Cristiano Ronaldo all time Portugal top scorer

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by ---Z---, Mar 5, 2014.

  1. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Who is Mad ?
     
  2. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    There are two lasting images of C.Ronaldo in a Portugal kit:
    -- After the final whistle of the Euro 2004 final.
    -- After the penalty shootout in the Euro 2012 semifinal.
    Unless an image of him kissing a trophy is established, those two images will be the defining moments of his international career.
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    This is like being the world's tallest midget.
     
  4. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    Well considering this is Portugal we're talking about, in terms of context and history, those are pretty great achievements.
     
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  5. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    They are, but - rightly or wrongly - they're not what people remember him for in Portugal colors.
     
  6. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    Depends. Someone who dislikes him will say "HA, CR7 what a crybaby, losing to Greece", while others who appreciate him will remember he was a 19 year old kid at the time of Euro 2004, of which he was in the Team of the Tournament, thus could hardly be at fault for Portugal not winning.
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Ronaldo had an okay tournament, but its not like he warrants most of the credit of getting the team to the final. He scored Portugal's 4th most important goal of that tournament...
     
  8. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    "Crybaby" or whatever you wish to call it, it's the lasting image of him from that tournament. Not his celebration after scoring against Holland.
    His reaction after the 2012 semifinal as a 27 year old, where he was in no position to be at fault, doesn't help matters.
     
  9. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Anyway, congrats to C.Ronaldo on being Portugal's all-time leading goal scorer.
     
  10. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    He wasn't the main reason, but that doesn't mean he had an "okay" tournament. You don't make the Team of the Tournament having an "okay" tournament, particularly when you're 19.

    In terms of "4th most important goal", he scored the first goal in a semi-final (a 2-1 win at that) that led Portugal to their first final. I'd say it was pretty important.
     
  11. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I don't think being young is a disadvantage with these kind of things. If anything its an advantage as people are more easily impressed with newcomers, especially "flashy" players. 18 year-old Rooney also got on the Team. And some FIFA WPOTY winners and near-winners were overrated in voting before their time had really come (e.g. Messi in '07).

    And, yes, that goal was important - hence, "4th-most". They were probably going to win that match anyway, which you can't say about 3 other Portugal goals.
     
  12. wangfeng

    wangfeng Member

    Mar 21, 2014
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Cristiano Ronaldo scored the most in Portugal history, he deserves this honor
     
  13. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    The usual suspects both falling again for Z's trolling and showing how bitter they are. :D
     
  14. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    It's a great feat and a defining moment of his tremendous career. It solidifies his status as perhaps the greatest Portuguese player of all-time; however, he must lead Portugal to World Cup glory if he is to elevate his status to that of a Maradona and Pele. Portugal have enough talent to build a successful run around him and I do think that if there ever was a time Portugal could win the World Cup, this edition would be the time. It will be very difficult, but with a little luck anything is possible.
     
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  15. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I appreciate the confidence, but I think that for us to win the World Cup would be as hard as Greece winning the Euro. It's possible (like you have shown!), but very, very unlikely... We need him to be at his very best and hope the others play their part. 2006 was our best shot, I think.
     
  16. Ying Tong

    Ying Tong New Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Well. the chances are close to 0.001%
     
  17. FootballFever

    FootballFever New Member

    Aug 20, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    what about in la liga aswell ? :D though hes second best to messi ;)
     
  18. RedBullSeven

    RedBullSeven Member+

    Apr 28, 2012
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Typical negative portuguse pessimism. This is why Portugal hasn't won anything.
     
  19. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    It's justified pessimism though. While small countries like Netherlands, Denmark and Greece have won the Euro recently, no small country has won a World Cup since 1950 (when you only had to play 4 games to win a WC)!
     
  20. RedBullSeven

    RedBullSeven Member+

    Apr 28, 2012
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    #20 RedBullSeven, Nov 28, 2014
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2014
    If a small country can win the Euro Cup, then they can win the World Cup as well. Pessimism is not justified, especially when small countries like Portugal, and The Netherlands keeps qualifying in tournaments and getting close to the finals. The portuguse overall, should have more confidence in their national team.
     
  21. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Well obviously that remains to be seen since a) in theory the WC is tougher to win, and b) in practice it hasn't happened yet (at least not since the world cup expanded beyond 13 teams).
     
  22. RedBullSeven

    RedBullSeven Member+

    Apr 28, 2012
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Yeah, well being pessimistic won't get you the trophy. A population with a overly pessimistic attitude produces bad players, imo. Portugal has a strong team For a small country. They would be more dangerous if they all believe in themselves. However, that is just my theory.
     
  23. Ahmet

    Ahmet New Member

    Feb 5, 2015
    Club:
    Trabzonspor
    Ronaldo a very good player but I think no the best
     

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