to attend the classes."

For example, the Republika Srpska requires Serbs to attend religion classes but does not require attendance for Bosniaks and Croats. If more than 20 Bosniaks or Croats attend a particular school in the RS, the school is required to organize religion classes on their behalf. However, in the rural RS, there is usually no qualified religious representative available to teach religious studies to the handful of Bosniak or Croat students. It is similar in the Federation, where students of the ethnic majority are required to attend religious classes.

Clever, do not bring Islam or Catholicism and these religions will extinct.

either Bosniak or Croat, while the minority is not required to attend. In the Federation's five cantons with Bosniak majorities, schools offer Islamic religious instruction as a 2-hour per week elective course.
Acts of anti-Semitism against the small Jewish community in the country are significantly less frequent than in other parts of Europe. However, Jewish leaders state that there is a growing tendency in the country to mix anti-Israeli sentiment with rare acts of anti-Semitism, as the general public and media often fail to distinguish between criticism of Israeli policy and anti-Semitic rhetoric. Following the 2003 Istanbul Bombings, the Jewish community was quickly granted police security at its synagogues and no incidents were reported.

How can anyone live in that country??

Surnames and names - again Muslims took Croatian and Serbian way to get their surnames.

Bosniak surnames, as is typical among the South Slavs, often end with "ić" or "ović". This is a patronymic which basically translates to "son of" in English and plays the same role as "son" in English surnames such as Johnson or Wilson. What comes prior to this can often tell a lot about the history of a certain family.

Most Bosniak surnames follow a familiar pattern dating from the period of time that surnames in Bosnia and Herzegovina were standardized. Some Bosniak Muslim names have the name of the founder of the family first, followed by an Islamic profession or title, and ending with ić. Examples of this include Izetbegović (Son of Izet bey), and Hadžiosmanović ("son of Osman Hajji"). Other variations of this pattern can include surnames that only mention the name, such as Osmanović ("son of Osman"), and surnames that only mention profession, such as Imamović ("son of the Imam"). Some even mention religion as well such as "Muslimović" ("meaning son of a Muslim").

Muslims just took Turkish names or Arabic and converted them with letters -ic at the end. For example Halil-ovic.

Quite a few Bosniak names have nothing Islamic about them, but end in ić. These names have probably stayed the same since medieval times, and typically come from old Bosnian nobility, or come from the last wave of converts to Islam. Examples of such names include Tvrtković and Kulenović.

King Tvrtko again, last name came Tvrtkovic.

There are also other surnames that do not end in ić at all. These surnames are typically derived from place of origin, occupations, or various others such factors in the family's history. Examples of such surnames include Zlatar ("goldsmith") Kovač ("blacksmith") or Kolar ("wheelwright")

Croatian and Serbian surnames: Kovac, Zlatar, Kolar.

There are some Bosniak names of foreign origin, indicating that the founder of the family came from a place outside of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Many such Bosniak surnames have Hungarian, Vlach or Turkish origins. Examples of such surnames include Vlasić and Arapović.

Many Bosniak surnames are also common as Croatian and Serbian surnames: Puškar, Jašić, Sučić, Subašić, Begić, Hadžić.

First names among Bosniaks have mostly Arabic, Turkish, or Persian roots such as Osman, Mehmed, Ismet, Kemal, Hasan, Ibrahim, Mustafa. South Slavic names such as "Zlatan" are also present primarily among non-religious Bosniaks. What is notable however is that due to the structure of the Bosnian language, many of the Muslim names have been altered to create uniquely Bosniak names. Some of the Oriental names have been shortened. For example: Huso short for Husein, Ahmo short for Ahmed, Meho short for Mehmed. One example of this is that of the Bosniak humorous characters Mujo and Suljo, whose names are actually Bosniak short forms of Mustafa and Sulejman. More present still is the transformation of names that in Arabic or Turkish are confined to one gender to apply to the other sex. In Bosnian, simply taking away the letter "a" changes the traditionally feminine "Jasmina" into the popular male name "Jasmin". Similarly, adding an "a" to the typically male "Mahir" results in the feminine "Mahira".

Muslims in Bosnia took also Bosnian medieval symbol and coat of arms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis

While the fleur-de-lis has appeared on countless European coats of arms and flags over the centuries, it is particularly associated with the French monarchy in a historical context, and continues to appear in the arms of the King of Spain and the Grand Duke of Luxembourg and members of the House of Bourbon. It remains an enduring symbol of France that appears on French postage stamps, although it has never been adopted officially by any of the French republics. According to French historian Georges Duby, the three leaves represent the medieval social classes: those who worked, those who fought and those who prayed.
The coat of arms of the medieval Kingdom of Bosnia contained six fleurs-de-lis, understood as the native Bosnian or Golden Lily, Lilium bosniacum This emblem was revived in 1992 as a national symbol of Bosniaks, and was the flag of Bosnia-Herzegovina from 1992 to 1998. Although the state insignia were changed in 1999 on request of two other ethnic groups (Serbs and Croats), the flag of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina still contains a fleur-de-lis alongside the Croatian chequy. Fleurs also appear in the flags and arms of many cantons, municipalities, cities and towns. It is still used as official insignia of the Bosniak Regiment of the Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Also designers tried to put all three nations in one flag and look how this flag looks: this failed of course



The flag of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina was adopted on November 5, 1996. On the flag, green stands for the Bosniaks and red for the Bosnian Croats. The same goes for the coat of arms, whereon the green arms and golden fleur-de-lis stand for the Bosniaks and the chequy shield for Bosnian Croats. The ten stars arranged in a circle and, although they resemble those on the European flag, represent the 10 cantons of the Federation. The federation is part of the state of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which has its own flag. And they could enter faster in EU if EU sees this stars.
The Constitutional Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina has voted against the use of the current flag of the Federation declaring it unconstitutional. On March 31, 2007, the Constitutional Court placed its decision into the "Official Gazette of Bosnia and Herzegovina" officially removing the flag and coat of arms of Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Also forms of shields are here, Croatian design.

List of famous Bosniaks-Muslims:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bosniaks

Thay have puted one Croatian Catholic as their own:

Ivan Franjo Jukić: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Franjo_Jukić

Ivan Ljubičić, tennis player (Croatian father, Bosniak mother). He plays tennis for Croatia
Darijo Srna, football player (Bosniak father, Croatian mother). Croatian footballer.

Muslims from Bosnia and Herzegovina will never say that they have Croatian or Serbian heritage. They are complicated people and try to push up Bosnian nationality, that doesn't exist. When someone non-Muslim would like to play for football national team of Bosnia and Herzegovina he see very fast how "well" is he accpeted.

Saša Papac: is a good example how can Croatian player from Herzegovina feel the iron hand of Muslim co-players and Muslim coach Safet Susic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saša_Papac

International career: "Papac made his debut on 7 September 2002, against Romania but quit in March 2007, citing problems with the staff at the Bosnian FA. In January 2008, he decided to return to the international set under new boss Meho Kodro. Shortly after Kodro's dismissal, he was called up by new coach Miroslav Blažević but refused to come and retired from international football claiming it was to give space to new young players. However, in 2010 it emerged that Papac could make a return to the national team.[8] In June 2011, Glasgow newspaper The Herald reported Papac was returning to international football. On 1 July 2011, Papac confirmed that he will return to play for the national team. On 10 August 2011, Papac will return to play a friendly match versus Greece in Sarajevo. Ironically, he played his last match versus Greece before quitting the national team in October 2006."

Imagine that, he plays a little, than they pressure him, than he comes back, thane they pressure him again. I don't know why he didn't play for Croatian team. That's why team of Bosnia and Herzegovina will never see EURO or World Cup, because they watch players heritage not his capacity as a player.

For Croatian national team play some players from mixed ethnicity: Dario Srna, Luka Modric, Dado Prso, Milan Rapajic, Robert Prosinecki, Milan Badelj, Ognjen Vukojevic, Bosko Balaban, Aljosa Asanovic, Kujtim Shalla, Arijan Ademi, Anas Sharbini, Ahmad Sharbini, Eduardo da Silva. You can't see this in Bosnian or Serbian national team, others are expelled. Croatia invented democracy in ex-Yugoslavia.

For example Brazilian player Cleo couldn't play for Serbia, even though he played many years for Partizan Belgrade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cléo

Cléo never played any international game for his home country Brazil, and in August 2010, he said that he would like to play for the Serbian national team and is yet up to Serbian coach to give him a call. On 4 September, Cléo applied for Serbian citizenship after meeting with Serbian Minister of Internal Affairs Ivica Dačić. On 23 September, Cléo became a citizen of Serbia.

But he never played for Serbian team.

Italy also has racist problems, for example Amauri:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amauri

What a complicated situation, hard to read all of this, imagine how is live in this situation:

"Following his impressive performances when at Palermo, Amauri was suggested to be a potential call-up of the then Azzurri coach Roberto Donadoni, who stated he might be interested in calling him to the Italian squad. Amauri, who has not appeared at international level for the Brazilian team, would have been indeed eligible in the future to play for the Italian national team because he was eligible to acquire Italian nationality by marriage to a Brazilian-Italian woman; however, according to Italian law Amauri was forced to wait for at least one year from the day of the proclamation of his wife as an Italian citizen, which did not happen before April 2009.
On 31 January 2009, Brazilian coach Dunga selected Amauri, who was still ineligible to play for Italy at the time, as a replacement for the injured Luís Fabiano in an international friendly against Italy. However, a few hours later, in the aftermath of a Juventus league game on the same day, Juventus chairman Giovanni Cobolli Gigli stated the club's intention not to allow the player to respond to the call-up.
On November 2009, Amauri himself confirmed his decision to play for Italy instead of Brazil, following remarks by Italian striker Giampaolo Pazzini who was critical about the possibility of having a non-Italian born player within the azzurri squad.
After receiving Italian citizenship in April 2010, Amauri finally became eligible to play for the Azzurri. Italy was scheduled to play two World Cup warm-up friendlies in June, who would feature players from a 30-men preliminary squad to be announced on 11 May, thus making Amauri unable to be featured in any of such friendly games without receiving a call-up to join such preliminary squad. Marcello Lippi, the Italy coach, said Amauri would be followed like all the other players and no certainly inclusion. Which Lippi did not ruled out a call-up to the foreign born player completely.
He [Amauri] will be followed like all the other players. I am taking this month to evaluate and take decisions that have to be made exclusively for the good of the national team.
–Marcello Lippi 13 April 2010

Lippi later expressed that he had confirmed 18 out of 23 players in his squad to the World Cup, and excluded Amauri from the 29-men squad of the training camp in Rome on 3–5 May. Amauri said he expected his exclusion as there were better players than him that season.
On 6 August 2010 Amauri received his first call-up for the Italian national team, as part of the squad list announced by new head coach Cesare Prandelli for a friendly match against Côte d'Ivoire, the first match after World Cup. He started the match in alongside debutant Mario Balotelli and Antonio Cassano who missed the team for 2 years in a new-look line-up but the Ivorians won 1-0 at Upton Park, London."

Same happened with Mario Balotelli, Italians said that "black Italians don't exist". Similar problems had Fabio Liverani, Matteo Ferrari. Because they have African heritage also. Isn't that sad? And yet one Italian attacked me and said that Croatia isn't democratic country. Whole Italy has interesting problems with immigrants, minorities, Italians behave to them terrible.

Remembered one African man in North Italy, he was selling wooden elephants, small, medium size, he never learned Italian, because nobody cares about him, he only knew how to say: "Ro Africa, Ro Africa"

This means: "Give me one Euro for this elephant, I am from Africa"

He didn't knew how to say Euro, he was using only letters Ro.

Also Italians employ Polish people, Romanians, Bulgarians on the agricultural fields and they never pay them. Italians like to say: "Last names that don't finish with letters: a, e, i, o and u are not Italians"

Italy is the land of "democrazia". In this word I see Croazia. Slovenia and Croatia are best countries in Southern Europe when question of tolerance and human rights exists. Other countries are mostly racist countries, they don't accept difference, multi-religious society. In Croatia you have 7,8 Hare Krishna temples. For a small country that's a lot. Sad to hear that countries in Croatian region don't have same pattern.

It's 21st century after all. Call for democracy is getting louder.

 

Signore Rosso, can you tell us something about Aldo Moro and Brigate Rosso.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldo_Moro

You are funny person, brain washed, and you don't care about your Italian heritage, I think that you are not Italian at all. True Italians are normal, not like you. You are provocative, boring, and you put the same photos twice in a row.

When you are such a acitivista rosso, can you solve the situation in Southern Italy? Also in Northern Italy you have plenty of work with immigrants from Tunis, Ethiopia, Marocco, Algeria, Romania, Ucraine, Belarus...?

They live in a a very bad conditions, they are street wanderers in search for 1,2 euros.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/13/italy-racism-football-mario-balotelli

This red star that you worship killed many Italians in foibe, at least you can respect these victims. You are person without normal functioning, you are attacker, probably you have Che Guevarra T-Shirt, hang out with squatters in empty, ugly buildings. Work something useful. You live in the past, grow up, with these posts I just wanted to say about the situation in ex-Yugoslavia. All nations got their errors, but you have serious issues, you talk like a child:"blah, blah". Are you turned 3 years yet?

As a devoted communist you shouldn't have laptop, or PC, mobile phone, good car, private ownership. But you are not true communist, you are just ordinary worshiper of something that died decades ago. Even when communism existed, everyone laughed to this gatherings. You can visit Kumrovec in Croatia, you will find 10 persons that have 93 years. I will put you here video clips some day. And you are with them??? Che vergogna.

Never asked you this. Do you like Ascoli, Hellas Verona, SS Lazio, or you are a Livorno - grad worshiper?

I remember the friendly match between Italy and Croatia in Livorno, Italian fans from Livorno had Soviet Union, Yugoslavian flags, they went crazy.

This photo with stones is from Slovenian website, not from Croatian.

One Jewish woman wrote PHD disertation about Alojzije Stepinac and she confirmed that he helped to her family and many other people in Zagreb. If you doubt in her own testimony I do't know what can I say. Her name is Esther Gitman, she lives in New York. You can write another disertation that proofs the opposite?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Gitman

You are clueless, you see only what you want to see. you never said a word about Serbian pressures in Yugoslavia, bad economy, they all were peasants.

Serbians like to kill politicians, rulers, in Serbia and abroad, that's in their blood.

Gavrilo Princip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

Punisa Racic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puniša_Račić

Mijailo Mijailović: killed Swedish politican woman Anna Lindh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mijailo_Mijailović

Serbian prime-minister Zoran Dindic killed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoran_Đinđić
Serbians are very radical nation, like you. That's not healthy at all.

Croatia and Slovenia were always democratic nations in that space of ex-Yugoslavia, they always had culture and normal relations.

Just visit Skopje in Macedonia to see how that city is divided, Mostar, Sarajevo are also divided, visit Gay pride in Belgrade.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znp8kTGyRx0"]Police running battles with anti-gay rioters in Serbia - YouTube[/ame]

Zagreb, Croatia is gay friendly city.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bs3frHP710"]Gay Pride Zagreb 2011. - RTL Danas - YouTube[/ame]

This photo: Partigiano vincera is so funny, you forced some minors to hold these silly flags. You are worshiping dead country Yugoslavia, no one cares about her: Croatians, Muslims, Macedonians, Serbians, Montenegrins, Slovenians, nobody. I saw some videos with 10 people who have 90 years maybe, who worship this fallen and forgotten system.

You can see Bleiburg manifestation, there you can see thousands people, members of Croatian Parliament, visitors from diaspora. It's on 14th May every year. You can visit if you like.

Bleiburg 2011:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNmC4lP7AX0"]Nova, Bleiburg 2011. - YouTube[/ame]

Bleiburg 2010:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on57bx7fqlU"]Bleiburg 2010 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_n-Zn4mi0I"]Bleiburg 2010. - govor biskupa Vlade Ko?i?a 1/3 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znCb9cduqKk"]Misa Bleiburg 2010. - ?itanje knjige proroka Ezekiela 37,1-14 - YouTube[/ame]

Bleiburg 2009:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACSZgvBRf_I"]Bleiburg 2009 by CROATIA SALZBURG - YouTube[/ame]

Bleiburg 2008: Look how many Croatians here. End you can find for every year. This land in Austrian city Bleiburg is Croatian land, private possession, Croatians bought that field, so that they can celebrate their victims in peace and silence, like they deserve.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxM7eChScKw"]Bleiburg 2008 - YouTube[/ame]

You are only writing silly paroles, useless sentences that aren't live any more, these sentences won't pay bills, leasing and education, people in ex-Yugoslavia turned the new chapter way before, at least Croatia and Slovenia turned new chapter.

You can see native Tito village and how people gather here: this was Day of Youth 2010, but all of them have like 70. Fists on the head, funny to see. Enjoy.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iZBAF0qhMk"]Dan mladosti, Kumrovec 22.5.2010 - YouTube[/ame]

Tito died before 30 years and they still believe that he is a live. Centrifugal brain wash.

 

If you change something and it's incorrect Wikipedia changes that. Can you provide us the tolerance of Yugoslavia? Did they had Mercedes cars, there is to much information, that everyone can change that. No one cares about changing. I was bored also by reading this texts.

There isn't just Wikipedia, there are some other documents in English.

How can you mad up stuff on Youtube, for example Gay pride in Sarajevo or Belgrade? If Youtube said it's violence, than it's violence, beside that, some videos are from News.

You are a big joke. If Serbians have their own channels, with Serbian reporters, editors, owners, and Sarajevo has Muslim channels, with Muslim journalists, editors, why can't croatians have also their own TV program with Croatian language. Bosnia has 3 official languages, Muslims stole Croatian. Why only 2 languages exists on TV?

Why can't religious groups of Protestant denomination, Hare Krishna live in Bosnia and Herzegovina? They must travel from Zagreb to Bosnia, because no one cares about them.

When you mentioned Canada. Canada has 2 official laguages: French and English, they both have their programs and newspapers, languages in school. You failed in exam of democracy, you are radical person, you hate Croatians and Serbians, Muslims in Bosnia do't know where do they belong. first you sucked up to Serbians, when they kicked you and send you as refugees you turned to Croatians so that they keep you.

When you entered in alliance with Croatia, Atif Dudakovic got victory in Western Bosnia, Bihac. Without Croatians you wouldn't had anything. Croatia accepted you as refugees, gave you shelters, you went in Croatian schools, after war you got back in Sarajevo and other cities. You need to be grateful because someone accepted you. You were destroyed completely in the war, without any exit. And yet USA, Sweden, Canada, Croatia, Germany, Switzerland, Australia..etc, accepted you.

What do you need from UN? Hague? As you don't know everything.

You supported Turkey against Croatia on EURO. You hate Croatians in every sense. Have you seen "FRIENDLY" match between Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, you were so violent, trying to pull the fence down, saying stuff like: "Kill, Kill Croats"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AneKzS0zpQ"]BiH - Hrvatska 3:5 (Neredi na tribinama) - YouTube[/ame]

You are now academic person, when your nation has revolutionary attitude.
This with UN is so funny. Do you really believe that UN cares about our conflict in Bosnia and Herzegovina? They just stood there. Serbian massacre against Muslims could be stopped if foreign troops reacted in time. You are now taking them as a academic source of truth.

You never denied my claims, because you know that they are truth, what can you say, just read and accept in peace, but you still don't give up and you try to pull something out blaming Wikipedia. English Wikipedia is correct source, at least for these historic stories.

As a matter of fact, we don't need Wikipedia or any other academic proof, we all know what happened and how things went. Everything that I have read on Wikipedia for me is correct.

Situations in which Croatians entered in battles are correct. I don't know why you show so much resistance about your nation. You did things wrong. you expected Serbian friendship at the beginning and when they throw bombs on that market in Sarajevo, you said it: oops. How come, we are friends?? Than you realized that you don't have friends in Bosnia.

Than you tried to beat both sides. Optimistic actions if I may say so. Key points in Bosnia and Herzegovina were East Herzegovina, city Mostar, Western Herzegovina didn't had war, but Croatians from that part went in Bosnia to defend Bosnian Croatians.

How can you comment punishments in Hague Tribunal in which one Croatian sentenced to 45 years and in second Tribunal he was free? Lack of evidence I assume.

