Crew to Austin in 2019..(Maybe)

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  1. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not true. The City of Columbus may be growing faster than the City of Austin, but the Austin metro area is growing much faster than is the Columbus metro area.
     
  2. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Just saw a banner ad that is promoting our next "home game" as being the 29th, so that is cool.
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  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why the hell does this always crack me up?
     
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  4. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another thing of note:

    Friday at 3pm, Common and T-Bone will be broadcasting live from the Short North Homage location.

    If you're in the area, go there and thank them for their support of #SaveTheCrew.
     
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  6. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the biggest question:

    Why isn't the "north root" pointing up?
     
  7. JB-CBUS221

    JB-CBUS221 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jul 19, 2018
    Columbus, Ohio
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you have anything to show that? I haven't seen anything like that since 2016 or 2017. Everything I have seen from a metro perspective has them pegged at basically the same population at the end of 2017 and basically the same quarterly metro growth numbers for 2018. Austin was growing quicker from 2010-2017 but then their population growth stalled.

    Also if MLS is looking for urban core teams/stadiums, doesn't the City of Columbus growing faster than the City of Austin make that point?

    Again these are the city not metro numbers but you can see the shift in the growth rates here:

    Austin
    http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/austin-population/

    Columbus
    http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/columbus-population/

    Also, our forecasted Gross Metropolitan Product is higher in 2018.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/183808/gmp-of-the-20-biggest-metro-areas/

    Again why the hedging? I am not saying Austin hasn't grown rapidly or that it isn't growing. Just that Columbus is growing rapidly as well, especially in the city which is where MLS is trying to target people.
     
  8. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Tell NYC I said hello back.
     
  9. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYC told me to "fook off"
     
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  10. shoplifter

    shoplifter Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone notice that their charge for tickets went to Crew Soccer Stadium? I admit I haven't paid attention to this in the past, but I find it interesting that the money flows to the stadium *first*. How much/when does it go to Team Columbus LLC or the team itself?
     
  11. DAK77

    DAK77 Member+

    Nov 10, 2008
    Merion Village, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if you go on a helicopter tour let us know so we can track it.
     
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  12. Pauncho

    Pauncho Member+

    Mar 2, 1999
    Bexley, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is also the payee I was told to write when I took my checkbook to the stadium ticket office last week.
     
  13. JB-CBUS221

    JB-CBUS221 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jul 19, 2018
    Columbus, Ohio
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is it is just the shell entity they use for tickets and payments. Like Stadium Co. in Austin which is the PSV entity listed as the developer of the stadium on the Terms Sheet.
     
  14. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because Bailey is endearing and hilarious. Timeless, really.
     
  15. shoplifter

    shoplifter Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could be, but how/when does the money go to the team? How much does the *stadium* take out? How are the profits calculated for the team itself?

    edit: not everything is a conspiracy, but I'm interested in the how/what/when/how much because most of us suspect that the stadium is enormously profitable at the expense of the team itself
     
  16. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    well, I do declare! How rude.
     
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  17. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    This is why Precourt has invested so much money into Columbus Crew and has lost so much money. He had to pay stadium co (that he also owns) so much money for rent and use of the stadium, and, therefore, lost millions on operating the Columbus Crew.

    Stadium Co charges the crew whatever they want for using the stadium. It's like Garber Bucks, er "Precourt Bucks". He has a spreadsheet somewhere keeping track of it, but it isn't really all that real.
     
  18. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with the bottom line argument that if MLS wants to be the country's fastest growing big cities; if they want to be in cities with the strongest growth among millennials; and if they want to be well represented in the Midwest, then it would be monumentally stupid to abandon the Columbus market. Columbus is a poster child example of the kind of city MLS would want to be in.

    Now about those stats...

    It can be very hard to decipher reporting on population growth. But what I'm looking at are the fastest growing large metro area/MSA populations in the country. The Census Bureau puts out periodic snapshots of all sorts of things, such as the fastest growing MSAs (I saw that listed this spring), but not necessarily "large" MSAs (so you might get Madison, WI, but that's not considered a large metro area). Then, of course, you get articles about the fastest growing "cities" - like we've been talking about - which may refer to cities proper, of metro areas, depending.

