Post-match: Crew v NYCFC, Matchday 9

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  1. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3-2 loss, courtesy of a major miscue in the back.

    Not a good way to start the homestand.
     
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  2. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, nice to see choosing to go to Wheeling to pick up an inflatable pontoon for fishing was the right call again.

    Man, I might just not watch any more Crew games.

    Oh - Ben Sweat, 1 assist apparently. Nice to see Crew Rejects contributing against us...
     
  3. Meltdown611186

    Aug 4, 2005
    Columbus Ohio
    Against a B NYC team at home.

    Not all impressed with our DB Mensah.
    As a pro, how are you playing the ball back in the middle of defense??

    Needs to be better.
     
  4. MFRONE

    MFRONE Member+

    Jul 24, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    This team ********ing sucks. The only reason they got to the top of the table was by playing way more games then any other team.

    It's year 3 and the defensive mastermind still has a terrible back line. Mennsah is flying up the list as worst DP in league history.

    Yet another bad game from Trapp. He wouldn't make any other 18 in the league, but he's from Columbus so he gets a huge extension and is gifted a starting spot every night
     
  5. Meltdown611186

    Aug 4, 2005
    Columbus Ohio
    People continue to ask why fans to show up to home games. Its hard to justify the price vs the entertainment value.

    I dont mind losing, you cant wint them all usually. This just isnt an exciting team to watch OR have any players exciting to watch.

    I could go to a local high school and get similar value especially with some of the passing errors I see.
     
  6. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why does everyone think so highly of Harrison Afful? He sucks. He doesn't suck like Abu in that he is probably an MLS quality player, but I can't think of a more overrated player in our club's history.
     
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  7. Meltdown611186

    Aug 4, 2005
    Columbus Ohio
    That one DP, Mendoza I believe. He was right up there with over rated. Though Mensah is giving him a run for worst DP.
     
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  8. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MANY people felt like you did about Mendoza. Many many people.

    I think I'm the only Harrison Afful truther.
     
  9. Meltdown611186

    Aug 4, 2005
    Columbus Ohio
    Cant say I completly disagree but I know few people liked Mendoza because his goal tally (PKs..)

    Afful was less of a liability when we played the 3 man back against DC.

    He fits GGG system cause he has the ability to run up and down. Though I would prefer a change in system over having a player that thinks its ever a good idea to play a ball back to your central defense during a high press situation.
     
  10. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you miss the entire first half?
     
  11. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Afful pass cost us a disappointing draw or chance to win. Worst pass I ever saw a RB make it's a cardinal sin to make that pass. We have no other decent option at RB. He should be held accountable it was a horrible decision

    Abu was better but stull below average performance.

    Mensah still not DP quality
     
  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't really have a comment on Mensah one way or the other in this match. Not impressed, but he wasn't exactly terrible either.

    I don't know why anyone would be focusing on him when Raitala basically gave away two goals, and Afful handed the ball away carelessly for the third.

    Jukka Raitala turned the ball over at midfield and then was ballwatching as his runner went right past him to score the first goal. Then, he was close enough to get run over and have his head split open by the goal-scorer on goal #2; he just wasn't close enough to defend anything. And that cross to the middle of his own end of the field by Awful was just plain afful. Awful. Afful -- you get the point. Naess didn't do him any favors by hesitating to jump on that ball, but you can't make that pass to begin with.
     
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  13. porchlight

    porchlight Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Crawlumbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    How about NY has better quality..I will go with that
     
  14. Meltdown611186

    Aug 4, 2005
    Columbus Ohio
    Which they didnt have their major players and 3 people getting their first ever MLS starts. Inexcusable to lose on home turf in the manner that we did.
     
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  15. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see you've been waiting 5 months to make your triumphant return and live up to your username. I think pretty much everything else you posted last night was crap (no offense haha) but this post is 100% correct. NYCFC was without Villa, Pirlo, and Matarrita. Pirlo being out maybe isn't that big a deal, but Villa and Matarrita are. Okoli did nothing. Sweat was actually decent, fair enough.