Tihomir Blaskic was sentenced to 45 years of prison, than he was free and they said some silly punishement that is similar to the time he spend in prison for waiting procedure. He spend 9 years just for start of procedure and they gave him 9 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tihomir_Blaškić

You don't need Wikipedia for that, I remember these numbers. That means that Croatians weren't guilty at all, they defended themselves from Eastern Herzegovina.

Croatian and Muslim people were in Omarska concetration camp. And you need academic proof for that. What a funny man you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omarska_camp

This war in Bosnia was more like guerrilla war and you ask academic proofs. Haha I don't know what to say, Bosnia and Herzegovina is new Yugoslavia, and Muslims are trying what Serbians tried before, Muslims want that everyone say: "I am Bosniak" It's silly, how can Muslim, Orthodox and Catholic be same nation? Spain can't do that, they have similar heritage, except Basque Country, and yet they don't have lyrics in their national anthem, but Serbians, Croatians and Muslims don't now thing in common.

Muslims took Croatian language, Latin letter.
You took our model of forming last names, many of you have last names that are visible in Croatian and Serbian community.
You don't want to accept the fact that you have Croatian or Serbian heritage, because Ottoman Empire came in 14, 15 century and we all lived there centuries ago?

What than, Muslims came out of the sky, aliens, who were immediately Muslims. You took coat of arms of France and their heritage.

You even don't have your own flag, EU made you an flag. You don;t have your national anthem. But you would be happy to see a song from Muslim singer Halid Beslic and yet you emphasize that we are all Bosniak people, without any other ethnicity. You are making yourself funny, not me.

When you have football match, you stand there on field like silly people, don't have words for your anthem, don't know who invented that melody. Your fans don't have songs, they onlt have: "Kill, Kill Serb" and "Kill, Kill Croat". And maybe you have Alleez, Alleez. Artificial national team.

Serbian player Zvjezdan Misimovic boycotted the match against Portugal, he pretend to be injured just so that Croatian coach Miroslav Blazevic can't say: "I unite the Bosnia and Herzegovina". After this match against Portugal Zvjezdan Misimovic played for Wolfsburg. And Blazevic resign from that team.

How can you expect that Croatian or Serbian from Bosnia and Herzegovina supports Bosnia and Herzegovina if you say ugly words against Croatia, that's their motherland, same is with Cyprus. They all like Turkey and Greece.

For Cyprus national team play only Greeks and how can you expect that Turkish people support Cyprus?? Normally they will support motherland Turkey.

You are just pretending to be good, but I ca recognize your words. You care about Muslims only, probably you have only Muslim friends from Bosnia and Herzegovina in real life or on Facebook.

What is your point of view about this war in Bosnia and Herzegovina? I won't ask you academic proofs because I know what happened. Just say your point of view, who is most responsible for that war? Just don't say: "We were all guilty" Someone needed to start.

Who killed Muslims in Srebrenica? Who invented the song: "Knife, wire, srebrenica" or "Noz, zica, Srebrenica"? Croatians?? Or is it someone else?

On what trial in Hague are going women and mothers of victims of Srebrenica? Which criminals are making fun to these women, sending them offensive gesticulations.

Croatians have full co-operation with Hague and Croatian generals are respecting the court. Interesting is that nobody was sentenced in Hague, except this two generals Cermak and Gotovina. But they are waiting second degree and they will be free. Because truth always come out, there are many witnesses about this crimes.

Muslim war crimes against Croatians: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32joKJfl28s"]LASVANSKA DOLINA-MUSLIMANSKI ZLOCINI NAD HRVATIMA SREDNJE BOSNE 3-dio - YouTube[/ame]

Muslim war crimes against Serbian medical nurses in Igman, 1994:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69_ZI_hUcs8"]Muslimanski zlocin nad srpskim bolnicarkama na Igmanu 1994. ? - YouTube[/ame]

Muslim war crimes against Croatians: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bl9XNNt5HU"]LASVANSKA DOLINA-MUSLIMANSKI ZLOCINI POCINJENJI NAD HRVATIMA SREDNJE BOSNE-2Dio - YouTube[/ame]

Muslim war crimes:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZm2A1mHmqQ"]Muslimanski ratni zlo?inci - YouTube[/ame]

Muslim war crimes:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7P4nb-Y6Po"]Muslimanski ratni zlocinci Atif Dudakovic tuzba genocid nad Srbima 30.12.2009. ? - YouTube[/ame]

How come that very little people from Muslim side sentenced to prison in Hague?

One Croatian from Mostar (village Grabovica) in Herzegovina Jozo Brekalo was crusified on the cross, and his head was pulled down and they putted the head on big stick in the near of cross. This happened on 8. and 9. September 1993. Muslims (Armija BiH) asked: "Who are Croats here" and kill everyone. Bodies were placed in river Neretva. Village was blocked very long no body could enter there.

To his wife they pulled out her heart and backed him on the fire. Some Muslim wives went to defend their neighbors and they were also killed.

General Enver Hadžihasanović, Mehmed Alagic and brigadir Amir Kubura were some Muslim war criminals.

Is NY Times suitable for your highness?

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/04/w...icers-face-war-crimes-trial-in-the-hague.html

Is BBC suitable four you?

"The conflict is extremely complex. Muslims and Serbs form an alliance against Croats in Hercegovina, rival Muslim forces fight each other in north-west Bosnia, Croats and Serbs fight against Muslims in central Bosnia."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1066981.stm

Muslims prepared this war very long against Croatians and after against Serbians, you even called foreign Muslim troops from Arab countries to help you. There were many videos how they exercise in forests and training camps.

http://www.balkanalysis.com/blog/20...e-hague-and-bosnian-muslim-war-crimes-part-2/

Muslims were guilty big time in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

 

Politicians, actors, singers liked Tito, because he would invite them on Croatian coast and financed all costs, and that payed people of Yugoslavia, from every nation, people didn't had nothing especially from 1918-1939, than WW2 came, total destruction, after 1945. also sucked, borders were closed, nobody could work abroad until 60s, 70s.

If someone forbids you to leave the country, that's a freedom? Police took passports to many persons, there is no way that you could these passports back if they see you that you have Croatian dreams or if you go in the Catholic Church, or if you don't go on sill manifestations in honor of Partia and Tito. These manifestations were played months, first as exercise than you had your big moment on stadium in Belgrade. People worked for free roads, bridges all in honor of Partia and Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia.

They didn't have any products to buy, they went in Trieste, Graz to but something that has the value. You could see my report about economy in Yugoslavia, everything sucked, no tourism, ports didn't worked, there was no ship buildings, it was big inflation like in Venezuela. They don't have niothing there, only: "Viva La Revolucion, Viva Fidel de Cuba" Silly paroles that they are useless.

Croatia has so much potential, on their coast, as agricultural land .Croatia could be like Austria in 60's, we could export cereals, what ever, open fabrics, export wood. Croatian furniture made of pure wood is so appreciated today.

Parliament in Uruguay ordered Croatian wood. We have great vine, many space for vine roads, vine yards, money would come so easy back than. European economy was recovered after WW2, 70's were great era.

Now we export military equipment, helmets, guns, boots, protection equipment, we developed a machine that cleans mine fields so that nobody dies more. Croatia is till filled with mine, Serbians left them when they were leaving and they were our brothers?? Ha ha.

You know who came to see Tito: Sofia Loren, and some others with questionable moral. Tito had a lot of love affairs, he didn't cared about anything. People were hungry and yet you are putting here communist paroles that destroyed families. Imagine how can someone be stupid to build from stones words: "OUR TITO" while he is enjoying himself around the globe with his lovers, drinking most expensive drinks, buying most expensive clothes. How idiotic, especially if this was during the hot summer times or cold winter.

Compare economy of Yugoslavia and Germany, France. Yugoslavia left behind 30,40 years.

In Yugoslavia during 80's Volkswagen car that looked like frog, or bug was massive attraction.

Yugoslavia had big minus in worlds bank. Banks of Sarajevo and Ljubljana were broken, nodody still got their savings. Imagine that, powerful Yugoslavian national bank. It's easy to worship silly communism from Milano or Genoa.

Communism was worse than fascism. Communism was in Yugoslavia 50 years after WW2, and from 1918-1939 Royal Dictatorship, with only one center, if 4,5 nations are together and have the same rights, why they cant make decisions on meetings. I am not for the solution that Croatians rule, why they couldn't be all equal.

Belgrade was the biggest city, but Croatia and Slovenia were the richest. Why couldn't they answer on key problems.

Shopping in Trieste Ponto Rosso, Italia was so funny, people would buy 2,3 jeans, 2,3 packs of Minas coffee, maybe 1,2 music cassette and they would hide that so that police on the border wouldn't take that. How silly.

In Russia they were hiding that big music plates so that they can listen Beatles or other stuff from that age.

Foreign companies, brands, never came in Yugoslavia. Yugoslavians in Germany eat butter with spoon, they think that this is the way to eat the butter.

They would eat whole banana and they would say: "This outside has terrible taste, but this inside is ok"

People were ignorant, lack of information, technology, they lived like highlanders, bringing wood, gas was so rare. When you wanted to fill your Lada vehicle that was old maybe 15 years, you had maybe 2 has stations in radius of 10 miles. And than when you finally come on gas station, they woyld say to you: "Sorry, no gas". People left the cars on gas station and walked home by foot, so that they don't spend what is left.

People worked all day in the field, dumping potatoes in the earth, even though they had education, but education was useless, Marxist theories, stupid songs in honor of Tito.

Tito always cursed: "Mother of God on TV"

He always smoked that big cigars during interviews, he was ignorant, bad talker, he was ordinary peasant who jumped in rich boots. And they lose themselves in that. People were trying to import cars from Germany, it was forbid. they didn't had malls like today, you had maybe 5 feet big store, you could order today sugar, oil, and wait him for 10 days maybe. Crazy.

That movement that he invented with Nehru, Nasser is useless. Look what is happening in African countries, the same would happen in Yugoslavia if this system could lived until today.

That's why your paroles are funny to me, meaningless, nobody cares about Tito, 10, 20 people maybe comes on this commemorations, nobody from foreign TV stations presents that on TV.

It's enough to see the situation in Bolivia, Cuba, Venezuela, Belarus. People are poor there, they are waiting this revolution and nothing happens, endless speeches, cheap words, euphoria, but after that you can go home, with empty pockets.

TV program sucked back than, you had endless speeches, than after he would finish, other members of Parliament would talk 1 hour how Tito is great persona.

Every type of dictatorship, no matter is it right or left is useless. Croatians accepted Ante Pavelic because everyone was sick of Yugoslavia. At least Croatians. You work all month and you get 2 00000000 Yugo dinars, you could buy very little. Like Italian lira, many zeroes but nothing.

In school they would learn about one hero who found a tree under the roof of his house and he would squeeze the juice from that old tree, he was so strong. Pure lie and pupils read about that, wrote essays.

Coca Cola didn't exist at all. Every kid in world could buy that drink. Costed maybe 30 cents. But in Yugoslavia no, people in Yugoslavia were like idiots, when they would see something new, they didn;t know how to behave, you weren't free, for example lotions that will protect of sun.

People didn't knew how to turn the numbers on the phone, back than there were small holes and you would put your finger and went in circles. That was unknown technology. Stupid nation and all because of politics and communism. You can see how ex-communist countries struggle in communism, they don't know how to work, how to use PC, don't know English. Even now they can work in field or in dusty fabrics.

You needed to worship Drug Tito, people were so brain washed that they had his big pictures in homes, many sill flags, caps, paroles, and they would show you: "Look, what did I buy for my Drug Tito, he would be so happy with this".

When Yugoslavia fall a part in 1990. Zagreb citizens were so happy, before they couldn't listen Croatian songs, they would take radios on central square, bring many batteries and put Croatian music. Imagine that how was that important to them, just to hear something that they couldn't listen for 50 years.

That's why Croatians are visiting Bleiburg field, there you have around 50 000 people every year, people are free now, until 1990 no one could talk about Bleiburg. People lost their children, they wauted them for 50 years. Many of them escaped and left in Argentina, Chile, Australia, Canada, America, they never came back, even though they weren't Croatian soldiers.

In Zagreb 10 000 people are gathered in protest just so that Tito Square name is finally removed. One of most beautiful squares carries the name of person who killed their fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers.

No one who liked Croatia didn't supported Yugoslavia in football. Real Madrid and Spain were popular to support among Croatians in Yugoslavia. Everyone hated that team, at least Croatians, who dreamed about Croatia, there were also Croatian people who believed in that country.

As youngsters they would serve army, not in war, yet in peace for 2,3 years. Now Croatia don't have military service, they have only professional army, who wants to go.

I couldn't say 2,3 positive things about Yugoslavia. If you had money you couldn't buy anything, that has value, if you didn't had money, you couldn't buy anything.

Wall telephone, radio, that silly TV's small, black-white, car, gas, coffee, sugar, oil, chocolate, there were bad suits green, purple, awful colors for males, educations was free, but it sucked, you couldn't apply this "KNOWLEDGE" in any field.

Useless country, useless Drug Tito, his wife Jovanka lives now in poor life, she never worked nothing, without education, Tito was door fixer. lol. What could he know about economy, tourism, or medical care.

There was no dentist also. You could wait until tooth comes out alone or you could went to your neighbor, he would have Schnapps and he would pull you the tooth out.

For example people in Yugoslavia had 3,4 children maybe, 2 wouldn't come through childhood, no medical care at all. Children died from flew, high temperature, mothers died when they got babies, they would get babies in home, in the field, depends where were they. They didn't knew anything about birth control. Everyone would marry with 16, 17 years, marriages were deal marriages, without getting know the person. Especially in 20's,30's.

Women and children didn't had any rights. Teacher could beat you like donkey every day in elementary school, then he could even say to your parents how bad you are, than parents would beat you.

After the World War II, many Croatians and others were killed, just vanished in the middle of the night. This was all the way until 80's. Yugoslavia always invented enemies so that everyone could fear for his life.

When you look Macedonia today, Bosnia, Serbia, mountain parts of Motenegro, this is even today very poor space. Republika Srpska in Bosnia, new state, that no one in the world accepts has nothing, people are poor, Croatians were killed or removed as refugees. Croatians worked in Yugoslavia, they were mobila force for whole Yugoslavia, same as Slovenes.

Croatians and Slovenes are more similar as nation, through their heritage. Also Ottoman Empire destroyed us through 500 years. We could be all happy that we are a live. Religion was question of life or death. Today isn't. You can be today agnostic, atheist, religious fanatic, all options are opened.

Christians needed to accept Islam. It would nice to see how would your family feel under Ottoman boot. And after you could finally survive these 500 years, another system.

You told me, that Croatians were slaves in Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. We were rich back than, had big houses, we traveled, learn German, it was great period for Croatians.

That's why we have good relations with them, Croatians don't care because they entered with banks, companies at least they can ave the money, Sarajevo and Ljubljana bank fall a part, people lost savings.

I have heard that Angela Merkel was in Croatia, George Bush also, before they had silly people form East.

Richard Nixon visited Zagreb in 60's, 70's not sure, and he said "Long live Yugoslavia" and than he said "Long live Croatia". Tito stood there like an idiot, ignorant, had nothing to say, didn't knew English. Just he hear that word Croatia.

USA helped a lot that Yugoslavia falls a part, now Croatia is in NATO and no one can attack Croatians anymore. We were always in some battles, alliances, enough more.

I hope also that Serbia won't enter in EU, so that they could left outside EU borders forever. To do such thing, to enter in Croatia to kill people, in cooperation with Muslims, that sucks, after that we were all killing each other.

Muslims attacked Croatians first, Serbians attacked Slovenes, than they attacked Croatians, after that Serbians attacked Muslims. Croatians didn't tarted that war, Croatia only wanted freedom, their country, because we can survive alone, we don't need Serbia, or any other country.

Croatians are bright as a nation, we have instincts to survive. Serbians afraid against us after they saw how are we progressing, before they had all weapons, they killed us all the time, children, old people, journalists, they told: "Journalists had cameras that reminded on heavy weapon"

They pulled out eyes, noses, heads, ears, fingers, legs, to people, cattle, dogs, cats, raped women, men, cattle, Serbians are crazy people, true savages, heavy drinkers, destroyed Catholic Churches, Muslims are also violent.

In that region nobody can't stand Serbians, they now try to attack Kosovo, Albanians n Kosovo are majority, why couldn't they ask for independence.
They were more behind on Serbian list. Albanians suffered a lot, maybe more than Croatians. Italy was for Albanians everything, they tried to swimm that small part, Otranto I think, escape in Bari, also in Southern Italy there is some Albanian dialects.

Nobody had TV in Albania. When news would start on TV, reporter would say: "Good evening Mr. President". Enough said about communism. Because of these reasons I think that communism is useless.

I expected someone from that ex-Yugoslavian space to defend communism, but you, Italian, big surprise for me. I thought that Italians are open minded, like to enjoy in life, and that they don't want to think about something that is useless.

Why do you like communism? What can he bring good to every human being?
Do you have Yugoslavian heritage? You sound like you do have something from there, well informed, communism lover.

Tito killed their own people, that's why Croats don't like him, they would expect something like that from Serbians. In Partisans there were many Croatians that killed Croatians in their homes, stealing cereals, cattle, If you would said: "please, I don't have anymore", Partisans would say: "OK, give me double than"

Every pure Croatian lost 2,3 members of their family after World War II. And they were killed of Yugoslavians (Croatians). Pure Serbians also didn't liked Yugoslavia. But during Yugoslavia Croatians never had any problems with Serbians, but Partisans, they were mostly Croatian politicians from the Norther Croatia. Three politicians had nickname Joža. All named Josip. Pure Croatian names who killed Croatians mostly.

Croatian Helsinki Committee pulled big dust against communists, now we all know their names, how did they participated, they will probably be in prison. They have send many people into death. One went crazy, he is in mental institution, having problems with conscience. It's not easy to kill many innocent people, pure executions without trials, now this hunts them.

I read online about graveyards almost every month, 2000 bones, 5000 skulls, 1000 skulls were found, civilian clothes, Croatian soldiers, Italian soldiers, German soldiers. Marks on their uniforms are visible.

Interesting, Italian fascists and Nazi Germans never killed any Croatian who wanted Independent State of Croatia. Foreigners won't kill you, but your paisani would kill you like a dog in the field. That's why Croatians have great antagonism between themselves.

President Tudjman tried to motivate that we all forgive each other, in Croatia, diaspora. Diaspora is very important member in Croatia, because they helped a lot during the war, gave a lot of money. That's why we love to say that Croatia has 9 millions of Croatians, 4,5 inside of Croatia, 4,5 outside of Croatia.
After three, four generations outside of Croatia they are always Croatians.
Many famous Croatians outside of Croatia visited Croatia, like John Malkovich for example.

In Croatia is opening many schools for diaspora Croatians, that can come there and learn Croatian, even though their grandparents were born outside of Croatia.

This is the list of notable Croatians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Croats

Interesting, in Yugoslavia they were all meaningless, but in diaspora Croatians are always at least upper middle class, experts in all kind of fields.

Diaspora Croatians they all left outside of Croatia because of politics or economy. If you had politics, with Josip Broz Tito, than economy can only be worse. One can't go without other.

During Yugoslavia Croatian diaspora was forgotten, they couldn't vote, nobody knew how many Croatians live around the globe. That's a silly politics, without any rights, people didn't come in Croatia after World War II, all the way 1990.

 

You came first here, if something doesn't like to your eyes, you can press X.
Croatians here on forum have unique conclusion that you are propaganda teller, lover of seeing the truth with different glasses. Truth is only one.

Croatians never attacked Serbian cities.
Croatians never destroyed Orthodox Churches or mosques.

Croatians did destroyed (Stari Most) Old Bridge in Mostar, so that we stop Muslims from entering in Western Mostar, where Croatians live.

To be honest, I find boring to find online about this stuff, but obviously Croatians, Serbians and Muslims aren't ready for brighter future. To tell you the truth, I don't even care about mutual friendship. I always knew that this is impossible.

Everyone who hates your country, heritage, who burns your flag and I saw Bosnian Muslims and Serbians who burned Croatian flag. How can you plan the future who hates everything that you like.

