Crew to Austin in 2019..(Maybe)

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  1. Groundd

    Groundd Member

    Sep 16, 2011
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    Last night he said the case would end soon.
     
  2. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
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    I think Precourt said "We'll address that soon." I don't think the message was that the lawsuit was going away soon.

    The lawsuit is a very interesting point now. Presumably Chase would refuse to make the loan to PSV unless the lawsuit was concluded, UNLESS MLS as a whole signs off as a guarantor. MLS is worth enough money that you'd think Chase could still be confident in getting their money back even if the Ohio lawsuit somehow tanks the move. But, PSV itself seems incapable of surviving that. (This reminds me of parents signing onto a young adult kid's first car loan.)

    So, does groundbreaking occur prior to a resolution of the lawsuit? Or, does Chase require a conclusion of the course case before signing off on the move? If the latter, it will provide important motivation (beyond court costs and discovery) for PSV not leave in the middle of the night.
     
  3. C-Bus20

    C-Bus20 Member

    Mar 1, 2009
    Everywhere
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Precums comments in the statesman today talk about relocating a club and not just MLS in Austin. Seems as though the thought of them removing works like “relocate” and “crew” in the event he is granted expansion had nothing to it.
     
  4. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Letting your bank know you are shopping and will make a change is certainly not an idle threat, especially if you have any other accounts, like checking, credit cards, with them. You also have notes put into your file and if they think you are looking they may offer better benefits/rates on the other products you can move.

    Overreaction? Yes.
     
  5. jack sticker

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  6. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

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    #24706 jack sticker, Aug 16, 2018
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    [MOD EDIT: Out of line]
     
  7. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    I just rewatched the clip. He just says "We'll address that all in the very near future." This is clearly how he was coached to respond to and deflect any Crew-related questions by his PR professionals.



    I believe this second tweet stating that the lawsuit will END is actually a misquote from the clip linked above:



    ADDRESS and "end the lawsuit" are two very different things.

    Now I need a shower.
     
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  8. ibrew

    ibrew Member+

    Feb 3, 2008
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    This is Precourt. It was not done humanely.
     
  9. Alneri

    Alneri Member

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    Aug 3, 2018
    Suttle made that comment in the City Council session last Thursday. Deadline 14, iirc.
     
  10. jack sticker

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  11. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Dec 28, 2014
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    #24711 TKyle, Aug 16, 2018
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    I wouldn't go there.
    Take the high road. We're better than that.
    Plus, it can give ammo to the other side.

    Edit: I am less inclined to decry trolling Queso McQuesoface's page.
     
  12. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
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    Lenovo is pretty good. Toshiba had a disastrous period. I think most of it depends on your IT department, and not on the HW. Plus, Windows makes everything randomly unstable.
     
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  13. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

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    Do I strike you as a guy that takes the high road?

     
  14. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
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    Dec 28, 2014
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    FWIW, I have a HP laptop which gets daily use that has worked pretty flawlessly for 6 years now.
    (Hopefully I haven't just jinxed it...)
     
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  15. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

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    #24715 catfish9, Aug 16, 2018
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    His poor kids. The legacy he is leaving them and the stigma they will have to live with the rest of their lives. It's well documented for all of history.
     
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  16. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
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    Exactly, because to refinance your mortgage the old loan has to be paid off in full by the new one, so Chase gets all it's money back plus all the interest you've already paid them. There is no leverage here.
     
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  17. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

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    #24717 kgilbert78, Aug 16, 2018
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    That is inappropriate.
     
  18. JB-CBUS221

    JB-CBUS221 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
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    Jul 19, 2018
    Columbus, Ohio
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Precourt's comments on relocation and getting things addressed soon I don't put much stock in. He hardly ever speaks and when he does 90% of it is gibberish or what his PR team told him to say.

    What I think is interesting is that all the legal documents talk about an MLS Club, not the crew and Suttle indicated that with the ACC deal that the lawsuit would be resolved shortly. While Precourt might just be a spoiled manchild, Suttle is a master sleazeball manipulator who has built a career crafting these sort of deals. Could he have been lying? Sure. But I would actually put money on the idea that they think they have some theoretical solution.

    The logic for that goes beyond Suttle's words and the wording in the ACC Contract to the deal with Chase. MLS could have signed on as a 100% guarantor for the Austin loan but that would require the BoG and the MLS assuming sharing all of the risk for PSV. That seems like a dangerous path, especially with the lawsuit still in play and a new MLS team in Ohio. What could have happened though is that PSV and MLS went to Chase and demonstrated something fairly concrete which would lead Chase to believe the lawsuit wouldn't be an issue and the risk was low. This might be an unofficial settlement offer or a potential terms sheet for an expansion team, or evidence of talks in Columbus. Even if the deal isnt final yet if Chase believed there was a high enough degree of certainty they might have signed off.

    I saw this before where one private equity firm bought out a major portion of a REIT, which had previously performed poorly, from another while the manager that ran the REIT was restructuring the holdings. The prior owner and manager showed the new buyer they had enough deals lined up with the assets they were in the process of restructuring and new deal they were bringing onboard that the buyer felt certain that the previously assumed risk was mitigated so they went ahead with the acquisition. That deal got underwritten by a former Goldman team but still.
     
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  19. JB-CBUS221

    JB-CBUS221 Member+

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    #24719 JB-CBUS221, Aug 16, 2018
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    Dude that is too far. You need to see if you can delete that message. Precourt is absolutely a scumbag but you can't just harass people.
     
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  20. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

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    I hate my HP.
     
  21. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
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    Besides, his wife is already suffering daily for her choices. The queso breath alone!
     
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  22. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Dec 28, 2014
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    United States
    I.m not calling you out specifically with this. But telling someone who is particularly emotional or sensitive about this whole thing to buck up, grow a pair, quit whining, etc is not going to boost their morale or "rally them." Reminders of what we have going in our favor will (or should help).
    Yes!
    This is not over. Tell everyone you know.
    WE'RE--NOT--DONE--YET!!
    Also, points for the Peter Gabriel reference.
     
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  23. hudson hooligan

    hudson hooligan Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 6, 2008
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Addressing/ending the lawsuit "soon" could mean anything.


    Could mean Precourt/MLS are willing to settle, i.e., expansion with local ownership.
     
  24. TyphonInc

    TyphonInc Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jul 3, 2018
    Dublin, OH
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But they don't get more interest...
     
  25. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
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    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Touche, but your actions reflect on us all.
    I suggest deleting your question of Mrs. Queso and direct your anger on Mr. Queso's page.
     
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