    They still had some very good players on the field though: Harrison, Wallace, Moralez, Ring, Callens, Chanot. There is a reason they are one of the very best road teams in the league, and they showed it again last night. That being said, you'd expect a draw at bare minimum. A loss is unacceptable.
     
  16. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    The nature of the loss was unacceptable. Individual errors punished and cost us the three points.
     
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  17. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was at the game and just watched the condensed match this morning.

    Before I park the Abu Hate Train in the garage this week, because Abu stepped his game up and was semi-competent this week, I need to make one quick pit stop first. That first goal, the entire time 5'2'' Moralez had the ball, Abu was 2 yards behind him. Instead of, at any point, hustling and sprinting for about 2 or 3 seconds to catch him and knock him off the ball, he decided to just jog and watch instead. Pathetic. Two guys from MLS Extratime Radio even publicly shamed him for his lack of effort on Twitter.





    That being said, Raitala deserves twice as much blame. His original giveaway was poor, then he fails to defend the single guy on his entire side of the field that could possible receive the ball, and he just happened to be leading the line and making a backpost run. Sure, Raitala then made up for it with two nice crosses, one resulting in Pipa's goal, but then he got beat for the second goal. It might be time to dust Francis off and let him have another game.

    Mensah was, ok. Let me be clear, he is NOT a DP. You can't really blame him for any of the goals though. I did however find it odd that between goals 2 and 3 he somehow let 5'2'' Maxi Moralez win a header on the penalty spot. For a guy making, what, $800,000 a year, this is unacceptable. Sauro would never allow that to happen (though sadly he has the knees of a 90 year old). I'd rather start Crognale over him, or play three at the back.

    Afful has been awful this year. Not sure what happened to him.

    Finlay continues to not really impress me. Great work on the second goal, but did literally nothing the rest of the game.

    Our savior Manneh came on late and.... well, I'm not gonna shit on him since GB only gave him 10 minutes (WTF) but that being said, he didn't make great use of that time.

    GB... waiting so late again to make subs. Again showing he can't make in-game tactical changes. At this point, I think the debate is 100% over about his ability to influence the game once the first half kickoff happens.
     
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  18. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    Mensah and Abu integral to pipa goal.
     
  19. A Guy

    A Guy Member

    Feb 13, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I've come around this season. I used to like him a fair bit. And I have always said that he's the reason Ethan went to crap. Before him, we didn't have a player (besides Grana briefly) who could/would get forward as GGG wants. When Grana did, he liked to cut inside. That gave Ethan the sideline or occasionally diagonal lane towards the goal. Now he is forced into a usually straight lane across the field or straight between the 6 and 18. He sucks there because he isn't skilled on the ball.

    Afful was never a good crosser, but he was less of a liability on defense and he would. Are clever passes or dribble out of tough situations. But he hasn't improved a lick offensively, and is getting worse in other aspects (or the league is improving, maybe both).
     
  20. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm hoping you were having a giant laugh as you typed this.
     
  21. redi44crew

    redi44crew Member+

    Mar 27, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Yes, however I could argue that missing Crognale, Artur, and even Sauro has hurt our play in the last two games. In no way should we be starting Abu...
     
  22. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love Sauro, but you can't include him as an excuse. We've literally brought in Naess, Crognale, Mensah, Williams, and Abubakar all to replace him and fill our the center of defense.
     
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  23. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    How was the beer fest?
     
  24. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    It's sad that Ben Sweat gets his first career MLS start, is carded in minute 2 and still has a better game than our experienced international LB. I hope Crognale is available next week. We probably should try Naess in place of Abu for a game.

    Why did Gregg wait so long for subs? And sending Raitala back into the game instead of subbing in a fresh Francis is mystifying.
     
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  25. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sweat and Johnson miscue is how Finlay assisted Ola . I didn't think Sweat was very good except the one nice cross that we should have defended better
     

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