You supported Turkish team against Croatia. I don't mind about that, Turkish players gave their heart on that match, 120 minutes, these moments take a lot of patience. But you destroyed caffe-bars in Mostar, throw chairs, bricks, stones, you entered in Western Mostar.

Croatia doesn't need Bosnian Muslims or Serbians. On Australian Open Serbians made provocations on tennis matches, demonstrating how primitive they are, in match against Malmo, Serbians entered as Malmo fans and yelled Kill Kill Dinamo.

For example I don't even know in what phase of football are Serbian and Bosnian clubs. You demonstrate your hate against us.

I don't care who will win, or lose of these clubs: Zeljeznicar, Partizan, but I sure won't go and support their opponents, that's ridiculous and pressuring.

I have my own national team, my Croatian club that I like, many foreign clubs that I like to watch and find out about their scores and plans for the future.

I live in peace with myself, haven't lost nobody in that horrible war. I just wanted to make analyze about Croatian players in Yugoslavian team. So that everyone see that Croatia isn't some new country on football map.

I never visited Serbia or Bosnia, never been in Belgrade or Sarajevo. I don't have desire to visit these cities, have nothing to see there, they are very distant. And I know that I am not welcomed there. It would be interesting to come in Sarajevo or Belgrade with Croatian national team uniform. I would probably get some gifts: verbal or physical.

I have my own country, when I'm in Croatia I feel great, feel relaxed and safe. That's the price that I would always pay. Also I never felt Yugoslavian lifestyle, haven't lived in these weird 50s, 60s, 70s, but I have heard many funny stories about Yugoslavia, people eat butter with spoon, and they eat whole banana, thanks to politics of brain washing and lack of information, modernization.

Serbians and Muslims in Bosnia are always against Croatia. I met some members of these nations, but friendship is impossible, you have always themes that you can't touch.

With Serbians you can be friend only if he is superior. That's a fact, Muslims felt that to. You should supported Croatians during the war, you have Croatian historical heritage, you gave us support 1995., when everything was to late. With Croatians by your side Srebrenica would never happened, because we don't leave our friends unprotected. We are that kind of people. We don't have bad intentions, everyone tried to use us, wanted our territory, killed us, we killed them, we even fought against Mongolians. Now you will say that we attacked them in Ulanbator. But we have maybe 2,3 defeats in our whole history. We had near of 100 battles maybe. Also we fought for others.

Croatian enemies had one warrior quote:

"God save us from plague, hunger and Croats".

We are not so bad, but everyone touches us, or sends us in their own battles.

Territorry of Croatia is one of best European positions, strategic, merchant, touristic roads. Croatian capital Zagreb is between: Trieste, Venetia, Ljubljana, Koper, Rijeka, Graz, Vienna, Budapest.

Zagreb always attracted people of every ethnicity. I know some Serbians that told me, that studying for them in Zagreb was unique experience, they lived in Belgrade, bigger city than Zagreb, have also many beauties, but for them Zagreb was something special.

Our coast is unique; only Greece ad Norway have similar coast in Europe. This coast helped us in navy battles, we were everyone desire: Venice, Italians, Austrians, Roman Empire, Hungarians, Germans, Serbians, Ottoman Empire, and many other nations that no longer exist.

Croatians are tired of wars, we dreamed our freedom for 1000 years. We always thought that it would be better if we enter in some alliance, monarchy, republic, kingdom. Only Austro-Hungarian Monarchy was great for Croatia.

Wars are useless as you can see. Muslims attacked Croatians, you lost great part of Bosnia that now belongs to Serbia. But even this state Republika Srpska isn't accepted in the world, UN, EU. Poor country, nothing to add, has a provocative president, who hates Muslims, he told that Sarajevo looks like Istanbul, because of to many mosques. He became a populist, makes jokes, laughs a lot. They got Republika Srpska, but they lost Kosovo. Croatia won in Croatia, Serbia won in Bosnia, but Croatians still have Western Herzegovina and some parts of Middle Bosnia. You see it's useless to enter in wars. But many of these sides are still educating children to hate each other. Collective change of opinion is desirable.

Croatians don't have nothing in Bosnia on Croatian language. We understand each other, but if you can have TV, Radio stations, Croatians also can have that. I don't know Cyrillic letter, why should I learn, I am of Latin letter heritage.

Croatia was eternal giver to all nations with Slovenia. Now look how everyone lives without us. Children push car tires, they don't have friends, cities are divided, no money, no perspective, education, jobs, they live like refugees in many parts of world, they never learned these foreign languages as they should.

They again find people form their country, again tell the stories against others. Finally we are all free, Croatian and Slovenian money won't disturb you any more. We lost the most during Yugoslavia, Eastern Croatia was destroyed in the war, Montenegrin people throw bombs on Dubrovnik, ancient walls.

Dubrovnik:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE0pHt6L6yE"]Domovinski rat - Napad na Dubrovnik - 1/2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF0y04LlNJ0"]Domovinski rat - Napad na Dubrovnik - 2/2 - YouTube[/ame]

Today this city is one of the most popular touristic destinations in the world. Serbians promised to Monteegrin people that they will get this city. But Croatian pride was brave and stayed inside of Croatian borders.

One of legendary Croatian war videos: Red car Fiat

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1oMYfSsOl4"]Crveni fi?o (Osijek, 27.06.1991.) - YouTube[/ame]

Attack on Zagreb:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qjllba4hDQ"]Napad na Zagreb 16.9.1991 - YouTube[/ame]

Attack on Slavonski Brod:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8r7kifNKow"]Napad na Slavonski Brod - YouTube[/ame]

Attack on Sibenik:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pke9ZWNxzew"]Napad na ?ibenik 16.9.1991 - YouTube[/ame]

Vukovar City: first city after Croatian-Serbian border, destroyed completely.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaHm7a5QXgw"]Vukovar 1991 pad grada - YouTube[/ame]

Special Serbian assignment to destroy Croatian ethnical heritage.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11CDGvfVBng"]Vukovar Domovinski Rat 1991 - YouTube[/ame]

Croatia asked for help of the world in every way; through song:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVklBX4f4Z0"]Stop the war in Croatia - YouTube[/ame]

This singer passed away in car accident.

Almost nobody didn't helped to Croatia, Croatia was on her knees for almost 4 years, almost defeted, because Croatians didn't had any weapon. And than Croatia finally bought weapons and in 3 months we destroyed Serbians. Since May until August 1995. And now they try to forbid us of celebrating the 5th August as day of our victory. Serbians celebrate their lost victories. In these cities ruled ancient Croatian kings: Zvonimir and Kresimir, with many other ban and knez leader figures. And they wanted to destroy our heritage. Knin is city of king Zvonimir, Sibenik is the city of Petar Kresimir IV. Our historic Dalmatian cities. Pure intention to destroy these names and settle in these cities.

Flash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Flash

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmM8xYu1_9U"]Operacija Bljesak - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ta0hCvUf38"]Operacija Bljesak - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT_RJESoGVI"]Operacija Bljesak (1. svibnja - 4. svibnja 1995.) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGrriPX9xRc"]Operacija Bljesak 2dio - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P25il4ptbs"]Operacija Bljesak 3dio - YouTube[/ame]

Storm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2UWJBDW4so"]Operacija Oluja-Slunj - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-zknxa5xGs"]Tkz. Republika Srpska Krajina uo?i vojno - redarstvene operacije Oluja - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wmS4MEcx2A"]Oluja 1995-2005 Hrvatska Operacija -HQ- - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eEKWg_IlhQ"]Operacija Oluja-ulazak hrvatskih snaga u Knin - YouTube[/ame]


Chronological, like real storm, first you see flashes than storm comes, elegant and quick.

And 15 years after the war, Muslims and Serbians are pretending that aliens attacked us. At least you could say: sorry and don't write cheap propaganda on forums and sill words like: "I won't read Carelinos words".

Nobody asked that from you. You have your leftover country and enjoy in her. Why did you ran away so far?

Bosnian Muslims are never direct, that's your main characteristic, you are always scared and pretending to be good and nice. You asked for friendship in Serbian arms and than they kick you. After that you ran in Croatian arms. You don't have heritage, having problems with accepting that you were ex - Croatians from the past, that is eating you inside.

You took Bosniak nationality, Bosniaks are medieval residents of Bosnia = Croatians or Serbians on the east, but they were always Serbians. You took our king Tvrtko I., you took our language, our letter, our model of surnames.

What do you have? Nothing. Western parts of Bosnia and Herzegovina were always Croatians, eastern parts were Serbians.

You never accepted Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, thats why many Muslims fled in Turkey. You hate Christians, but you were Christians before 300, 400 years. That means that you hate your heritage and history.

Croatians could have better relations with Serbians than with Muslims, because you are big mystery for us, we don't know who do you like, but this war revealed that you don't like Serbians and Croatians.

You are just looking for your interest.

 

Check on Wikipedia. You told me that Wikipedia lies. You don't have to be here, theme is completely different. It's about Yugoslavian football and maybe football of these modern days. If you want to talk about this, you can write, but about ethnical conflicts you don't need to spend words. You have your own truth, that doesn't match with mine. Videos and texts can prove everything and British Wikipedia is reliable.

 

One of the famous Serbian actors:

Pavle Vuisic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Vuisić





Photo Session:

 

Famous Croatian actor:

Ena Begovic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ena_Begović

 

Serbian footballer:

Sasa Curcic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saša_Ćurčić



Mixed ethnicity: Croatian father, Serbian mother

Dino Drpic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Drpić

"Married to Playboy model and former singer Nives Celzijus, whose revelations in her autobiography, The Naked Truth, led to Drpić being kicked out of Dinamo. While on holiday in Krk in the summer of 2008, a British couple tried to kidnap their son Leone after mistaking him for Madeleine McCann."





He demonstrated this action against Hajduk Split fans. Because of that he was kicked from one bar on island Brac in Dalmatia. His father was born on this Dalmatian island. Kicked from his fathers native territory. Violent behavior, gambling problems.

http://www.mojnet.com/video-dino-drpic-pokazuje-guzicu/f705cea3cc14c036c261

 

Serbian wife of Dino Drpic: Nives Drpic Celsius Zeljkovic



Her Serbian father: Spaso Cankovic, his spiritual name Anej Sam.





He had many court conflicts with his daughter, she accused him as a molester.

 

Serbian famous Orthodox priest, "spiritual leader":

Momcilo Dujic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momčilo_Đujić

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Momcilo_djujic.jpg

Momčilo R. Đujić (Serbian Cyrillic: Момчило P. Ђујић ; February 27, 1907 - September 11, 1999) was a World War II Serbian commander in the Chetnik movement. He was initially an Orthodox priest, that after the assassination of the Yugoslav King joined the Chetniks, later commanding the Dinaric Division (Dinarska Divizija) during the Second World War, with the title of Vojvoda (Duke).

Serbian rebel in Croatia who had a dream of Great Serbia way before World War II:

Đujić was born on 27 February 1907 in the village of Kovačić near Knin in Croatia, to father Rade and mother Ljubica, of Bosnian Serb origin. The eldest child of the family, he grew up with four siblings - brothers Glišo and Boško, and sisters Mara and Ilinka. His primary education was completed in Knin. Đujić started secondary school in Šibenik, but left school and went to the Serbian Orthodox seminary in Sremski Karlovci, Serbia graduating in 1931. He was assigned to the Orthodox parish near his birthplace, where his passionate sermons won him the nickname of "Father of Fire" (Pop vatra).

As an Orthodox priest, Đujić's first congregation was in the town of Strmica near Knin where his two sons and his daughter were born. Following the 1934 assassination of Yugoslav King Alexander and in anticipation of future ethnic conflict, Đujić met Serbian paramilitary leader and Chetnik movement president Kosta Pećanac. With aid from Pećanac's movement, he organized and began to arm 11 Chetnik bands in his region prior to the outbreak of the Second World War. He later said: "I knew that the country would not survive, because nobody can put Serbs and Croats in the same bag".

Even he saw that, that Croatians and Serbians don't belong together.

Beautiful and optimistic flag of radical, nationalistic Chetnik Movement:



The flag reads: "For king and fatherland; freedom or death"

Fatherland for Serbians is Serbia, and they created this flag in Yugoslavia.

The Chetniks or the Chetnik movement or Yugoslav Army in the Fatherland (Serbian: Четници, Četnici,Turkish çete pronounced [tʃɛ̂tniːtsi]) were a Serbian nationalist and royalist paramilitary organization operating in the Balkans before and during World Wars, mostly known for their participation in the Yugoslav Front of World War II.

Royalist - before World War II, Yugoslavia was Royal country with Serbian king as ruler of Serbia. This is a evidence that Yugoslavian royal family had never respected Croatian or other non-Serbian residents.

The movement formed in 1941 was initially named the "Chetnik Detachments of the Yugoslav Army" (Četnički odredi jugoslovenske vojske) and was later renamed into the "Yugoslav Army in the Fatherland" (Jugoslovenska vojska u otadžbini, Југословенска војска у отаџбини; JVUO, ЈВУО), though the original name remained the most common in use throughout the war, even among the Chetniks themselves. In 1941, the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was defeated by Germany and occupied by the Axis powers from 1941 to 1945. Chetnik's were the first resistance movement to be formed.

Sneaky plan of Chetnik movement: they renamed Chetnik detachments in Yugoslav Army, so that the world thinks how they tried to protect Yugoslavian artificial country. They equalized radical Chetnik movement with antifacism.

The Chetniks were never a homogenous ideological movement; some groups were implacably anti-German and sided with the Partisans in joint battles. An example of Chetnik coalition with the Partisans notably took place on September 28th, 1941 in Takovo and resulted in the first act of surrendering by a German garrison in the Second World War. Whilst others actively collaborated with the German and Italian occupation forces in order to fight Communist Partisan, or rival Chetnik groups.

They sat on two chairs during whole World War II.

The word, "chetnik", introduced in 1909, was used to describe a member of a Balkan guerrilla force.

Another proof: Chetnik movement was created way before World War II as true desire of forming Great Serbia. Yugoslavia was Great Serbia, they just changed the name. Non-Serbian residents never decided about anything.

In 1904 the organization known as the "Serb Chetnik Movement" (Српски Четнички Покрет) was formed in Vranje by the Saint Sava organization, by members of the army and representatives of the ministry of foreign affairs, among whom was Dr. Milorad Gođevac, Vasa Jovanović, Luka Ćelović and general Jovan Atanacković.

They had a dream of Great Serbia 40 years before World War II. Saint Sava is main Serbian saint.

The dream has started: The aim of the movement was liberation of Old Serbia and Macedonia. Serbia started equipping Macedonian Serb Chetniks who were in conflict with the autonomist and pro-Bulgarian Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization (IMRO).

Desire for other territory:

The Macedonian Serb Chetniks from 1904 till 1908 created strongholds in Skopje and Prilep regions after several battles against the Turks and the IMRO, but could not extend their territory due to the IMRO presence in the other parts of Macedonia. The most prominent Chetniks of Macedonia were Jovan Babunski, Gligor Sokolović, Ilija Trifunović-Birčanin, Mihailo Ristić-Džervinac, Jovan Grković-Gapon, Vasilije Trbić, Garda Spasa, Borivoje Jovanović-Brana, Ilija Jovanović-Pčinjski, Jovan Stanojković-Dovezenski, Micko Krstić, Lazar Kujundžić, Cene Marković, Miša Aleksić-Marinko, Doksim Mihailović, Kosta Milovanović-Pećanac, Vojin Popović-Vuk and Savatije Milićević Milošević.

After the proclamation of the Young Turk revolution in 1908 and the proclamation of the constitution, all of the brigands in Macedonia, including the Serbian Chetniks put down their weapons. - another Serbian battle was lost. Will they ever win?

This period lasted until 1912, when the Balkan countries once again started arming guerrilla bands in Macedonia in order to help them in operations against the Ottoman army. At the start of the Balkan wars there were 110 IMRO, 108 Greek, 30 Serbian, and 5 Vlach detachments. They fought against the Turks in the First Balkan War, while in World War I they fought against Austria-Hungary.

They never liked Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, because this was the lad of laws, development, architecture, democracy, that's why Serbian Gavrilo Princip killed Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand. They couldn't stand to be outside of government. They wanted to rule with others. Puzzle is getting clearer about true Serbian intentions - wars, battles and taking territory.

In World War I bands of Chetniks fought against the Bulgarian Army and organized the Toplica Insurrection, which was quickly crushed by the Bulgarians with assistance of the Ottoman Empire. - another great defeat. Will they ever win? To much Schnapps obviously, hard to aim.

After the formation of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (later Kingdom of Yugoslavia) and the arrival of peacetime, the Chetnik movement ceased functioning as a guerrilla force, and became a civilian organization.

Another sneaky plan; when they got artificial kingdom, they proclaimed Chetnik movement as legal instance with civilian mark. They got the kingdom now, why should they represent their true face.

"In 1921 the Organization of Chetniks for the Freedom and Honor of the Fatherland (Udruženje Četnika za slobodu i čast Otadžbine) was formed, and in 1924 the Organization of Serbian Chetniks for King and Fatherland (Udruženje srpskih četnika za Kralja i Otadžbinu), while the formation of the Organization of Serbian Chetniks Petar Mrkonjić (Udruženje srpskih četnika Petar Mrkonjić) also followed. These latter two merged together the following year as the Organization of Serbian Chetniks Petar Mrkonjić."

In Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes?? exists special division of Serbian Chetnik? How come? If we were all equal. Why did they wanted freedom, they got everything: Great Serbia, Serbian king, Serbian Royal family, non-Serbian residents as peasants. In Austro-Hungarian Monarchy Croatians were elite members of that Monarchy, Otto von Habsburg always loved Croatia, he asked also honorary citizenship of today's Croatia. In Austro-Hungarian Monarchy Croatians studied in Vienna, Prague. Founders of Croatian football club Hajduk were Prague University students. We knew foreign languages. In Yugoslavia there was nothing, first TV station in Yugoslavia was founded 1956 in Zagreb. Again Zagreb wanted to modernize Yugoslavia.

Otto von Habsburg received: Grand Cross of the Grand Order of King Dmitar Zvonimir (1996) - Croatian king. In this link under it's visible that Otto von Habsburg has dual citizenship, Croatian and Austrian flag. We didn't gave any award to any member of Serbian country. How come? After all we were all brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Order_of_King_Dmitar_Zvonimir

Otto von Habsburg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Habsburg

After the unitarianist King Alexander I proclaimed a dictatorship in 1929, the Organization of Serbian Chetniks Petar Mrkonjić was banned while the Organization of Chetniks for Freedom and Honour of the Fatherland was allowed to continue operating. Kosta Pećanac was the organization's leader from 1932 up to the occupation of Yugoslavia in 1941.

Again Serbian Royalty putted democracy and human rights in the Recycle Bin.

Yugoslav Front: Croatian defeat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Front

Invasion of Yugoslavia: Partisan defeat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Yugoslavia

In April 1941 the Germans and Italians invaded Yugoslavia leading to the swift collapse of the Yugoslav state and the surrender of the Yugoslav army. Many Serbian detachments refused to surrender and took to the hills. The Chetnik tradition of paramilitary activity and outrage at Ustaše atrocities quickly attracted recruits to the Chetnik banner. The pre-war Chetnik leader Kosta Pećanac soon came to an arrangement with Nedić's collaborationist regime in Serbia but Colonel Draža Mihailović set up his Chetnik headquarters in Ravna Gora and established contact with the Allies. It is these forces that are generally referred to as the Chetniks during World War II although the name was also used generally for other smaller groups. In June 1941, following Operation Barbarossa the communist Partisans under Tito organised an uprising and in the period between June and November 1941, the Chetniks and Partisans largely co-operated in anti-Axis activity.

Chetniks were ready for battle against Croatians.

Chetnik leaders conducted a number of operations against Axis forces, some jointly with the Partisans. However, by September 1941 Mihailovic was advocating postponement of military action against the Germans, in contrast to the significant number of actions organised by the Partisans. According to Mihailovic the reason was ??humanitarian??: the prevention of German reprisals against Serbs at the published rate of 100 civilians for every German soldier killed, 50 civilians for every soldier wounded. Nevertheless, in December 1941 the Yugoslav government in exile in London under King Peter II promoted him to Brigadier-General and named him commander of the Yugoslav Home Army. That same month the Germans launched an attack on Mihajlovic's forces in Ravna Gora and effectively routed the Chetniks from Serbia. The bulk of the Chetnik forces retreated into eastern Bosnia and Sandžak and the centre of Chetnik activity moved to the Independent State of Croatia, a Nazi puppet state.

