Post-match: Crew v NYRB, Match 31

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  1. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Big big win for the boys.

    Two goals from defenders. Three assists from Pipa. We still can't defend.

    Discuss.
     
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  2. Pauncho

    Pauncho Member+

    Mar 2, 1999
    Bexley, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has there ever before been a Crew match in which both center back scored?
     
  3. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A win is a win, but it was ugly. Terrible passing from everyone. Just terrible.

    We got lucky that we scored not just from one corner (which is shocking enough) but two!?! And mensah did his best to give the game away with a couple of pathetic turnovers in the first half and the obvious penalty in the second.

    Luckily Red Bulls were worse than us and probably still tired/deflated from the open cup loss in midweek.

    I like what I'm seeing from santos. I'm expecting more from him next season.
     
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  4. Crew Chuck35

    Crew Chuck35 Member+

    Apr 13, 2009
    Gahanna, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Terrible passing only in first half. Second half was much better from all.

    Mensah played ok. NY didn't get a shot off following the PK and really had few quality chances all game long.

    Who's more frustrating, Meram or Kamara?
    Im going with Kamara, but its close.
     
  5. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good to finally see the return of the Meathook. As soon as Meram had that ball on his right foot, in that spot, I knew it was going in. Good for him, because he was having another particularly frustrating night before that. Sometimes, watching him dribble is like watching an elephant roller skate.

    Santos was better tonight, I thought. He had the pass to Kamara that should have been an assist for him until Ola butchered it, and got hammered afterward. Honestly, I think that knock stayed with him for the rest of the match after that.

    Ola. My god. I heard on MLS' podcast last week that he leads the league with 15 "big chances missed", whatever the hell that means; sounds very subjective to me. No one else had more than 10. Make it 16, I suppose. Now, hard to say what they mean with that stat -- could be keeper saves, flubbed shots, posts, anything. And some "chances missed" will be easier than others. But let's be conservative here. Suppose only a third of them were howlers -- six, we'll say. And suppose that of those six, two were in garbage time, two would have changed losses to draws, and two would have changed draws to wins. Six more points. How much different would things be right now with six more points?

    I like Ola, but these highlight reel shitshows are becoming way too common.
     
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  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will take that win all day. Still, two soft goals. Mensah with his typical one bonehead play per game. Abu & Jimenez with a TO for the other.

    Still, Pink Cow didn't really have a dangerous chance outside those two plays. We had more. More frustrating:

    1) Soft goals from TOs
    2) Conceding shortly after scoring
    3) Mensah's blunders
    4) Kamara's misses
    5) Meram's dribbling
    6) Giving away points late

    We are trying to get rid of #1 by playing more longball. Still, we make a lot of dumb passes for a 'possession' team. One of those. Two instances of we score/they score last night. Mensah struck again (was good otherwise aside from that bad pass, 1 goal & 1 bar). Kamara with an awful miss. Meathook Meram redeemed the poor dribbling. Gonna have to live with that from those guys.

    At least we saw the game out well. No real chances after the PK. Artur still off a bit. Lets get Francis back.
     
  7. porchlight

    porchlight Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Crawlumbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Pedro takes a beating...not at all worth 2 million...Mensah 2 goals..Pedro 0...
     
  8. Coupe

    Coupe Member+

    Mar 3, 2007
    I'm not sure that Pedro is that much of an upgrade from Finlay (who is doing very well in Minnesota). I'd love to see us upgrade our forward. Too many missed opportunities. Merman Plays well for a few minutes every game- maybe thats enough.
     
  9. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    I'm not down on Ola. Sure, he misses some good chances, but he also comes up with some goals that are impressive. If he were a more lethal finisher, he wouldn't be in MLS.

    That PK was ridiculous. How is a PK awarded for a foul out of bounds? Mensah grabbed Felipe to keep him from going back inbounds near the goal. I wouldn't have objected to a yellow card but extending the penalty box across the goal line is just making stuff up.
     
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  10. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    I think there is some "science" to it, a lot of teams play the way they do to create these type of chances. I guess playing the percentages.
     