Another proof of Serbian Royal family, they promoted Chetnik leader Draza MIhailovic and named him commander of the Yugoslav Home Army.

How Chetnik leader who is against non-Serbian residents can protect Yugoslavia?? I don't get that.

Again Chetniks lost on Ravna Gora. Chetnik movement still lives, in 21st century, they celebrate every year that lost battle, how would they celebrete if they won this battle, manifestations of Croatians in Austrian Bleiburg sounds much better than this tribal and agresive meeting:

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New leader of Chetnik Movement is Mileta Pavicevic. Who are their enemies now? Obviously they are protecting Serbia as they ever did.

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Chetnik reunion 2010:

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Other videos of celebrating human rights on Ravna Gora (Straight Hill):

http://www.google.hr/search?rlz=1C1...4Q_AUoAg&fp=7cef8f96605b2cb9&biw=1152&bih=773

Some beautiful photos of Chetnik movement today, main symbol of peace is kitchen knife:

http://www.google.hr/search?q=CETNI...a=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CDAQ_AUoAQ






Does EU see this photos?

Chetnik (Serbian) movement in Bosnia, place Manjaca:

http://vijesti.gorila.hr/var/mojpor...em_srpske_pravoslavne_crkve_u_bih_tabfull.jpg

During the war in Bosnia Manjaca was concetration camp for non-Serbian residents, obviously theywanted to recollect memories:

Manjaca logor in Bosnia during the war in 90's:

http://www.google.hr/search?q=CETNI...on.2,or.&fp=52f17b2c0e5cff46&biw=1152&bih=773

Videos:

http://www.google.hr/search?q=Manja...a=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=3&ved=0CDAQ_AUoAg

Croatia - Nazi puppet state? How is that possible? I think that Yugoslavia was puppet state of Soviet Union. Country that can't feed their residents is pure puppet state.

During 50's, and 60's US military throw food for Yugoslavian residents with parachutes, main ingredient was milk, but not real milk, yet milk powder. They throw that to Yugoslavian residents with PARACHUTE.

Parachute is Croatian invention before Yugoslavia of Croatian scientist Faust Vrancic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fausto_Veranzio

Isn't that sad how great inventors before Yugoslavia receive mercy gifts from capitalist world and yet Yugoslavia was perfect society.

If we could invent parachute, at least we could produce some food after World War II. What a paradox.

However, by this time Mihailovic had already asked the Germans for munitions to fight the communists. The Germans declined to negotiate, instead demanding unconditional surrender. The British liaison to Mihajlović advised London to stop supplying the Chetniks after their assistance in the German attack on Užice (see First anti-Partisan Offensive), but Britain continued to do so.

United Kingdom helped Chetnik movement by supplying them with weapons. That's why Great Britain helped to partisans on Bleiburg that they kill unarmed Croatians. That's why Great Britain likes Serbia today. Interesting.

From a relatively short time after Yugoslavia was invaded, the Chetniks enjoyed high-profile support from the American media and received financial aid; Billy Mitchell's sister was one of the many Americans that supported and or financed the cause of the Yugoslav Army of the Fatherland.

In the meantime, the Germans, also aware of the growing importance of Yugoslavia, decided to wipe out the Partisans with determined offensives. The Chetniks, by this time, had agreed to provide support for the German operations, and were in turn granted supplies and munitions to increase their effectiveness.

The first of these large anti-Partisan offensives was Fall Weiss, also known as the Battle of Neretva. The Chetniks participated with a significant, 20,000-strong, force providing assistance to the German and Italian encirclement from the east (the far bank of the river Neretva). However, Tito's Partisans managed to break through the encirclement, cross the river, and engage the Chetniks. The conflict resulted in a near-total Partisan victory, after which the Chetniks were almost entirely incapacitated in the area west of the Drina river. The Partisans continued on, and later again escaped the Germans in the Battle of Sutjeska.
In the meantime, the Allies stopped planning an invasion of the Balkans and finally rescinded their support for the Chetniks and instead supplied the Partisans. At the Teheran Conference of 1943 and the Yalta Conference of 1945, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill decided to split their influence in Yugoslavia in half.

To gather intelligence, agents of the western Allies were infiltrated into both the Partisans and the Chetniks.

Imagine how they were stupid, when foreign people could represent themselves as Chetniks or Partisans. Fist on the head and celebrate communism, they only know this. All heavy drinkers, partisans had nickname "tifusari", typhoid illness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_fever

His reports contained two important observations. The first was that the Partisans were courageous and aggressive in battling the German 1st Mountain and 104th Light Division, had suffered significant casualties, and required support. The second observation was that the entire German 1st Mountain Division had transited from Russia on rail lines through Chetnik-controlled territory. British intercepts (Ultra) of German message traffic confirmed Chetnik timidity. All in all, intelligence reports resulted in increased Allied interest in Yugoslavia air operations, and a shift in policy. In September 1943, at Churchill’s request, Brigadier Fitzroy Maclean was parachuted to Tito’s headquarters near Drvar to serve as a permanent, formal liaison to the Partisans. While the Chetniks were still occasionally supplied, the Partisans received the bulk of all future support.

Double measures, they supported Chetniks and Partisans. Another proof that Chetniks=Partisans.

Consequently on 29 August 1944, King Peter II dismissed Mihailović as Chief-of-Staff of the Yugoslav Army and on 12 September appointed Marshal Josip Broz Tito in his place. In late 1944, the leader of the Serbian fifth column, Milan Nedić, transferred all fascist Serbian troops under his command to Mihailović.

If the King Peter II liked two persons, that means that these two persons have similar ideas; once again; Chetniks and Partisans were desirable because they protected Sebian interests in all puppet and artificial states of Yugoslavia. Long live the king.

President Harry S. Truman posthumously awarded Mihailović the "Legion of Merit", for the rescue of American Airmen (Operation Airbridge). This award was classified secret by the United States Department of State so as not to offend Yugoslavs.

Why was this award secret? Because they all knew that Chetnik movement doesn't represent equal rights. Non-Serbians could get offended if someone awards their mortal enemy.

Mihailović and his few remaining followers tried to fight their way back to the Ravna Gora, but he was captured by Partisan forces. In March 1946, Mihailović was brought to Belgrade, where he was tried and executed on charges of treason in July. During the closing years of World War II, many Chetniks defected from their units, as the Partisan commander-in-chief, Marshal Josip Broz Tito, proclaimed a general amnesty to all defecting forces for a time.

Chetniks lost on Ravna Gora, their gathering is above in videos.

Non-Serbian Chetniks

Croat Chetniks - so sad

During World War II a number of ethnic Croats participated in various Chetnik units, mostly in Dalmatia. Many of those Croats were Yugoslav monarchists, pan-Slavists, anti-communists, and members of pre–World War II ORJUNA organization. Two Chetnik battalions - "Splitsko-šibenički četnički bataljon" and "Odred vojvode Birčanina" were mostly dominated by ethnic Croats.[27] Most famous Croat Chetnik commanders were people like captain Krešimir Vranić (leader of second Chetnik detachment, dominated by Croats), Ivo Jankov, colonel Anton Šuster from Sušak and lieutenant Niko Lazarić from island of Krk. Around 30% of Croats from Split, of Yugoslav and non-communist orientation joined Dalmatian Chetnik units.

Mihailović admitted to a British colonel that the Chetniks' principle enemies were "the partisans, the Ustasha, the Muslims, the Croats and last the Germans and Italians" in that order.

And yet Yugoslavian Royal family promoted him, gave him better conditions and proclaimed him as the guardian of Yugoslavia. He hated complete Croatian nation: Usatshe and Croats. Has every Croat did something wrong to him?

If we go back a little, retrospective look in the mirror we can see that Chetnik movement was founded cca 1904. Imagine that, Chetniks planned for 40 years, until World War II, for Croatian destruction. This is a crucial proof that Croatians never had peace or their human rights. During World War II. Croatia defended Croatian interests.

In Serbia today Chetnik fighters have equal rights like Partisans.

Declaration of Italians, who protected Croatians:

To support the Chetniks sufficiently to make them fight against the communists, but not so much as to allow them too much latitude in their own action; to demand and assure that the Chetniks do not fight against the Croatian forces and authorities; to allow them to fight against the communists on their own initiative (so that they can "slaughter each other"); and finally to allow them to fight in parallel with the Italian and German forces, as do the nationalist bands [Chetniks and separatist Zelenaši] in Montenegro.
—General Mario Roatta, 1942

"Chetnik ideology revolved around the notion of a Greater Serbia within the borders of Yugoslavia, to be created out of all territories in which Serbs were found, even if the numbers were small. This goal had long been the foundation of the movement for a Greater Serbia. During the Axis occupation, however, the notion of removing or "cleansing" of these territories was introduced, largely in response to the massacres of Serbs by the Ustaše in the Independent State of Croatia".

During the early stages of the occupation, the Ustashas had also recruited a number of Muslims to aid in the persecutions of the Serbs, and even though only a relatively small number of Croates and Muslims engaged in these activities, and many opposed them, those actions initiated a cycle of violence and retribution between the Catholics, Orthodox and Muslims, as each sought to rid the others from the territories they controlled.(Pavlowitch, p47-49) In particular, Ustaše ideologs were concerned with the large Serbian minority in the NDH, and intiated acts of terror on a wide scale in May 1941, and by July, even the Germans protested the brutality of these actions.

Eastern Herzegovina:
Reprisals followed, as in the case of Nevesinje, where Serb peasants staged an uprising in response to the persecution, drove out the Ustasha militia, but then engaged in reprisals killed hundreds of Croats and Muslims.

Yugoslavia = Great Serbia

In the summer of 1941, the Ravna Gora Movement had attracted a small number of Serbia intellectuals who developed a political ideology for the Chetniks. Stevan Moljević believed that Serbs should not repeat the mistakes of World War I by failing to define the borders of Serbia, and proposed that at the end of World War II Serbs should take control of all territories to which they laid claim, and from that position negotiate the form of a federally organized Yugoslavia. This plan required the relocation of non-Serbs from Serbian controlled territories and other shifts of populations

As I said before, Yugoslavia was the plan for Great Serbia, plan was to rellocate Serbians in regions where they never existed, so that they can form Yugoslavia there easy. Clever. Serbians never lived in some regions.

He produced a document, Homegenous Serbia, which articulated these notions.

Yugoslavia = Serbia

These proposals were very similar to those later formulated by the Belgrade Chetnik Committee and presented to the Government in Exile in September 1941, in which the Cetniks set forth specific figures in regard to population shifts.

Over one million Serbs were to be brought into newly acquired territories, while over 2.5 million people were to be expelled in order to create an "ethnically pure" Greater Serbia comprising Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Vojvodina. The Sandzak was to be cleansed of the Muslim population, and both Bosnia and Herzegovina were to be cleansed of the Muslim and Croate populations.

Again another proof, that Bosnia and Herzegovina were Croatian historical regions, Serbians never lived there, because they wanted to destroy Muslims and Croatians. They formed that plan after World War II and in the recent war.

The Chetnik Dinara Division created a similar program in March 1942, which, like the instructions attributed to Mihailovic, propose a Greater Serbia with a corridor between Herzegovina, northern Dalmatia, Bosnia, and Lika to Slovenia, and cleansing of these areas of non Serbian populations. This was later accepted by the military leaders of the three areas.

Dinara is Croatian mountain.

This document continued additionals formulations of strategy, including collabaration with Italian forces as a modus vivendi, formation of Croatian Chetnik units as part of a continuing struggle against the Partisans, Domobrans and Ustasha. This document also proposed decent treatment of the Muslim population in order to prevent them from joining the Partisan forces, and noted that these groups could later be eliminated.

In the fall of 1942, a program was fomulated at a Conference of Young Chetnik Intellectuals of Montenegro, which also proposed a unified Yugoslavia consisting only of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes, exclusion of other ethnic groups, which was to be controlled by the Chetnik forces with the endorsment of the King, as well as agrarian and political reforms, nationalization of banking and wholesale trade, and increased propaganda to promote Chetnik ideology.

Yugoslavian Serbian Royal family supported Chetnik Movement.

Some of the directives associated with cleansing of non-Serbs were later incorporated into a manual prepared by Chetnik military leaders, which detailed a three phased approach and the military structure to be used during the war. The manual argued that both the Serbs and the Croates had been politically victimized in the period between the two world wars, and the unproven notion that in Serbia and especially in Belgrade, Croates held the upper hand in the government.

Except for the Ustashas, Croates were not seen as the enemies of the Serbs, and a goal was set for the incorporation of Croatian forces under Chetnik leadership. Ustashas, on the other hand, were to be summarily executed.

The question of shifting populations and religious conversion of the Croates was to be left aside until the Serbs had assumed power in Yugoslavia

They tried to convert Croatian Catholics so that they become Serbian Orthodox families. With this sneaky plan they could destroy Croatian name for two generations.

Revenge was incorporated into the Chetnik manual as a "...sacred duty of the Serbian people against those who had wronged thenm during the war and occupation".

Throughout the war, the Chetniks engaged in a series of massacres carried out against Muslims in southeastern Bosnia, especially in the area in and around Foča and Sandžak. In the winter of 1941, approximately 2000 Muslims were killed.

In the latter action, Chetnik units from Montenegro engaged in "cleansing actions" against the Muslims of Foča and Sandžak, in which an estimated 10,000 Muslims perished.

Chetnik Đurišić had been in charge of these operations and in his report to Mihailović, he indicated that about 9000 of the dead were the old, women, and children, and the villages and property not seized by the Chetniks were destroyed. Losses would likely have been higher had not large number of Muslims already fled the area.

Civil rights? 0%

Actions against the Croates were of a smaller scale but similar in action, and the violence against civilian Croate and Muslim populations were severe enough that the Italian General Roatta threatened to stop supplying the Chetniks if the attacks continued.(Ramet, p. 146) Although many of these actions were justified as reprisals, they were consistent with the orders for cleansing actions attributed to Mihailović and as a response to the large scale "crimes against humanity" initated by the Croatian Ustashas.

The Partisans were also targets of terror tactics. In Serbia, Chetniks killed an unknown number of Partisans, their families and sympathizers, on ideological grounds. During the summer of 1942, using names supplied by Mihailovic, lists of individual Nedić and Ljotić supporters to be assassinated or threatened were broadcast over BBC radio during news programming in Serbo-Croatian. Once the British discovered this, the broadcasts of these lists were halted, although this did not prevent the Chetniks from continuing the assassinations.

And yet Chetnik Movement gathers today on Ravna Gora in Serbia.

After the end of World War II, the Chetniks were banned in the new Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. On 29 November 1945, King Peter II was deposed by the Yugoslav Constituent Assembly after an overwhelming referendum result. Chetnik leaders either escaped the country or were arrested by the authorities. On 13 March 1946, Draža Mihailović was captured by OZNA, the Yugoslav security agency. He was put to trial, found guilty of high treason against Yugoslavia, sentenced to death and then hanged on July 17. Later, Momčilo Đujić formed the 'Movement of Serbian Chetniks of Ravna Gora' in the United States and Canada.

For the people who don't beleive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks
Also there are many references in ACADEMIC BOOKS.

Now lets go back to our Orthodox spiritual leader Momcilo Dujic.

Weeks after the establishment of the Independent State of Croatia, which was divided into German and Italian zones of occupation, Đujić narrowly escaped capture by Croatian nationalist forces, and in the summer of 1941, organised a Chetnik detachment that seized the town of Drvar from the Ustaše.

Why did he escaped if he didn't do anything wrong?

On August 31, at a Drvar assembly, Đujić was given the task of stopping the advance of the Italians; he immediately afterwards made an agreement with the Italians granting them free passage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momčilo_Đujić

On February 10, 1943, Momčilo Đujić, Ilija Mihić, Petar Baćović and Radovan Ivanišević, the Chetnik commanders of East Bosnia, Herzegovina, Dalmatia, and Lika, signed a joint proclamation declaring to the "people of Bosnia, Lika, and Dalmatia" that "since we have cleansed Serbia, Montenegro, and Herzegovina, we have come to help to crush the pitiful remnants of the Communist international, criminal band of Josip Broz Tito, Moša Pijade, Levi Vajnert and other paid Jews"

for those who don't believe, this is the book: Hoare, Marko Attila (2006). Genocide and Resistance in Hitler's Bosnia: The Partisans and the Chetniks. Oxford University Press. pp. 129, 135, 162.

Chetniks were anti-Hebrew people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momčilo_Đujić

Wikipedia is telling the truth because there are many references from other, ACADEMIC sources.

Following Italian capitulation in September 1943, the Germans were less supportive of Đujić than the Italians had been, and restricted his activities to guarding railway tracks from Partisan sabotage.

On November 25, 1944, the Yugoslav Partisans attacked the town of Knin, which was defended by fourteen thousand German troops, forty-five hundred of Đujić's Chetniks, and around fifteen hundred Ustaša.[5] On December 1, Đujić was wounded and sent an emissary to General Gustav Fehn of the German 264th Division in Knin with the following message:
The Chetnik Command with all of its armed forces has collaborated sincerely and loyally with the German Army in these area from September last year. Our common interest demanded this. This collaboration has continued to the present day. [...] The Chetnik Command wishes to share the destiny of the German Army in the future, too. [...] The command requests that [the village of] Pađene be the base for supplying our units, until a further common agreement is reached.

Do not forget that Dujic was Orthodox priest.

The Chetniks received ammunition and food from the Germans and began a joint German-Chetnik offensive against the Partisans. General Fehn organized the transportation of Đujić's wounded Chetniks through Zagreb to the Third Reich. Đujić requested a written guarantee from Ante Pavelić to afford him and his forces refuge in German-occupied Slovenia.

He was scared...

On December 21, 1944, Pavelić ordered the military forces of the Independent State of Croatia to give Đujić and his forces free passage.

Dujic could be destroyed back than...Croatians saved him, and yet Chetnik movement hates Croatians. Why?

However, Đujić went through an alternate route towards the Istrian peninsula, as the routes offered by Pavelić were not secure from Partisan attacks, and killed the Croatian population along the way.

Croatians let them pass and they killed Croatians on that way. He doesn't respects honor and customs of war.

Proof how Serbians do the work, when they are weak they ask for shelter, after they get in secured area they attack than, same was when Croatians helped them after they lost against Ottoman Empire.

In May 1945 he surrendered his division to Allied forces and they were then taken to southern Italy, from there to displaced persons camps in Germany and then dispersed. Following a spell in Paris (1947–49), Đujić emigrated to the United States, to where many of his former followers may have followed him.

In 1947, Đujić was tried and sentenced in absentia for war crimes by Yugoslavia, but was not extradited by the US government. From 1947 to 1949 he was in France.

In mid-1980s there was an initiative in Croatia for extradition and trial to Đujić. It was published in the newspaper Slobodna Dalmacija.

Following his arrival in the United States, according to the organisation's website, Đujić and his fighters played a role in the foundation of the Movement of Serbian Chetniks Ravne Gore, dedicated "to serve as a guardian of the Ravna Gora ideals forged in the struggle for the survival of Serbian people during World War II" as they "felt a need for the continuation of the struggle against the communist tyranny that enslaved Serbian people".

On 28 June 1989, the 600th anniversary of the Battle of Kosovo, Đujić granted the title of Vojvoda to Vojislav Šešelj, then an anti-Communist dissident and subsequently described for his activities in the Yugoslav wars as "a man whose killer commando units operating in Croatia and Bosnia carried on the very worst of the Chetnik tradition". Later Šešelj became leader of the Serbian Radical Party (SRS), a government coalition partner of President Slobodan Milosević. In 1998, Đujić publicly stated that he regretted awarding that title to Šešelj, quoting "I was naïve when I nominated Šešelj [as] Vojvoda; I ask my people to forgive me. The greatest gravedigger of Serbdom is Slobodan Milošević".

According to the ICTY testimony of Croatian Serb leader Milan Babić, Đujić financially supported the Krajina Croatian Serb rebellion in the 1990s.[10]
In 1998, Biljana Plavšić, president of Republika Srpska at the time, rewarded Đujić with an honorary award. Đujić died on 11 September 1999 in San Diego, California at age 92.

War criminal that was never sentenced. Pure justice of Yugoslavia. He lived in peace of San Diego, financing Serbs against Croatians in recent war, promoting new leaders of Chetnik movement, horrible group from videos above.

Vojislav Seselj: war criminal from Hague.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vojislav_Šešelj

Some people say that his family has Croatian origins in Eastern Herzegovina, they changed religion, because Orthodox priest offered land in addition that people change their religion. And his family in the past from Croatian Catholics became Serbian Orthodox, all because of some agricultural land. This was popular from Serbian Orthodox Church, collecting members through bribery in non-Serbian regions.

This was quote from Croatian Wikipedia: here is explained how his family changed nation and religion: http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vojislav_Šešelj

"Šešelj porijeklo vuče iz mjesta hercegovačkog sela Orahov do, sela odakle dolaze svi ostali Šešelji. Ironično, u vrijeme sukoba Rimokatoličke crkve i Pravoslavne crkve pravoslavni su popovi nudili zemlju svim katolicima koji prijeđu na pravoslavlje. U to vrijeme Orahov dol naseljavale su samo tri obitelji Šešelj. Dvije obitelji su pobjegle u Dubrovnik i ostale na katoličanstvu, dok je jedna primila pravoslavlje, a to je obitelj četničkog vojvode Vojislava Šešelja."

You can read his books: Ha Ha. Insane titles of silly conspiracy. It's sad because his family probably? was of Croatian Catholic heritage, again he destroyed his own nation. Croatia is unique in Europe, their own leaders destroyed their own people.

Šešelj has written a couple of books in which he explicitly accused Roman Catholic churches of engaging in activities against Serbs. Among them are:
Roman clergy always thirsty for Serb blood (Serbian)[26] (2006)
Anti-Christ's deputy Roman Pope Benedict XVI (Serbian)[27] (2006)
Pontifex Maximus of Satanist church John Paul II. (Serbian) [28] (2006)
Devil's assistant criminal Roman Pope John Paul II. (Serbian)[29] (2004)

Chetniks are still wandering around in uniforms, with guns, they represent nationalistic messages, all this in 21 century. Mentaly disturbed people. Orthodox priest Momcilo Dujic was never punished. He started to send money in Yugoslavia so that Serbians can kill Croatians in Croatia. These pages demonstrate that Croatians aren't guilty for any conflict, because Chetnik movement was formed 1904. They planned for 40 years how to great Great Serbia, there are many references about every important information, Wikipedia is excellent source, for those who wants to know more, they can find all data in books.

 

Croatia​

Croatian flag:



Croatian coat of arms:



National anthem: "Lijepa naša domovino" ("Our Beautiful Homeland")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijepa_naša_domovino

The song originally consisted of fourteen verses but today, only verses one, two, thirteen, and fourteen are part of the national anthem.

Our beautiful homeland,
Oh dear heroic land,
Our father's ancient glory,
May you be blessed forever.

Beloved, you are our sole glory,
Beloved, you are our only one,
Beloved, where you are plain,
Beloved, where you are mountain

Clear skies, clear forehead,
Mild personalities, mild nights,
Hot summer, hot work,
Clear water, clear eyes:

Great hills, great people...
September entities, vine,
Mighty thunder, a mighty wonder; -
This is our home!

Sickles are reaping, scythe are waging,
Old man is in hurry, he counts the sheaves,
Stacked hay he rides, flour they are carrying
Bride knits and breastfeeds a child

Cattle is eating, horn is heared,
Oj, oj it rings, oj in blackness,
To fire, youth and elders are going;-
Here is our homeland!

Kindling wood from dark shines fat,
All around cheerful meadow,
Songs are loudly repeld by hills,
In loved are singing to tamburica:

They lead kolo, cheery kolo,
On the hills, and on the valley,
Youth is dancing all around;-
We are, friend, in homeland!

Is it the fog what hides the Una?
Or it's of our people dreary scream?
Who prays for death?
Are the free ones or the slaves?

"It is war, brothers, war heroes,
Snatch your rifle, take a saber,
Saddle horses, go on foot,
May be glory, wher ours are!"

Bora roars, fog is gone,-
Dawn breaks, blackness runs,-
Sorrow dies, joy comes,-
Hello freedom, - enemy is down!

Be happy, sad mother,
Your sons have fallen,
Like heroes, like Croats,
They poured blood for homeland!

Flow, fast Sava, flow,
Nor you Danube, lose your power,
Wher you murmuring, tell whole world:
That a Croat loves his home,

Whilst the sun warms his fields,
Whilst winds lash his oak trees,
Whilst his lost ones are with grave covered,
Whilst his living heart beats.

Meaning of some terms:

* Tamburica - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamburica
* Kolo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolo_(dance)
* River Una - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Una_(Sava)
* Bora Wind - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bora_(wind)
* Sava River - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava
* Dunav (Danube) River - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube
^ Drava River - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drava

State emblems: http://www.mvpei.hr/MVP.asp?pcpid=953

Audio version of Croatian national anthem: http://www.vlada.hr/en/multimedija_i_fotogalerije/audio

Antun Mihanovic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antun_Mihanović

Croatia (i/kroʊˈeɪʃə/ kroh-ay-shə; Croatian: Hrvatska pronounced [xř̩ʋaːtskaː]), officially the Republic of Croatia (Croatian: Republika Hrvatska listen (help·info)), is a country in Central Europe and Southeastern Europe at the crossroads of the Pannonian Plain, the Balkans, and the Adriatic Sea. Its capital and largest city is Zagreb. Croatia borders Slovenia to the north, Hungary to the northeast, Bosnia and Herzegovina to the southeast, Serbia to the east, and Montenegro to the southeast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia

The Croats arrived in the early 7th century in what today is Croatia. They organized the state into two dukedoms. The first king, King Tomislav was crowned in AD 925 and Croatia was elevated into the status of a kingdom.

King Tomislav: rex Croatorum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomislav_of_Croatia

Father of the King Tomislav: Muncimir of Croatia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muncimir_of_Croatia

Father of Muncimir: Trpimir I of Croatia (Latin: Trepimero) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trpimir_I_of_Croatia

House of Trpimirović: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Trpimirović

"Trpimirović dynasty (Croatian: Trpimirovići) was a native Croat dynasty that ruled, with interruptions, from 845 until 1091 in Croatia and was named after Trpimir I, the first member and the founder. The most prominent rulers of the Trpimirović house include Tomislav (first king of Croatia, crowned in 925), Petar Krešimir and Dmitar Zvonimir; the house gave four dukes, thirteen kings and a queen.
Since the mid 9th century foundation, the house reached independent rule at some later point and dissolved at the end of 11th century. During that time, the state had slight territorial changes, most notably in Bosnia and southern Dalmatia, where the wars against Venetians and others were waged."

After the death of King Stjepan Držislav, the succession struggles between his sons Svetoslav Suronja, Gojslav and Krešimir had the Trpimirović dynasty divided into two cadet lines: the main Krešimirović branch (descendants of Krešimir) and Svetoslavić branch (descendants of Svetoslav Suronja). Gojslav was taken out since he had no descendants.
According to a version of the Chronicle of the Priest of Duklja from the 12th century:
"...Cresimir [Crescimir] had a son named Stephen. After his father's death he ruled White Croatia and Bosna, and after him they [his descendants ?] always reigned in Croatia..."

Bosnia and Herzegovina - Croatian regions

Trpimirović dynasty family tree:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trpimirović_dynasty_family_tree

List of rulers of Croatia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Croatia

Kingdom of Croatia (medieval):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Croatia_(medieval)

Map of Kingdom of Croatia with today's Bosnia and Herzegovina, parts of Montenegro and parts of today's Serbia: Regnum Chroatorum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingdom_of_Croatia.png

Principality of Littoral Croatia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littoral_Croatian_Duchy

The Croats were a Slavic tribe, coming into the Balkans from an area in and around today's Poland or western Ukraine. Many modern scholars believe that the early Croat people, as well as other early Slavic groups, were agricultural populations that were ruled by the nomadic Iranian-speaking Alans. It is unclear whether the Alans contributed much more than a ruling caste or a class of warriors; the evidence on their contribution is mainly philological and etymological.

White Croatia: also Chrobatia is a vaguely defined area, said to lie somewhere in Central Europe, near Bavaria, beyond Hungary on south of Poland and west of Ukraine, and adjacent to the Frankish Empire from which the part of White Croats crossed the Carpathians and migrated in the 7th century into Dalmatia (modern-day Croatia). The term white designates west, thus the name of the state means Western Croatia.

Croatians founded their countries even before they came on territory of today's Croatia, that's why Croatia today has good relations with German region Bavaria, Hungary, Poland and Ukraine. Croatia belongs to this civilization circle, not with Serbia, Muslims of Bosnia, or any other Eastern territory. They all came later on territory of today's Croatia. That's why they need to respect Croatia and Croatians, without any violence or dreams about Great Serbia, because only Croatia existed.

Quote from ACADEMIC source "De Administrando Imperio", Constantine Porphyrogenitus: "The Chrobats were known even in the 9th century under Constantine Porphyrogennetos rule, who describes them in his work De Administrando Imperio in these words: The Chrobat lived in that times (meaning, times of emperror Heraclius) close to Babigorea where Belo-Chobat family is now, while others, those who went to Dalmatia living close to France, called Belo-Chrobat, belo meaning white, as they had their own Prince. They pay hommage to Otto the Great, the ruler of Franks also being Saxon. Being pagans they ally with Turks. Those Chrobats who in Dalmatia reside, derive from the non baptized ones, ones allied Turks living near Franks and with Serbians bordering." Then he also states: "[...] the great Chrobatia which as the white is called, till this very day baptised is not, same as their neighbours Serbians. Cavalry and infantry has it as much as Christian Chrobatia, all for frequent Franks' invasions."

According to Nestor the Chronicler, White Croats were progenitors of Lendians. In his work from 1113 AD called "The Primary Chronicle" Nestor describes how in the early Middle Ages White Croats, Serbians and Karantans (most likely part of the tribes) were forced to leave their lands due to Italian invasion. After that they settled along the river Vistula, calling themselves Lendians, and later dividing into Polans, Veleti, Masovians and Pomeranians. "After many years had passed, Slavic people settled on the Danube, where Hungary and Bulgaria are now. From those Slavic tribes they spread to many lands, calling themselves with many names which were from grounds they stayed on. And so, leaving on the Morava river, they called themselves Moravians, and anothers as Czech. Yet another Slavic people were White Croatians, and Serbians, and Korantans. Those, when oppressed by Italians who invaded that grounds, embarked towards Vistula and stayed there calling themselves Lendians, and later Polans, Veleti, Masovier and Pomeranians." Other authors from those times are not calling Croatians as "White". The Bavarian Geographer does not mention them either (same as Polans) (845 AD).

Red Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Croatia

Red Croatia (Latin: Croatia Rubea, Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian: Crvena Hrvatska), is a historical term used for the southeastern parts of Roman Dalmatia and some other territories, in including part of present-day Montenegro, greater part of Albania, the Herzegovina part of Bosnia and Herzegovina and southeastern Croatia, stretching across the Adriatic Sea. Another Red Croatia was between rivers Bug and Dniester according to Bruno of Querfurt ,and was part of Pechenegs tribal union and was 6th Pechenegs province. Red Croatia was neighbour to Kievan Rus' and White Croatia.

Croatia was all the way to Albania, this means that Montenegro, Herzegovina, parts of Bosnia and some parts of Serbia belonged to Croatians. That's why on this territory live many Croatians.

Andrea Dandolo (1300–1354), the Venetian author of his Chronicle of Dalmatia, who writes of Croatian lands (Dalmatian Kingdom), reiterated the boundaries of Red Croatia:
In Latin:
"Svethopolis rex Dalmacie... in plano Dalme coronatus est et regnum suum Dalmacie in IIIIor partes divisit... A plano intaque Dalme usque Ystriam, Chroaciam Albam, vocavit, et a dicto plano usque Duracium, Chroaciam Rubeam, et versus montana, a flumine Drino usque Maceodoniam, Rasiam; et a dicto flumine citra Bosnam nominavit... Moderni autem maritimam totam vocant Dalmaciam, montana autem Chroatiam..."
Translation:
"Svatopluk, king of Dalmatia.... on Duvno field was crowned and his kingdom of Dalmatia is spread out into 4 regions: From the field called Duvno (Tomislavgrad), to Istra is called White Croatia... and from that field to Drac (Durrës in Albania) is called Red Croatia; and the mountainous side from the river Drina to Macedonia is called Rascia, and to that river to here is called Bosnia. The whole sea coast is called Dalmatia and its mountains are Croatia..."

Tomislavgrad is the city in Western Herzegovina - Croatian Fatherland.

Numerous Montenegrin and Croatian researchers, linguists and historians (under the flag of Jevrem Brković and Vojislav Nikčević), aside from slowly standardizing a Montenegrin language separately from the Serbian, have confounded a theory of Montenegrin origin. They claim that the Montenegrins are not of Serb origin, but that they have been under heavy Serbian oppression for centuries, especially ever since the "genocidal Saint Sava that made us Orthodox", referring to the fact that Montenegrins were originally Roman Catholic Croats and claiming the reason of their present Orthodox faith is strictly due to the Serbian military intervention of Stefan Nemanja in the 12th century. We should note, however, that Serbs back then were a mixture of Orthodox and Catholics, and religion was not an indicator of ethnic affiliation. The Montenegrin followers of this theory had to flee the 1990s Milošević-sponsored regime of Momir Bulatović, Milo Đukanović and Svetozar Marović; finding refuge in Croatia. Tuđman generally supported their research and the writing of a Montenegrin language in exile, while the group was propagating against the Yugoslav/Montenegrin/Serbian interventions in Croatia's War of Independence, strictly criticizing the 1991-1992 attacks on Dubrovnik. In 1993 Montenegrin Orthodox Church was created and up to now it struggles to take over the Orthodox property in Montenegro, which is under control of the Serbian Church.

Montenegrin people are originally Croatians, but Serbian repression changed their nationality. That's way today's Montenegrin language is so similar to Croatian standard language, only they write Cyrillic letter because of Serbian influence. Bosnian and Montenegrin languages are the closest languages of Croatian language.

Croatian language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_language

Differences between standard Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian: Serbians use Cyrillic letter, but they use also Croatian Latin letter, Croatians don't use Serbian Cyrillic letter.

English Bosnian Croatian Serbian (ijekavian)
point tačka točka tačka
correct tačno točno tačno
municipality općina općina opština
priest svećenik svećenik sveštenik
male student student student student
female student studentkinja studentica studentkinja
male professor profesor profesor profesor
female professor profesorica profesorica profesorka
scientist naučnik znanstvenik naučnik
translator prevodilac prevoditelj prevodilac
reader čitalac čitatelj čitalac
diver ronilac ronilac ronilac
But:
assembly skupština skupština skupština
male president predsjednik predsjednik predsjednik
female president predsjednica predsjednica predsjednica
male Black crnac crnac crnac
female Black crnkinja crnkinja crnkinja
thinker mislilac mislilac mislilac
teacher učitelj učitelj učitelj

Montenegrin language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegrin_language

Parliament on Cetin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_on_Cetin

The Parliament on Cetin (Croatian: Cetinski sabor) was a gathering (sabor) of the Croatian nobility in the town of Cetin caused by a monarchical crisis after the death of their king Louis II and a major defeat of the Kingdom of Hungary at the Battle of Mohács. On January 1, 1527 they elected Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria as the new king of Croatia.
Faced with the overwhelming force of the Ottoman Empire, the Croatian nobles met to discuss their strategy and choose a new leader. Louis II, the Hungarian king, had held the crown of Croatia among other titles. After his death, the Croatians had few options, and the election of Ferdinand was a natural one because he was not only the powerful Archduke of Austria, he also ruled the lands of Croatia's Slavic neighbours, the Slovenes, as both Duke of Carinthia and Carniola.
The charter signed by the Croatian nobles and representatives of Ferdinand von Habsburg which bears a fine example of the famous chequered state seal of Croatia is among the most important documents of Croatian statehood and is preserved at the Austrian State Archives in Vienna.
In return for the throne Archduke Ferdinand promised to respect the historic rights, freedoms, laws and customs the Croats had when united with the Hungarian kingdom and to defend Croatia from Ottoman invasion and subjugation.
The charter electing Ferdinand was confirmed with the seals of six Croatian nobles and four representatives of the Archduke:

Croatian Nobles:

Andrija Tuškanić -
Ivan Karlović - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Karlović
Nikola Zrinski - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_III_Zrinski father of Nikola Šubić Zrinski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Šubić_Zrinski) and great-great-grandfather of Nikola Zrinski, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_VII_Zrinski), both future bans of Croatia
Juraj Frankopan - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankopan
Vuk Frankopan - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankopan
Stjepan Blagajski
Austrian Plenipotentiaries
Pavao Oberstain
Nikola Jurišić - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Jurišić
Ivan Katzianer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Katzianer
Ivan Pichler

In Slavonia, an ancient duchy historically tied to Croatia, some of the nobility distanced themselves from the election and nominated John Zápolya the rival claimant to the Hungarian throne instead. After his death in 1540 the first option prevailed.

Austria did respect Croatian rights.

Ban of Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_of_Croatia

Through history of Croatia is visible Croatian coat of arms: red and white checkers, during period of Yugoslavia, Croatians had false symbol of red star, this is not Croatian symbol, Yugoslavia took this symbol of Soviet Union, because Yugoslavia was Soviet Union puppet state. Russian football club CSKA Moskva has this star as their symbol.

Cetin Castle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetin_Castle

Ban (title): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_(title)

"The word ban has entered the English language probably as a borrowing from South Slavic ban, meaning "lord, master; ruler". The Slavic word is probably borrowed from late Thracian *ban meaning "master (of a house)" (cf. Albanian bánë, banésë - "house", Romanian ban - nobility rank, Bănie, Banat - "region under the rule of bans"),[1] that is an old indo-European root *pa- - "to protect" (see also Persian ban - "master")."

Today's Croatian Parliament: http://www.sabor.hr/Default.aspx?sec=361

Peter Krešimir IV of Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Krešimir_IV_of_Croatia

Demetrius Zvonimir of Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_Zvonimir_of_Croatia

Stephen Držislav of Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stjepan_Držislav

House of Habsburg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Habsburg

Austria-Hungary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria–Hungary

Coat of arms of Austria-Hungary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Austria-Hungary

Croatian regions in Austro-Hungary:

Triune Kingdom of Croatia, Slavonia, and Dalmatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_Kingdom_of_Croatia,_Slavonia,_and_Dalmatia

Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Croatia-Slavonia

Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia: border went all the way to Serbian capital city of Belgrade, this means that Serbia took Croatian lands, after their defeats of Ottoman Empire, Ottoman Empire took over Bosnia and Herzegovina, this map was from 1885. year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_the_Kingdom_of_Croatia-Slavonia_(1885).png

National anthems were: Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_erhalte_Franz_den_Kaiser) and Croatian national anthem Lijepa naša domovino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijepa_naša_domovino)

Flag of Croatia-Slavonia: same colors like today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Croatia-Slavonia.svg

Coa Croatia Country History (with crown) (1868-1918): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coa_Croatia_Country_History_(with_crown)_(1868-1918).svg

On this coat of arm again we can see red and white checkers and small animal in the bottom, named: Mustelidae.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustelidae

Mustelidae is kuna in Crotian language, that's why Croatia has kuna as currency: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_kuna

During the World War II and Independent State of Croatia, currency was also kuna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_State_of_Croatia_kuna

The Croatian kuna was introduced in the Independent State of Croatia (NDH) on 26 July 1941.
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuna_(NDH)


Reproduction of Croatian currency: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproduction_of_Croatian_currency

Croatian National Bank: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_National_Bank

Persons and monuments on today's Croatian currency kuna:

Fran Krsto Frankopan and Petar Zrinski - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_Krsto_Frankopan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petar_Zrinski

Bishop Juraj Dobrila - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juraj_Dobrila

Ban Josip Jelacic - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Jelačić

Ivan Gundulić - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Gundulić

Ivan Mažuranić - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Mažuranić

Baška tablet - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baška_tablet

Stjepan Radić - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stjepan_Radić

Serbian Punisa Racic killed him and few other Croatian members in Yugoslavian Parliament, so that Serbians can create Great Serbia without including any Croatian person in making decisions. Serbian Gavrilo Princip also killed Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

Marko Marulić - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Marulić

Ante Starčević - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Starčević

Pula Arena - similar to Coloseum in Rome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula_Arena

Motovun - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motovun

Eltz Manor - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eltz_Manor

Serbian hero Jovo Stanisavljević Čaruga killed one person from Eltz Family: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovo_Stanisavljević_Čaruga

Vučedol culture - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vučedol_culture

Zagreb Cathedral - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagreb_Cathedral

Economy of Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Croatia

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=HRK&To=HRK

Since the fall of communism and the end of the Croatian War of Independence, Croatia has achieved high human development and income equality, and ranks highly amongst Central European nations in terms of education, health, quality of life and economic dynamism. Croatia is a member of the United Nations, the Council of Europe, NATO, the World Trade Organization and CEFTA. Croatia is an acceding state of the European Union, with entry expected in July 2013, and is a founding member of the Union for the Mediterranean. Croatia is classified as an emerging and developing economy by the International Monetary Fund and a high income economy by the World Bank.