  11. ibrew

    ibrew Member+

    Feb 3, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    That is what i want to know. Maybe b/c the slide started in the box? Should have been a drop ball.
    Frankly, i think the rule should be changed so that the penalty box is deemed to extend infinitely backwards as that foul seems like it should be a pk.
     
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  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I asked about this on the referee forums. Apparently there's been a recent rule change that allows contact off the field to be punished with a free kick or penalty kick as needed.

    This is from Law 12 -- Fouls and Misconduct

    4 - Restart of play after fouls and misconduct
    ...
    " If, when the ball is in play:



      • a player commits an offence against a match official or an opposing player, substitute, substituted or sent off player, or team official outside the field of play or 
      • a substitute, substituted or sent off player, or team official commits an offence against, or interferes with, an opposing player or match official outside the field of play
    play is restarted with a free kick on the boundary line nearest to where the offense/interference occurred; a penalty kick is awarded if this is a direct free kick offense within the offender's penalty area."

    This is new. Before this was pointed out to me, I looked up the 2016-17 version of the LAWS, and it said this was a dropped ball on the endline.
     
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  13. redi44crew

    redi44crew Member+

    Mar 27, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Yeah, because playing beautiful soccer and losing is so much better.
     
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  14. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Probably not for the same team.
     
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  15. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did i say i was unhappy we won? No.

    Was it a beautiful game full of amazing passing and stunning tactics? No.

    We fought harder and played better. Nothing wrong with that, frustrating as hell to watch though. Seem fair enough?
     
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  16. crew2112

    crew2112 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Dayton, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    As much as fouls should be reviewed, dives have to be factored in. Yes, mensah grabbed him out of bounds, but I thought Veron made a meal out of it. He fell way harder than mensah could have pulled him.
    I’m not a fan of VAR as it currently is implemented.
    Good game for Crew SC otherwise. We need some wins like that. Not super pretty but we’ll take it.
     
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  17. redi44crew

    redi44crew Member+

    Mar 27, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Understand and agree that wasn't pretty. May I suggest "it was ugly, but a win is a win". This shows that it's a fact that the play sucked and you're happy that we got the points. When you say "a win is a win, but it was ugly", that sounds like you'd be happier playing better regardless of the outcome.

    If I'm over analyzing, forgive me. Helping my son with adverbs and proper nouns is going to my head.
     
  18. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My son has not gone to a loss this season. He has attended around 7 or 8 (maybe 9) games this year, and he always comes back with his recounts of the game. I am not sure if I have ever been that lucky.
     
  19. Tycon5

    Tycon5 Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm... We would be happy to pick him up and return him for whatever home games might remain. Not that I am superstitious or anything.
     
  20. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    You can't be serious Pedro is a well rounded smart player who can do it all. Ethan was a one trick pony . That's a upgrade and Santos will really blossom next season once he gets to know the system and his teammates better
     
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  21. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Disagree it was a stupid and unnecessary desperate gimmick foul and he would have got away with it , if it wasn't for those kids and that pesky dog
     
  22. Coupe

    Coupe Member+

    Mar 3, 2007
    Except that Finlay is having a great season with his new teammates in a new system.
     
  23. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's no way that's a dive. Mensah was sliding, and his arms and his body took Veron's leg out from under him. It's an obvious penalty. Frankly, I have no idea why it took VAR to get that one called in the first place.

    Also, it didn't show on TV, but Higuaín ran clear to the other side of the halfway line while the ref was looking at the monitor to yap at him, and got booked for it. I can't stand this kind of mindless, petulant taking of yellow cards. It serves absolutely no purpose, and it sets yourself up to potentially get kicked out of the game if you get a second one for time-wasting while you're trying to kill the game.
     
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  24. coachchris

    coachchris Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    Galloway, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When he didn't call the penalty immediately, I figured there was some other infraction that had negated the foul. Who knew the ref just wasn't (apparently) looking at the play?
     
  25. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We live in Northeast Ohio. My dad brings him to the games. Grandpas have that type of time.
     

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