Croatia didn't had any development in the huge and artificial puppet state of Yugoslavia. Everything went in Serbia. Croatia lives better than with Serbia because they are ignorant people oriented to violence and celebrating their lost battles every year.

History of Croatia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Croatia

Prehistoric Croatia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Croatia

Prehistory of Southeastern Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Balkans

Illyria - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyria

Dalmatia (during Roman Empire as Roman province) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatia_(Roman_province)

Dalmatae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatae

History of Dalmatia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Dalmatia

Kingdom of Dalmatia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Dalmatia

Upper Pannonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia_Superior

Lower Pannonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia_Inferior

The area known as Croatia today was inhabited throughout the prehistoric period. Fossils of Neanderthals dating to the middle Paleolithic have been unearthed in the area of Krapina and Vindija. More recent (late Mousterian) Neanderthal remains have been discovered in Mujina pećina near the coast.
In the early Neolithic period, the Starčevo, Vučedol and Hvar cultures were scattered around the region. The Iron Age left traces of the Hallstatt culture (early Illyrians) and the La Tène culture (Celts).
Much later the region was settled by Liburnians and Illyrians, and Greek colonies were established on the islands of Vis (by Dionysius I of Syracuse) and Hvar. In 9 AD the territory of today's Croatia became part of the Roman Empire. Emperor Diocletian built a massive palace in Split where he retired from politics in AD 305. During the 5th century the last Roman Emperor Julius Nepos ruled his small empire from Diocletian's Palace before he was killed in AD 480.
The early history of Croatia ends with the Avar invasion in the first half of the 7th century and the destruction of almost all Roman towns. Roman survivors retreated to strategically better defended points on the coast, islands and mountains. The modern city of Dubrovnik was founded by those survivors.
Ethnogenesis of Croatian people (called White Croats before the migration) started with their emigration from the territory of White Croatia, located in central Europe, to the area of the present day Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina.

* Krapina - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krapina
* Dragutin Gorjanović-Kramberger - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragutin_Gorjanović-Kramberger

* Krapinske Toplice - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krapinske_Toplice
* Kajkavian dialect - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajkavian_dialect
* Ljudevit Gaj - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ljudevit_Gaj

Other dialects in Croatia except Kajkavian dialect are:

Chakavian dialect - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakavian_dialect
Shtokavian dialect - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtokavian_dialect

Vindija Cave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vindija

Serbian Starčevo culture - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starčevo-Körös

Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia

Dark age of Croatian history, this Republic removed every thing Croatian: flag, symbols, coat of arms, national anthem, history. Croatia entered in system of brain washing and cult of personality with useless worshiping of Josip Broz Tito who later tried to destroy his own people Croatians who had aspirations of free Croatia.

Motto of that artificial state was Brotherhood and unity, how ironic. In earlier posts it's visible how Serbians were first nation in Yugoslavia, in Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, they created Chetnik movement. Truth is here and on all websites. You can investigate alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brotherhood_and_unity

National anthem of Yugoslavia: everyone laughed about that anthem, even today, especially Croatians and other population. Even Serbians had never believed in that anthem.

Hey Slavs national anthem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey,_Slavs

Croatia doesn't even have full Slavic heritage. It's a mixture with ancient people Illyrians and Romans. Illyrians doesn't exist anymore. Roman Empire divided in many countries and regions.

Interesting, this anthem was written in Czech and not in Serbian, or Croatian. I don't even understand that language completely. How can I fell the wave of patriotism before football match.

From these words I can only understand this words and I will put them in bold:

Hej, Slováci, ešte naša
slovenská reč žije,
Dokiaľ naše verné srdce
za náš národ bije.
Žije, žije, duch slovenský,
bude žiť na veky,
Hrom a peklo, márne vaše
proti nám sú vzteky!

Vzteky are probably mouth - usta in Croatian, not sure, in Yugoslavia there wasn't even letter Y in their alphabet, nations of ex-Yugoslavia don't have accents above letters, maybe Macedonian asaccents, not sure.

Jazyka dar sveril nám Boh,

boh is probably God, in Croatian Bog.

Boh náš hromovládny,
Nesmie nám ho teda vyrvať
na tom svete žiadny;
I nechže je koľko ľudí,
toľko čertov v svete;
Boh je s nami: kto proti nám,
toho Parom zmetie.
I nechže sa aj nad nami
hrozná búrka vznesie,
Skala puká, dub sa láme
a zem nech sa trasie;
My stojíme stále pevne,
ako múry hradné
Čierna zem pohltí toho,
kto odstúpi zradne!

Interesting, Yugoslavians had national anthem that they could not understand. As a person of Croatian heritage I can only understand this words in bold. Slovenian people can understand much better, others are worse probably in understanding of these words. I didn't watched English translation because I would maybe become less objective.

This was variation of Yugoslav national anthem when it's translated in Serbo-Croatian language, invented language, never existed before.

Serbo-Croatian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Croatian_language

Also Albanians were forced to speak this language, they couldn't speak Albanian, who isn't similar to Slavic Balkan languages. On the right side of this website above, it's visible that Albanian was never official. There were two letters also: Latin and Cyrillic.

The term Serbo-Croatian was mentioned for the first time by Slovene philologist Jernej Kopitar in a letter from 1836, although it cannot be ruled out that he had become acquainted with the term by reading the Slovak philologist Pavel Jozef Šafárik's manuscript "Slovanské starožitnosti" printed 1837. In the mid 19th century, Serbian (led by self-taught writer and folklorist Vuk Stefanović Karadžić) and most Croatian writers and linguists (represented by the Illyrian movement and led by Ljudevit Gaj and Đuro Daničić), proposed the use of the most widespread Štokavian dialect as the base for their common standard language. Karadžić standardised the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet, and Gaj and Daničić standardized the Croatian Latin alphabet, on the basis of vernacular speech phonemes and the principle of phonological spelling. In 1850 Serbian and Croatian writers and linguists signed the Vienna Literary Agreement, declaring their intention to create a unified standard. Thus a complex bi-variant language appeared, which the Serbs officially called "Serbo-Croatian" or "Serbian or Croatian" and the Croats "Croato-Serbian", or "Croatian or Serbian". Yet, in practice, the variants of the conceived common literary language served as different literary variants, chiefly differing in lexical inventory and stylistic devices. The common phrase describing this situation was that Serbo-Croatian or "Croatian or Serbian" was a unified language.

Croatians even in Yugoslavia had better education, Serbian linguist was self-thought. Vuk Stefanović Karadžić - his grammar is often an object of laugh in Croatia. He had only elementary school, this was also doubtful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuk_Stefanović_Karadžić

"Education"

Vuk Karadžić was fortunate to be a relative of Jevta Savić Čotrić, the only literate person in the region at the time, who taught him how to read and write. Karadžić continued his education in Loznica, in the monastery of Tronoša. As a boy he learned calligraphy there, using a reed instead of a pen and a solution of gunpowder for ink. In lieu of proper writing paper he was lucky if he could get cartridge wrappings. Throughout that whole region there was no regular school at that time of Turkish tyranny and his father at first did not allow him to go to Austria. Since most of the time while in the monastery Karadžić was forced to pasture the livestock instead of studying, his father brought him back home. Meanwhile the Serbian insurrection had broken out in 1804. After unsuccessful attempts to enroll in the gymnasium at Sremski Karlovci, for which 19 year-old Karadžić was too old, Karadžić left for Petrinje where he spent a few months learning Latin and German. Later on, he left for Belgrade in order to meet highly respectful scholar of the time Dositej Obradović and ask him to support his studies. Unfortunately, Obradović dismissed him. Disappointed, Karadžić left for Jadar and began working as a scribe for Jakov Nenadović. After erecting the Belgrade Higher School (better known as Grande École or Velika skola), Karadžić became one of its first students.

His family hated Austria, that's why they didn't let him go to study there. He was Serbian leader in education. Because of him Serbians write these football clubs, like this: Mančester Junajtid (Manchester United), Čelzi (Chelsea), Barselona, Bajern Minhen, Liverpul, Notingem, Lids, Njucasl (Newcastle), Internacijonale (Internazionale), Udineze, Đenova (Genoa), Lacio (Lazio).

They write names like Džon (John), (Majkl) Michael, Džordž (George), Giorgio (Đorđo), Friedrich (Fridrih).

Name of cities: New York (Nju Jork), Los Angeles (Los Anđeles).

The same way of using English have Bosnian Serbians and Muslims. Not sure what Montenegrins and Macedonians have. Only I know that Croatian and Slovenes use correct names.

Karadzic followed other nations so that he can form Serbian language.

"Karadžić reformed the Serbian literary language and standardised the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet by following strict phonemic principles on the German model and Jan Hus' Czech alphabet. Karadžić's reforms of the Serbian literary language modernised it and distanced it from Serbian and Russian Church Slavonic, instead bringing it closer to common folk speech, specifically, to the dialect of Eastern Herzegovina which he spoke. Karadžić was, together with Đuro Daničić, the main Serbian signatory to the Vienna Literary Agreement of 1850 which, encouraged by Austrian authorities, laid the foundation for the Serbian language, various forms of which are used by Serbs in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia today. Karadžić also translated the New Testament into Serbian, which was published in 1868. In addition to his linguistic reforms, Karadžić also contributed to folk literature, using peasant culture as the foundation."

Yugoslavian national anthem in English: nothing that has croatian marks, totally erased culture when you compare my earlier posts.

Hey, Slavs, it still lives
the word (spirit) of our grandfathers
As long as the heart of their sons
beats for our nation!
It lives, it lives the Slavic spirit,
It will live for centuries!
Vainly threatens the abyss of Hell
and the fire and the thunder!
Let everything above us now
be shattered by a Bura.
The cliff cracks, the oak breaks,
Let the earth quake!
We stand firmly
like mountains,
Damned be the traitor
of his homeland!


Lets return on Croatia again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia

The Croats arrived in what is today Croatia probably in the early 7th century.They organized into two dukedoms; the duchy of Pannonia in the north and the duchy of Littoral Croatia in the south. Emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus wrote that Porga, Duke of the Dalmatian Croats, who had been invited into Dalmatia by Byzantine Emperor Heraclius, sent to Heraclius for Christian teachers.
According to Constantine, at the request of Heraclius, Pope John IV (640–642) sent Christian teachers and missionaries to the Croatian Provinces. These missionaries converted Porga, and also a great many of the clan that was under his immediate authority, to the Christian faith in 640. The Christianization of the Croats was mostly complete by the 9th century. Both duchies became Frankish vassals in late 8th century, and eventually became independent in the following century.

Porga of Croatia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porga_of_Croatia

The first native Croatian ruler recognized by the Pope was duke Branimir, whom Pope John VIII called dux Croatorum ("duke of Croats") in 879. Duke Tomislav of Littoral Croatia was one of the most prominent members of the House of Trpimirović. He united the Croats of Dalmatia and Pannonia into a single Kingdom in 925. Traditionally it is stated that Tomislav's state extended from the Adriatic Sea to the Drava river, and from the Raša river to the Drina river, but the precise borders are unknown. Under his rule, Croatia became one of the most powerful kingdoms in Medieval Europe.

Tomislav defeated the invasions of the Árpáds in battle and forced them across the Drava. He also annexed a part of Pannonia. This included the area between the rivers Drava, Sava and Kupa, so his Duchy bordered with Bulgaria for a period of time. This was the first time that the two Croatian Realms were united, and all Croats were in one state. The union was later recognised by Byzantium, which gave the royal crown to Stjepan Držislav[18] and papal crown to king Zvonimir. The medieval Croatian kingdom reached its peak during the reign of Kings Petar Krešimir IV (1058–1074) and Zvonimir (1075–1089).

The Kingdom of Croatia existed from its foundation in 925 until the end of World War I, initially as an independent kingdom and later as a crown in multiethnic empires such as the High Kingdom of Hungary, the Habsburg monarchy and Austria-Hungary.

Coronation of King Tomislav: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Oton_Ivekovic,_Krunidba_kralja_Tomislava.jpg

Following the extinction of the Croatian ruling dynasty in 1091, Ladislaus I of Hungary, the brother of Jelena Lijepa, the last Croatian queen, became the king of Croatia. Croatian nobility of the Littoral opposed this crowning, which led to 10 years of war and the recognition of the Hungarian ruler Coloman as the king of Croatia and Hungary in the treaty of 1102 (often referred to as the Pacta conventa). In return, Coloman promised to maintain Croatia as a separate kingdom, not to settle Croatia with Hungarians, to guarantee Croatia's self-governance under a Ban, and to respect all the rights, laws and privileges of the Croatian Kingdom. During this union, the Kingdom of Croatia never lost the right to elect its own king, had the ruling dynasty become extinct. In 1293 and 1403.

Croatian royal families didn't have children, that's why it was easy to Hungarians to take us under their crown.

Jelena Lijepa - eng. Helen II of Croatia, or Helen II the Beautiful, Lijepa means Beautiful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelena_Lijepa

Ladislaus I of Hungary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladislaus_I_of_Hungary

Following the death of King Dmitar Zvonimir on April 20, 1089, who had been married to Ladislaus' sister Ilona, the new King of Croatia, who had grown old and had never married, Stephen II, was taken out of his monastery and crowned. With his death in 1091 the Croatian ruling dynasty ended and Ladislaus proclaimed his claim to kingdom as closest living relative of Croatian ruling dynasty. Ladislaus' alternative, but much weaker claim, had been based in Byzantine legal traditions in which it is the right of an emperor's widow to choose his successor and Ilona had declared her support for him. In 1091, Hungarian troops entered Croatia.
However, this action provoked a counter move by the Byzantine Emperor Alexios I. He enlisted the aid of the Cumans and persuaded them to invade the eastern parts of Hungary. Upon hearing of the Cuman invasion, Ladislaus withdrew from Croatia and lead his armies against them. In the meantime, he founded a new bishopric in Zagreb during 1094. He eventually won a decisive victory over them near the river Temes. Ladislaus followed up his victory by his occupation of Szerém and Beograd, areas under Byzantine control. Emperor Alexios I, however, sent fresh nomad troops against Hungary which forced Ladislaus to leave Byzantine territory. It was probably King Ladislaus I who planted in Transylvania the Székely in order to defend the eastern parts of the Kingdom of Hungary against foreign invasions.
In the autumn of 1091, Pope Urban II sent a legate to Ladislaus' court and demanded that Ladislaus accept his supremacy over Croatia. Ladislaus refused this claim and he probably accepted the legitimacy of Antipope Clement III, who had been elected by the followers of the Holy Roman Emperor.
The country was completely subjugated by 1096, and it was incorporated into Hungary.

Coloman, King of Hungary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloman_of_Hungary

Coloman changed Hungary's foreign policy. While his predecessor had asked for the Holy Roman Emperor's help (instead of the pope's) when waging war on Croatia, Coloman wanted to stay on good terms with the Holy See. In the spring of 1097, he married Felicia, a daughter of Count Roger I of Sicily who was a close ally of the popes.
Shortly afterwards, Coloman led his armies against Petar Svačić, who had been proclaimed king of Croatia, and won a decisive victory over the Croat armies at the Battle of Gvozd Mountain, and reoccupied the country.
In 1097, he made good Hungary’s claim to Croatia by overthrowing King Petar Svačić of Croatia, and by 1102 Coloman controlled the greater part of Dalmatia.

* Petar Svacic - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petar_Svačić

Petar Svačić was the last monarch of the independent kingdom of Croatia. He was elected king by Croatian feudal lords in 1093. Petar's seat of power was based in Knin. His rule was marked by a struggle for control of the country with Hungary. During his reign he was able to expel Prince Álmos from Slavonia, and unite Croatia to the river Drava. According to Juraj Utješinović, alias Frater Georgius, first Croatian cardinal, Petar was born in Kamičak (above river Krka canyon), Croatia. He died in 1097 and was the last native king of Croatia (reigned 1093–1097).

Hungarians were also bad, not like Austrians.

Pacta conventa (Croatia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacta_conventa_(Croatia)

Republic of Ragusa

Dubrovnik - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubrovnik

Republic of Ragusa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ragusa

The city of Dubrovnik/Ragusa was founded in 7th century after Avar and Slavic raiders destroyed the Roman city of Epidaurum. The surviving Roman population escaped to a small island near the coast where they founded a new settlement. During the Fourth Crusade the city fell under control of the Republic of Venice until the 1358 Zadar treaty when Venice, defeated by the Hungarian kingdom, lost control of Dalmatia and the Republic of Ragusa became a tributary of that kingdom.
Through the next 450 years the Republic of Ragusa would be a tributary Republic protected by Ottomans and Habsburgs until Napoleon abolished it in 1808 when Ragusa, Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia was briefly the Illyrian Provinces. During this time the republic became rich through trade.
The republic became the most important publisher of Croatian literature during the Renaissance and Baroque periods. Aside from poets and writers like Marin Držić and Ivan Gundulić, whose works were important for Croat literature development, the most famous person from the Republic of Dubrovnik was the scientist Ruđer Josip Bošković, who was a member of the Royal Society and the Russian Academy of Sciences. The republic would survive until 1808 when it was annexed by Napoleon. Today the city of Dubrovnik features on the UNESCO World Heritage Site list and is a famous tourist destination.

Croatian–Ottoman Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian–Ottoman_Wars

Ottoman–Hungarian (Croatia included) Wars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman–Hungarian_Wars

Ottoman–Habsburg (Croatia included) wars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman–Habsburg_wars

Shortly after the Battle of Mohács, the Habsburgs unsuccessfully sought to stabilise the borders between the Ottoman Empire and the Kingdom of Croatia by creating a captaincy in Bihać. However, in 1529, the Ottoman army swept through the area and captured Buda and besieged Vienna; an event which brought violence and turmoil to the Croatian border areas (see Ottoman wars in Europe). After the failure of the first military operations, the Kingdom of Croatia was split into civilian and military units in 1553. The latter became Croatian Krajina and Slavonian Krajina and both eventually became parts of the Croatian Military Frontier which was directly under the control of Vienna.

Ottoman raids on Croatian territory continued until the Battle of Sisak in 1593, after which the borders stabilised for some time. The kingdom of that time became known as the Reliquiae reliquiarum olim inclyti Regni Croatiae ("The remains of the once famous Kingdom of Croatia"). An important battle during this time was the Battle of Szigetvár (1566), when 2,300 soldiers under the leadership of Croatian ban Nikola Šubić Zrinski held back for two months 100,000 Ottoman soldiers led by Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, fighting to the last man. Cardinal Richelieu was reported to have called the event "the battle that saved civilization."

2300 Croatians against 100 000, sounds far combat, and yet Croatian ban Subic got victory against Ottoman Empire. Ottoman pyrrhic victory

Siege of Szigetvár:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Szigetvár

During more than two centuries of Ottoman wars, Croatia underwent great demographic changes. The Croats left the riverland areas of Gacka, Lika and Krbava, Moslavina in Slavonia, and an area in present day north-western Bosnia to move towards Austria where they remained and the present day Burgenland Croats are direct descendants of these settlers. To replace the fleeing Croats, the Habsburgs called on the Orthodox populations of Bosnia and Serbia to provide military service in Croatian and Slavonian Krajina. Serbian migration into this region, which had started in the 16th century, peaked during the Great Serb Migrations of 1690 and 1737–39. The rights and obligations of new populace of the Military frontier were decided with the Statuta Valachorum in 1630.

Kingdom of Slavonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Slavonia

Hungarian Revolution of 1848 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_revolution_of_1848

The Croatian answer to the Hungarian revolution of 1848 was a declaration of war. Austrian, Croatian and Russian forces together defeated the Hungarian army in 1849 and the following 17 years were remembered in Croatia and Hungary for the policy of Germanization.

The eventual failure of this policy resulted in the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 and the creation of a monarchic union between the crowns of the Austrian Empire and the Kingdom of Hungary. The treaty left unanswered the question of the status of Croatia. The following year the Croatian and Hungarian parliaments created a constitution for union of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia and the Kingdom of Hungary.

After the Ottoman Empire lost military control over Bosnia and Herzegovina, Austria-Hungary abolished Croatian Krajina and Slavonian Krajina, restoring the territories to Croatia in 1881. During the second half of the 19th century pro-Hungarian and pro-Austrian political parties played Croats against Serbs with the aim of controlling the parliament. This policy failed in 1906 when a Croat-Serb coalition won the elections. The newly created political situation remained unchanged until the advent of World War I.

Illyrian movement:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_movement

The Illyrian movement (Croatian: Ilirski pokret, Slovene: Ilirsko gibanje), also Croatian national revival (Hrvatski narodni preporod), was a cultural and political campaign initiated by a group of young Croatian intellectuals during the first half of 19th century, around the years of 1835–1849 (there is some disagreement regarding the official dates). This movement aimed to create a Croatian national establishment in Austria-Hungary through linguistic and ethnic unity among South Slavs.

In 19th century Europe, liberalism and nationalism were ideologies which came to the forefront of political culture. In Central Europe, where the Habsburg Empire had long asserted control over a variety of ethnic and cultural groups, nationalism appeared in a standard format. The beginning of the 19th century "was the period when the smaller, mostly Slavic nationalities of the empire - Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes, Croats, Serbs, Ukrainians - remembered their historical traditions, revived their native languages as literary languages, reappropriated their traditions and folklore, in short reasserted their existence as nations."

In 1813, the bishop of Zagreb Maksimilijan Vrhovac issued a plea for the collection of "national treasures" (Poziv na sve duhovne pastire svoje biskupije), thereby heralding the national revival movement.

Just as Croatia felt nationalistic stirrings at this time, so did its larger neighbors, Hungary and Austria. Croats were uneasy with rising Hungarian nationalism, which pursued reduction of the Croatian autonomy and increased Magyarization. In order to preserve their autonomy, Croats pursued a deepening of their culture and a revival of their heritage.

Hungarians started first to raise nationalism. Theytried to insert Hungarian language for all Croatians as official language. Because of that Croatians tried to unite with South Slavic nations: Serbians, Bosnians, Macedonians, Montenegrin, Slovenes. It was big error. With HUngarians it was easier to negotiate than against Serbians and their Chetnik movement.

In the beginning of the 1830s, a group of young Croatian writers gathered in Zagreb and established a movement for national renewal and unity of all South Slavs within the Habsburg Monarchy. The city of Zagreb had become an important center of political, economic, and cultural activity, so it was the center of the movement. Count Janko Drašković published his Dissertation in 1832, a pamphlet that later came to be considered the political, economic, social and cultural program of the movement, as it promoted the native language as official, more autonomy from central government, and better education and enlightenment for the common people.
The most important focus of the new Illyrians was the establishment of a standard language as a counter-weight to Hungarian, and the promotion of Croatian written literature and official culture. Ljudevit Gaj was instrumental in providing the foundation for the flourishing of the Croatian literature. Gaj was in fact the leader of the movement as a whole in the beginning for eight or nine years, at which point the leadership changed hands.

Gaj was largely responsible for writing the Croatian orthography and grammar (Kratka osnova horvatsko-slavenskog pravopisanja – Brief basics of the Croatian-Slavonic orthography), which was necessary before a literary movement would be successful.

Choosing "Illyrian" as their title was a symbolic gesture on the part of movement members and leadership, an attempt to bring the history of the Croatian people to the forefront. It is somewhat comparable to the French recalling the Gauls, as Croatia was once part of ancient Illyria.
The Illyrian name was first revived during the Napoleonic Wars, when the French gave the name Illyrian Provinces to the Adriatic possessions acquired from the Austrian Empire in 1809. After 1813, when the territories were again included into the Austrian Empire, the Austrians kept the denomination and formed the Kingdom of Illyria, which comprised mostly the Slovene Lands.

The most influential writers within the movement were Ivan Mažuranić and Petar Preradović. Mažuranić contributed his epic Smrt Smail-age Čengića during this time, and Preradović published love lyrics.
Other notable literary contributions were made by Antun Mihanović (notably Horvatska Domovina which later became Our Beautiful Homeland), Stanko Vraz (satiric lyrics), Ljudevit Vukotinović (romantic lyrics), Dimitrija Demeter (prose, notably Grobničko polje, and drama), Ivan Kukuljević Sakcinski (prose), Antun Nemčić (prose and itineraries). There was also the first notable itinerary Pogled u Bosnu by Matija Mažuranić.
After the government allowed the publishing of newspapers in Croatian in 1834, the new Illyrians issued the first Croatian newspaper, "Novine hrvatsko-slavonsko-dalmatinske", in 1835, establishing Croatian journalism. The paper was edited by Ljudevit Gaj and it also had a literary magazine "Danica" attached, both of which printed in Gaj's "National print" (Narodna tiskara). These literary successes "ultimately won intellectual, linguistic, and educational...independence for Croatia."

In 1836, the papers were renamed to use the Illyrian name (Ilirske novine, Danica ilirska). In 1838, Janko Drašković helped found a reading room in Zagreb which served as a meeting place for the first "Illyrians".
In another cultural success, in 1846 the composer Vatroslav Lisinski wrote the first opera in Croatian, "Ljubav i zloba" (Love and malice).
The Illyrian movement, while concentrating on Croatian lands, was quite nationally inclusive, as it included many non-Croats. For example, Petar Preradović was an ethnic Serb, as was Josif Runjanin, Stanko Vraz was an ethnic Slovene, and Dimitrija Demetar was an ethnic Greek or Aromanian.

Prof that Croatians never tried to get Great Croatia beyond their borders, Croatians collected experts no matter what ethnicity they were. Vatroslav Lisinski was Jewish, real name Ignac Fuchs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatroslav_Lisinski

In 1840, the Illyrian movement suffered an internal setback when Slovenian Stanko Vraz, Joakim Rakovac and Ljudevit Vukotinović split off from the movement due to creative differences in poetry. In 1842 they started publishing their own literary newspaper named Kolo.
More importantly, the movement was not well received by Hungarians and pro-Hungarian nobility. In 1843, the use of the Illyrian name was banned.
Struggles in Croatian Sabor were so harsh that they caused unrest on Zagreb streets. On July 29, 1845, violent conflict causing bloodshed took place on Marko's square, later known as the "July victims". Even still, Hungarian officials were unable to crush the movement.

On October 23, 1847, Croatian Ivan Kukuljević Sakcinski spoke in Sabor in favor of introducing Croatian as the official language instead of Latin, and the deputies subsequently unanimously voted in favor of that proposition.
The movement practically ceased to exist due to the Revolutions of 1848. In 1849, the Emperor Francis Joseph imposed a new constitution, all political dissent was censored, and the Danica went out of print.

Croatian error: unity with ignorant linguist Vuk Karadzic.

The movement's plea for unity among the Slavs, particularly South Slavs, also found supporters among prominent Serbs of the time, most notably Vuk Stefanović Karadžić, the reformer of Serbian language. Croatian Ljudevit Gaj had, in fact, appealed to Serbia (along with Dalmatia and Russia) for moral and financial support given their ethnic and cultural connections.
In 1850, a small group of Illyrian and Serbian representatives signed the "Vienna agreement" which in effect proclaimed the southern Shtokavian dialect to be the standard, common language of Serbs and Croats, with Serbian Cyrillic and Croatian Latin alphabet as equal letters. The agreement was the basis of standardizing the Serbo-Croatian language.

Vienna Literary Agreement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_agreement

The Illyrian movement was the first and most prominent Pan-Slavic movement in Croatian history.
The Illyrian movement was successful in its goals for culture. "Where there was no precedent for nineteenth-century concepts like Czechoslovak or Illyrian nationhood these projects failed. Nationalism took hold insofar as it built on existing realities, historical, linguistic or social." The period of the Illyrian movement is today referred to as the "Croatian national revival".

Ivan Kukuljević Sakcinski: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Kukuljević_Sakcinski

Rise of nationalism under the Ottoman Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_awakening_in_the_Balkans

The movement formed the basis for a common Serbo-Croatian language, and it fostered support in Croatia for the later creation of Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes in 1918. However, in its ultimate goals of creating an Illyrian state, the movement failed. This failure of the idea to achieve Serbian-Croatian unity was apparent with the occurrence of the bloody Yugoslav wars. Furthermore, increasing Croatian nationalism back-fired on pan-Slavic ideals because a Croatian identity evolved and superseded the "Illyrian" hopes.

When Croatian entered in union with South Slavic nations, that was introduction to mutual wars on that space.

Croatians than came in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia

After that Serbians tried to destroy Croatians by forming Great Serbia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia_in_the_Kingdom_of_Yugoslavia

Banovina of Croatia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banovina_of_Croatia

After that World War II came, after that new Yugoslavia, after that Republic of Croatia. Many battles, wars, revolutions. I think that it's visible in my posts that Croatians were most attacked nation because of their best position and natural beauties which you will see in my further pots. These battles achieved large Croatian diaspora, changing states, cities, many killed, torched people, just so that they have what is good: Croatian history, culture, language, national anthem, flag and coat of arms. To Croatian enemies these terms always were prerequisite to attack Croatians. We had 1000 years of battles, turbulent history, but we still exist, we existed in the past, presence and in the future - forever. Serbian way against their enemies is always: He cried, but never got comforted.

 

Serbians like to use curses a lot.

Serbian Hilandar curse​

Here is one horrible curse of Serbian people against all no-Orthodox people, especially those who accept Vatican and Roman Catholic Church. Croatians, Austrians, Slovenes and many other Western European and world nations accepts Vatican. Serbians always looked on people by their nation and religion. They only respect Orthodox brothers and Serbians. Serbians like Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Russians, Romanians, Macedonians, Belarus..etc. Others aren't respected in Serbia. They proclaim them as Satans and destroyers of Srpstvo (Serbian)., like war criminal Vojislav Seselj, who wrote really offensive books, also visible in my posts. They have close connections with Orthodox football clubs, that comes from these countries.

This is a Serbian curse against all Vatican worshipers and non-Orthodox people, that means almost whole world, many words have archaic roots, but it's understandable, you can put that curse in Google Translator:

Hate directed against the whole world:

http://amac.hrvati-amac.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=405&Itemid=59

I will put this in Google Translator this:

1. Section

Good Lord and the Virgin
And Sunday fog Empress
What is heard, but laments a lot
Throughout our country echoes?
Is it a church without loud bells?
Is it monastery without a holy icon?
Are they stand up voices of slaves?
Are they cold bones from the graves?
Nor is the church without loud ringtones
Nor monastery without the holy icons,
Nor are states (voices) of stand up slaves
Nor were the bones from the cold graves,
But the curse of the sacred sound,
Our country painfully echoes.
Curse roars from Hilandar villa
From Hilandar, from Saint Sava altar
Vila curses, saints of the holy earthquake
Wakes from sleep all saints wonder workers,
Immortal God of pleasure,
Serbian church and famous patrons
Well, this villa speaks:
Whoever is a Serb and Serbian race,
And of Serbian blood and birth,
Let the voice be heard from the sacred altar
As the Lord traitors punishes.
Rome and the Pope, the Jesuit-mouth paw
Slavery forged and cunningly devise,
Our Serbian church to be bound,
In slavery and in chains angry,
Do we honor and sanctities fetter,
That we deleted from the earth's face
To Rome and the papal chair required.
I still hear that in the Serbian race
Living germ shameless traitors,
Sh*ty, hired by Pope,
Which will spit in your face,
For coins of papal chair.
Who votes for their concordat
God is great and its villas
Ordered and fulfilled:
His mouth should turn around the neck,
Illness at his home should live.

Any way, this curse is directed against non-Serbians, Guba is medieval illness.
Izmecari are people of sh*t. Hilandar of Saint Sava is monestary in today's Greece. This is the location of this Serbian sanctuary, one of most important, Saint Sava is everything for them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilandar

Section 2., you can also put those sections alone in Google Translator:

Both of his eyes dug out,
Where he ranged (traveled) never arrived,
From what he escapes could not ever escaped,
Turned upside-down feet,
With dogs he should fight for the bone,
From dog dish he should drink
Chains should wear around his neck,
So with chains and pole jumps,
Dog rubbish it should be his food,
And he should wrapp black veil around his face,
His home should rain extinguish,
His blood, dog bitch should drink, God.
In the canine grave he should rest,
Horseshoe should he get as his shoes,
Easter eggs never paints (colors)
And alone should he tore up his intestines.
The neck should he broke on Vavedenije holiday,
Roar like a crazy dog on Voskresenije, (Voskresenije is also Serbian holiday - Resurrection)
Serbian glory he should never celebrate,
Neither lamps in the house ablaze. (turn on)
God should his baptismal candle extinguish.
God is great and His power
In the field, his semen should turn into stones,
Through jaws should his tongue come out.
Hair lathe cold stones,
Sickle vely of snakes thorns.
Tie up with the horse's compass
A beggary should be his everyday sentence.
Carried many heavy pounds to his land of blackness,
In his house should serpent winter,
On the ridge sleeping jackdaw,
Darkness to him, but should never get the light,
He should cry, but never get his comfort,
Jajine brought him wounds, (don't know what jajine means, Serbian word)
A witch-related with his happiness.
He should never know the way right or left, (always lost)
Nor marry, nor be happy,
He should never to God pray,
Do dogs by mercury destroyed,
Next to dogs of leprosy blown off.
With winter wintered sea urchins,
On the tails of horses he should die.

Terrible. Some words couldn't be translated.

Section 3.

Someone else's eyes, the earth took him
Other people's feet in supplication, worn
His happiness among people vanished
As the spider webs in the mountains.
God is great and His power
Ordered and fulfilled.
Since cook wheat stones,
To catch water in a sieve.
Dog meat eating frenzy,
A nest on his head wearing.
Dying, do not refrain die
Decays, and not be disbanded.
The Chronicles is a serious turn.
On his head rested on his knees,
Wind the hair of him wearing,
Crust of bread the roadside begging,
Lived with the mocha inflicted,
The grave digging his hands to himself.
His house is moaning echoed,
In the house of his mouth is not spoken.
God is great and His power
All his cold sweat in ice​

Section 4.

In a moment to stone turned.
What was born to God commanded
All his cold sweat in ice
In a moment to stone turned.
What was born to God commanded
All he was lame and the blind,
No eyes in the fire fell.
All the fire burned him alive,
What fire could not burn,
It took him muddy water.
House of the Lord has turned his
The nest of snakes and scorpions,
The crow and the owl habitat,
The burned and the ashes.
He bemoaned the birds cuckoo,
And his eyes saw leeches.
Since it is a level of lepers,
From the house he remained cinders.
Amin, God and the Virgin
And Sunday holy empress,
To let him overtake race traitors
Shameful servants of papal chair!

 

Was it hard to guess that I am Croatian? Many people of ex-Yugoslavia think that they have the right on Croatian territory. In many of their heads war isn't over yet. Needed to show some proofs, I tried to be objective. And I think that I did it. But it was boring for me to read all this stuff. To many complicated information, but I had some free time. EuroStick has his point of view that is offensive to Croatians and he can put that view on Bosnian theme and not enter here as offensive with cheap words how all nations were equal and that Yugoslavia was promised land and especially he is pretending that Bosnian Muslims didn't do anything wrong during the war. Muslims supported Serbians, than they came to Croatians after Serbians disturbed them. They were always like the wind, direction changers. When you see just Yugoslavia vehicles everything is more clearer what did that country involved. Also I saw here communist lovers here. They are rare people. Their red star looks pail since all this years. Brain washers with fist on their head. Ucranians died from hunger under communism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

And this is communist pride?

 

List of Yugoslavia national football team goalscorers:

I found one interesting page about goalscorers in Yugoslav national football team. Their heritage is also visible, but today's Serbia got all Yugoslavian results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yugoslavia_national_football_team_goalscorers

This is a list of Yugoslavia national football team goalscorers with at least five goals. So we don't have here the players that scored less than 5 goals.

Player Goals
Stjepan Bobek (Croat) 38
Milan Galić (Serb) 37
Blagoje Marjanović (Serb) 36
Rajko Mitić (Serb) 32
Dušan Bajević (Serb) 29
Todor Veselinović (Serb) 28
Borivoje Kostić (Serb) 26
Zlatko Vujović (Croat) 25 He is probably Bosnian Montenegrin player, but he likes the idea to be Croat. Who could blame him.
Dragan Džajić (Serb) 23
Bernard Vukas (Croat) 22
Safet Sušić (Bosniak Muslim) 21
Slaven Zambata (Croat) 21
Đorđe Vujadinović (Serb) 18
Muhamed Mujić (Bosniak Muslim) 17
Darko Pančev (Macedonian) 17
Branko Zebec (Croat) 17
Miloš Milutinović (Serb) 16
Aleksandar Živković (Croat) 15
Željko Čajkovski (Croat) 12
Aleksandar Tirnanić (Serb) 12
Dražan Jerković (Croat) 11
Zdravko Rajkov (Serb) 11
Josip Skoblar (Croat) 11
Josip Bukal (Croat) 10
Ivan Hitrec (Croat) 10
Josip Katalinski 10 - unknown heritage, born in Bosnia and Herzegovina, played in Dinamo Zagreb, maybe Polish, or Ukraine heritage. His name Josip is Croatian common name.
Ivica Šurjak (Croat) 9
Svetislav Glišović (Serb) 9
Vahidin Musemić (Bosniak Muslim) 9
Vahid Halilhodžić (Bosniak Muslim) 8
Tomislav Knez (Croat) 8
Ivica Osim (Bosnian) 8 - He represents himself as Bosnian. Sometimes he is Yugoslav, but his name is probably Croatian, last name of unknown heritage.
Aleksandar Petaković (Serb) 8
Branislav Sekulić (Serb) 8
Dragan Stojković (Serb) 8
Aleksandar Tomašević (Serb) 8
Zlatko Čajkovski (Croat) 7
Tihomir Ognjanov 7 (Serb)
Dejan Savićević (Montenegrin) 7
Rudolf Belin (Croat) 6
Faruk Hadžibegić (Bosniak Muslim) 6
Jure Jerković (Croat) 6
Frane Matošić (Croat) 6
Prvoslav Mihajlović (Serb) 6
Branko Oblak (Slovene) 6
Ilija Petković (Serb) 6 Born in Croatian city of Knin.
Dragoslav Šekularac (Serb) 6 His mother is Macedonian.
Fadilj Vokri (Albanian) 6
Franjo Wolfl (Croat) 6
Vojin Božović 5 (Montenegrin)
Jovan Jezerkić (Serb) 5
Srećko Katanec (Croat) 5 He is of Slovene heritage, but he has Croatian heritage, I putted him before as Slovene, so it's fair that he stays as Slovene, even though he is of Croat heritage. He played in Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia.
Željko Matuš (Croat) 5
Vladimir Petrović (Serb) 5
Aleksandar Petrović (Serb) 5
Danilo Popivoda (Montenegrin) 5
Kosta Tomašević (Serb) 5

One player isn't here, because he scored 0 goals for Yugoslavia, he was defender, but it's fair that he is here.

Fahrudin Jusufi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrudin_Jusufi
He is of Gorani Muslim origin.

I'll try to find other players that scored less than fieve goals for Yugoslav football national team.

Yugoslavia had 19 players of Croatian heritage that scored above 5 goals.
Yugoslavia had 24 players of Serbian heritage that scored above 5 goals.
Yugoslavia had 5 players of Bosniak (Muslim) heritage that scored above 5 goals.
Yugoslavia had 3 players of Montenegrin heritage that scored above 5 goals.
Yugoslavia had 1 player of Bosnian heritage that scored above 5 goals.
Yugoslavia had 1 player of Macedonian heritage that scored above 5 goals.
Yugoslavia had 1 player of Albanian heritage that scored above 5 goals.
Yugoslavia had 1 player of Unknown heritage that scored above 5 goals.

We need to see also the players who scored less than five goals. Also there were members of Croatian Golden Generation players that also had big influence in Yugoslavia at the end of 80's, who were one of the best players on World Cup 1990, Italy.

Croatian players:

Ico Hitrec scored ten goals for Kingdom of Yugoslavia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ico_Hitrec

Slavko Kodrnja scored four goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavko_Kodrnja

Zlatko Papec scored four goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatko_Papec

Vladimir Kragić scored four goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kragić

August Lešnik scored four goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Lešnik

Robert Prosinečki scored four goals for the Yugoslav national team. His mother is of Serbian heritage.

Zlatko Kranjčar scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatko_Kranjčar

Leo Lemešić scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Lemešić

Zvonimir Cimermančić scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvonimir_Cimermančić

Franjo Vladić scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franjo_Vladić

Blaž Slišković scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaž_Slišković

Ivan Gudelj cored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Gudelj

Ljubo Benčić scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ljubo_Benčić

Ante Žanetić scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Žanetić

Igor Štimac scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Štimac

Davor Jozić scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davor_Jozić

Nenad Gračan scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team. He is probably of Serbian heritage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nenad_Gračan

Ivan Buljan scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Buljan

Zoran Vujović scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team. He is probably of Montegrin heritage, but he represents him self as Croatian, like his twin brother Zlatko.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoran_Vujović

Velimir Zajec scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velimir_Zajec

Mišo Krstičević scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mišo_Krstičević

Andrija Anković scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrija_Anković

Damir Desnica scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team. He is probably of Serbian heritage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damir_Desnica

Dražen Mužinić scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dražen_Mužinić

Milan Antolković scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Antolković

Davor Suker scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davor_Šuker

Zoran Vulić scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoran_Vulić

Franjo Rupnik scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franjo_Rupnik

Zvonimir Boban scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvonimir_Boban

Robert Jarni scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jarni

Serbian players:

Kingdom of Yugoslavia was before World War II, 1918–1941. First FIFA competition was 1930 year. Serbia couldn't have big influence in achieving results.

Blagoje Marjanović scored 36 goals for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blagoje_Marjanović

Đorđe Vujadinović scored 18 goals for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Đorđe_Vujadinović

Svetislav Glišović scored nine goals for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetislav_Glišović

Svetislav Valjarević scored four goals for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetislav_Valjarević

Dragan Jovanović scored four goals for Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragan_Jovanović

Dušan Savić scored four goals for Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dušan_Savić

Zvezdan Čebinac scored four goals for Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvezdan_Čebinac

Nenad Bjeković scored four goals for Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nenad_Bjeković

Marko Valok scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Valok

Todor Živanović scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todor_Živanović

Dušan Petković scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dušan_Petković_(footballer_born_1903)

Stanoje Jocić scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanoje_Jocić

Velibor Vasović scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velibor_Vasović

Kuzman Sotirović scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuzman_Sotirović

Slobodan Santrač scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.

Vladan Lukić scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladan_Lukić

Vujadin Stanojković scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team. He was born in Macedonia, played for Macedonian NT, but he is of Serbian heritage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vujadin_Stanojković

Predrag Spasić scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predrag_Spasić

Radmilo Mihajlović scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radmilo_Mihajlović

Dragiša Binić scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragiša_Binić

Montenegrin players:

Predrag Mijatović Wikipedia mixed his goals, he couldn't score more than 1,2 goals for Yugoslavia, because he started to play in the year 1989 for Yugoslav NT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predrag_Mijatović

Dragoljub Brnović scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragoljub_Brnović

Bosniak Muslim players:

Mirsad Baljić scored three goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirsad_Baljić

Semir Tuce scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semir_Tuce

Mehmed Baždarević scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_Baždarević

Jasmin Džeko scored two goals for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmin_Džeko

Sulejman Halilović scored one goal for the Yugoslav national team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulejman_Halilović

Haven't searched for all players, you could see alone, if you have time for players of Dinamo Zagreb, Hajduk Split, Crvena Zvezda, Partizan Belgrade, Velez Mostar, Zeljeznicar Sarajevo or any of other clubs, but these were the clubs with biggest quality back than. There you have plenty of players that could playe for Yugoslav national team. Also, do not mix Yugoslavia after 1990. with Yugoslavia before 1990. Serbia took the name Yugoslavia after 1990, because of that they probably got all results, they wanted "to protect" Yugoslavia.

But it's also visible from my list of players that it's not fair that Serbia got all results in every sport, same situation was in other sports; basketball, handball, tennis, volleyball, water polo, winter sports (Slovenia was best country in winter sports). It's interesting to see how Serbia had a big influence in every aspect. It would be fair that no one got these results. Yugoslavia should be legacy of all countries, even though some of them didn't had influence in sports. But it's not fair that Serbia got all results. Now you see that Croatia isn't some new country on football map. Croatia always had great sports background, especially in team sports. Croatian player Stjepan Bobek was the top scorer of Yugoslav national team. Also you need to count that was big repression against non-Serbian people in Yugoslavia, many of them couldn't play for Yugoslavia, Serbian nepotism.

Notable players in Yugoslavia:

NK Hajduk Split: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:HNK_Hajduk_Split_players

NK Dinamo Zagreb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:GNK_Dinamo_Zagreb_players

Red Star Belgrade:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Red_Star_Belgrade_footballers

Partizan Belgrade:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FK_Partizan_players

Zeljeznicar Sarajevo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FK_Željezničar_Sarajevo_players

FK Sarajevo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Sarajevo

Velez Mostar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Velež_Mostar

This is the list of best football clubs in Yugoslav national football league, you can also search who played for Yugoslav national team. Not very interesting job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_First_League

Interesting information from Yugoslav national league:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAŠK_Sarajevo

NK SAŠK Napredak is a football club from Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina. It came into existence in 2000 through the merger of SAŠK with NK Napredak .
SAŠK's history traces back to 1910 when Sarajevski amaterski športski klub (Sarajevo Amateur Sports Club) or SAŠK, was founded. After World War II ended, SAŠK was banned by the authorities of Communist Yugoslavia because of its participation in the Croatian First League during the war in what was then Axis-allied Croatia. SAŠK was re-founded in 1999.
NK Napredak was formed in 1994 by the Croat cultural society of the same name.
Two teams merged in 2000 to form the current club.
Since the 2000/2001 season, the club has been in the First League of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
The club is part of HKD Napredak (Croatian Cultural Society 'Progress'). It organizes a futsal tournament around Christmas every year.

 

First of all, my name is Carmelino, not Carmillo.
Theme is about Croatian players in Yugoslav national team. I wanted to demonstrate that Croatia and some other republics also had influence in Yugoslav national team, not just to Serbia that took everything and still tries to decline Croatian existence by stopping her to celebrate their holidays. Serbia comes from Latin word: servia, servus, wich means servants or slaves and now they are saying that they are servants to God. And their God told them that they should destroy Croatia and Croats by crossing Serbian border and entering in Croatia so that they can join with Serbian rebels in Croatia? They took Yugoslav weapon, heritage of all nations. You don't talk about their nationalism, they took every Yugoslav result in every sport. This legacy is from all nations, not just Serbian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servia

You are making this subject off topic, demonstrating your nationalistic view of declining Croatian and Serbian ethnicity in Bosnia and Herzegovina and supporting non-existing Bosnian nationality. Muslims in Croatia are always Muslims, they never say: We are Croats. You took Bosniak name before maybe 10 years, Bosniak is the name of medieval Bosnian citizen, Croats and Serbs. If you are "Bosnian" can you show me your flag (not this EU flag), show me the lyrics of your anthem, now you have only melody, show me your language (not Croatian language that you have modified a little), show me your currency, you have ex-German currency: Convertible Mark, because German Mark was always popular in Bosnia and Herzegovina, also with German cars. Others are laughing to your currency, you have many Muslim people on that money with one or two Croatian and Serbian prominent persons. You are trying to form Turkish state in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Short variation of your currency is KM, others laugh on that saying kilometers (km). Give me 100 kilometers.

CBBH Governing Board in March 2009 withdrawn some Bosnian denominations. Are Croats also owners of this institution?

Bosnian currency:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina_convertible_mark

Economy of Bosnia and Herzegovina: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina

You took Croatian and Serbian forms of your last names, you took French coat of arms: lilies. Can you show me your Yugoslav passport if you are Yugoslav? Many Turkish words entered in Bosnian standard language, Croats have much less of Turkish words, others are changed, you can see here Turkish words that entered in "Bosnian" language. You took everything from others, you took Turkish cuisine.

Turkish words in Bosnian language, Croats don't have these words in their standard language:

http://www.balkanium.com/forum/show...rkish-words-in-Serbocroatian-Bosnian-language

Bosnia and Herzegovina cuisine, filled with Turkish names:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina_cuisine

Croatian cuisine is much richer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_cuisine

I don't know where do you see anything nationalistic in my posts. I always put links on everything. Is Wikipedia also nationalistic virtual encyclopedia? They got all these information from books, not from birds.

Turkish words in bold type have entered in Croatian standard language. Croatian educated linguists, not self-thought linguists like Serbian Vuk Karadzic, had always Croatian words for foreign words, this is the richness of our heritage. Foreign words left mainly in street talk. With them I am also proud, because they demonstrate how many cultures tried to conquer Croatia. Majority of foreign nations tried to destroy Croatia and Croatian language by replacing their languages as our official languages. No pasaran!

http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turcizam

You can see now how hard is to create your own heritage, it's easy to took heritage from others. Muslims don't have heritage in Bosnia and Herzegovina, they are like sunflowers so that they can achieve their lowest goals. Learn history first of all, look for Ottoman Empire viziers, they were all Croats, Serbians, Greeks, Italians, Albanians in the beginning. After them they send Ottoman viziers that have origins from Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ottoman_Grand_Viziers

Also I am having troubles to understand your "English" language. Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore. You are trying to forge history of Croatia and Croats, luckily we have historic proofs. You can promote false "Bosniak nation", but everyone can see that you have the youngest heritage on Peninsula, because you are declining your Croatian and Serbian heritage. You said nationalistic words how heavy drinker and Muslim singer Halid Beslic and Serbian lover of the queens of the night Mile Kitic should write Bosnian national anthem. With these words you are declining Croatian nationality in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

You have demonstrated your Muslim nationalistic rage in Bosnia during the "friendly" match against Croatia. This is true Bosnia and their "true" love for other nations in that country. Croats tried to make first step in achieving peace, look how you were noble and pleasant here with words "Kill, kill Croats". Why are you shaming now of these videos. Croats are owners of Youtube also?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AneKzS0zpQ"]BiH - Hrvatska 3:5 (Neredi na tribinama) - YouTube[/ame]

Your words were our motivation, that's why we won 5-3. Last friendly match I believe, another historic moment.

You have here videos how Muslim people behave in Mostar before the match between Croatia and Turkey in Vienna 2008. I want to demonstrate your heritage, culture, democracy and tolerance.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6BNKFyT-nk"]strani mediji prije utakmice Hrvatska - Turska, 20.6.2008. - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUU4CdCGAo4"]Turska-Hrvatska(Mostar) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbX2sYPTPbo"]uo?i me?a Hrvatska-Turska u Mostaru - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRN6_ZF_WRw"]Bljesak.info: Neredi u Mostaru 2.dio - YouTube[/ame]

Muslims in Mostar celebrating Turkish victory and you weren't on that EURO, like always, this is the proof of pure hatred:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OXHI1BajB4"]turska - hrvatska 3-1(pen) - YouTube[/ame]

http://www.juzp.net/483FN7rVrhV7H

http://zadovoljna.hr/clanak/sport/n...-nereda-tijekom-utakmice-hrvatska-turska.html

[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1932043629358141716"]Turska Hrvatska, Croatia, Turkey - supporters from Bosnia video from Mostar[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erE1miCGEZo"]Slavlje nakon utakmice Turska - Hrvatska - Vjecna vatra 3/3 - YouTube[/ame]

Mostar Muslims are saying: "This is Turkey!", "Ovo je Turska!" How come, you are now saying that you are Bosnian. How can Mostar be Turkey? Probably this is your secret opinion like they had said.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4FjGGIgc3E"]Mostarski muslimani poru?uju: "Ovo je Turska" - YouTube[/ame]

Jablanica - city with Muslim majority, near of Mostar city:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTgfRQEY0jg"]Jablanica , slavlje nakon pobjede Turske - YouTube[/ame]

Bosniaks are celebrating Turkish victory:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTrgnMi1Y9w"]Türkei 4:2 Kroatien - BOSNIER feiern Türkeis SIEG (Mostar) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4timrCgpw"]Bljesak.info: Neredi u Mostaru - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggUEPFEW9Fw"]TURSKA HRVATSKA 22.06...SLAVLJE.. NAJBOLJE SLAVLJEEEE - YouTube[/ame]

Muslim fans in Bosnian city Vakuf:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGb4opqdKyM"]Turska-Hrvatska/20.07.2008/Donji Vakuf - YouTube[/ame]

This is pure hatred, because Bosnia had never participated on any World Cups or EUROS. Croatia always won against Bosnia, maybe you have one tie, not sure. I am trying to stick with football themes but you are disturbing me in that. Politics and football are very close connected on Balkan Peninsula. For example I haven't even watched the game Belarus-Bosnia and Herzegovina, I watched Croatian match, I wasn't sad that Bosnia won against Belarus and I didn't support Belarus, just one usual match, after the matches I watched highlights without any radical words or hatred that you demonstrated 2008.

Football hooliganism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism#Croatia

Violence before Bosnian national league match between Croatian club from Mostar Zrinjski and Muslim club Velez:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeYxT2O85r4"]Neredi u Mostaru Zrinjski-Vele? - YouTube[/ame]

East Mostar:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Iz14Y6fC6E"]slavlje pobjede Turske - YouTube[/ame]

Croats will never be Bosnian or Herzegovian. Bosnia and Herzegovina are two regions, Croatian nationality is their nationality, live with that and try to find your own identity. On the thread: "Chat in Croatian" we received some provocations from Muslims. You have your own thread. Nobody of Croats didn't send any provocations, we wrote here only the truth with links, quotes, videos. You said that Youtube is false and that English Wikipedia lies. Under Wikipedia texts you have many proofs in academic sources. Croats are owners of Wikipedia? Or what?

It would be nice that we continue to talk about football in ex-Yugoslavia. Many interesting information I have found. Learn some history and try to resolve your hate toward Croats and Serbs. That's not healthy for a such young person. History of Peninsula is much older than Kingdom of Yugoslavia and Yugoslavia after World War II.

My primary thought in this thread was Yugoslav football. After that came some radical communist people and they tried to decline Croatian nationality. Modern Croatia exists since 7th century and Croatia will always exist, that's our historic right. We are one of the oldest nations in Europe. We existed before 7th century. Many documents prove that, can you stop with historic forgery?

Here is one ACADEMIC source for your non-academic highness:

[ame="http://www.scribd.com/doc/26852285/Dominik-Mandic-Croats-and-Serbs-Two-Old-and-Different-Nations"]Dominik Mandic - Croats and Serbs Two Old and Different Nations[/ame]

"The Croatian name is first mentioned on two commemorative plaques on public edifices in the city of Tanais lying on the mouth of the Don on the Azov Sea. They were written in Greek at the beginning of the III century A.D. The first plaque was written during the reign of the king of Tanais, Sauromates (175-211 A.D.). On it is mentioned the name of the dignitary, the son of one Horvat (Choroathou).(1) On the other, written in 220 A.D. during the reign of king Rescuporides, son of Sauromates, the name Horvat Sandarsijev
(Choroathus Sandarsion) (2) appears among four archons of Tanais. If on both inscriptions the Greek ending "-os" is dropped we have the original Croatian name Horvat in the ancient Kaikavian dialect."

Croats found country San Marino: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marino

"San Marino is the oldest surviving sovereign state and constitutional republic in the world, as the continuation of the monastic community founded on 3 September 301, by stonecutter Marinus of Rab. Legend has it that Marinus left Rab, then the Roman colony of Arba, in 257 when the future emperor, Diocletian, issued a decree calling for the reconstruction of the city walls of Rimini, which had been destroyed by Liburnian pirates."

Now, where is island Rab? In Croatia, still exists that name.

Saint Marinus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Marinus

The name Marin is common name in today's Croatia.

"Saint Marinus was the founder of the world's oldest surviving republic, San Marino, in 301. Tradition holds that he was a stonemason by trade who came from the island of Rab on the other side of the Adriatic Sea (modern Croatia), fleeing persecution for his Christian beliefs in the Diocletianic Persecution. He became a Deacon, and was ordained by Gaudentius, the Bishop of Rimini, until he was accused by an insane woman of being her estranged husband, when he fled to Monte Titano to live as a hermit."

Now, if we found the world's oldest surviving republic, San Marino imagine than how many years Croats live there on Peninsula?

Island Rab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rab

I don't like forgers of history.

I don't blame nations without heritage, but I don't like persons filled with jealousy, hatred, lack of identity and dignity.

Intention of this thread was to say that football in Croatia exists many decades before 1990. After 1990. everyone thought that we were some kind of miracle or surprise. Croatian club Dinamo Zagreb has one of the best football schools in Europe. Others buy expensive players, Croats sell players.

http://www.dinamoacademy.com/2011/07/updated-european-tour-itinerary-and-information/

"In the morning visit the Dinamo Zagreb Youth Academy, one of the best football schools in Europe. Dinamo Zagreb are the most successful club side in Croatia, having won the Championship twelve times, ten Croatian Cups and four Super cups. You will learn the style of play that the club adopts as you immerse yourself in the clubs culture by undertaken a session with their Youth Coaches today. On completion of training you will enjoy some leisure time in this wonderful city."

Dinamo in top 6 best Football Schools!

http://www.dinamoacademy.com/2011/0...ola-u-europi-zajedno-s-barcom-interom-ajaxom/

"European Club Association chose Dinamo among the six top football schools in Europe! In addition to Dinamo on the list are even Barcelona, ​​Arsenal, Inter, Ajax and Sporting Lisbon.
- And the football schools were selected as exemplary representatives at the Old Continent - said Bodo Menze, coordinator of the soccer school Schalke 04, and a member of ECA and dealing with international relations, and he spend the last two days in Zagreb.
Although we knew that Dinamo football school really is extraordinary, and that is the strongest brand Maksimir club, the recognition that came from the European Club Association is indeed a great honor.
We watched a demonstration training of two teams Dinamo the oldest, U-19 and the youngest, U-9. We knew already that NK Dinamo has a great school, but now we are further convinced. Last week we were in a football school, Inter, where he also works great. Dinamo school is in the company of big European clubs, which we are particularly pleased - told us Menze
German experts are especially thrilled with professional work that was [/B]presented in a blue school.
- We have seen young professionals who have a high level of quality, professional work is superb, just as we were all delighted with the quality set of Dinamo's young players we've seen.
This recognition to football school of Dinamo is one of the major awards of the Zagreb club in recent history.
- Of course I am delighted that he has reached such recognition from the European Club Association. Being alongside with such European giants really is a fantastic scope and motivation for better work - said the director of the school Romeo Jozak."

If you don't want to talk about football, fine by me. But I would like to talk about football. Stick the subject or leave, do not insult or write words with hatred, also turn off caps lock, you are yelling on us. Learn some history, history existed before artificial and puppet state Yugoslavia, find your own heritage and do not decline the heritage of your friends in the region.

Today is Euro Basket match in Lithuania between Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina. I wish you luck in that match, let the better team wins.

Have a nice day!

Carmelino