    Anyway, this is the kind of data I'm referring to (from March '18):

    https://www.bizjournals.com/columbu...ing-columbus-region-moves-past-cleveland.html

    If you get past the paywall, it quotes Census data tracking population growth in metro regions of greater than 1 million, from 2010-2017. As it states:

    It notes that:

    When you click on the slideshow of a ranking of the fastest growing metro regions of 1 million +, number one is:

    Austin-Round Rock, TX
    2010 population: 1,716,320
    2017 population: 2,115,827
    2010-2017 change: 23.28%
    Change rank: 1 (of 53)

    Next comes:
    Raleigh (just the Raleigh MSA, by the way, not the Raleigh-Durham CSA)
    Orlando
    Houston
    San Antonio
    Dallas
    Charlotte
    Nashville
    Denver
    Phoenix
    Las Vegas
    Seattle
    Jacksonville
    Atlanta
    Tampa
    Miami
    Salt Lake City
    Oklahoma City
    Washington, DC
    Portland

    And clocking in at #21 during this time frame: Columbus, OH, with its 9.29% growth rate. Ahead of San Francisco, San Jose, Riverside/San Bernadino/Ontario, Sacramento, San Diego, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Richmond, etc., etc., etc.. So not bad at all. And, as I've said, I saw stats from last year that showed that Columbus was the 13th fastest growing metro area in the country more recently. Still, Columbus metro hasn't experienced anything like the growth rate that Austin has.
     
  19. ohiotiger

    ohiotiger Member

    Oct 23, 2017
    Important distinction: it's a blog. You don't need any journalistic training to write a blog.
     
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  20. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My sweetheart of a ticket rep emailed me to let me know I was charged for my 2019 season tickets.
     
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  21. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get the Austin growth but everything I read and am told is that Austin's growth is peaking.

    I think I mentioned that my company was looking for office space in Austin. Space was about 2x the price it was for San Antonio and lower grade. Our retail realtor said Austin is running out of space to build in given their present infrastructure. His take is that Austin needs an official outer loop or a mass transit system upgrade. For the outer loop the 130/45/360 goes around sort of and is two lanes in most places. Traffic is slow. The joke was it is easier to get to Houston (2 hrs away) then across town.

    In addition most affordable housing is in Pflugeville, Round Rock and even Georgetown. I can't remember if it was flooding or something else but building in other areas for affordable single family homes is light. They started building more higher rise condo type building but in areas that already have traffic problems so the problem is rise and repeat.

    I think the whole CodeNEXT that the Austin mayor was pushing was supposed to help with all this but it looks like from comments, it is not. Not sure if it needs more time or money but I see Adler getting beat up by it a lot. I think that is part of why he wants to cement his legacy with a soccer team.
     
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  22. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On a complete side note, I keep hearing that PSV picked the Green of the Mexican team in the thought that it will draw usual LigaMX fans to Austin and the MLS. Chivas 2.0.
     
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  23. JB-CBUS221

    JB-CBUS221 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jul 19, 2018
    Columbus, Ohio
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again totally agree with everything your saying and its all totally accurate. The latest update from the USCB I saw from Q2 had Metro Columbus maintaining basically the same growth rate of 9-10% while Austin Metro's growth slipped to 7-8%.

    In terms of comparative growth; From 2010-2017 Austin Metro grew 23%, which is just insane as a growth rate. However, they are now slowing down in terms of growth (which makes sense after a solid decade of it), they aren't shrinking but its not accelerating at 20% either. Conversely, Columbus didn't grow as fast from 2010-2017 but in 2018 is growing much more rapidly. Basically, they are both are experiencing booms, Austin's just began in the 2000s and is tapering off while Columbus's really began over the last couple years and is just now gearing up. At least thats my two cents. Again though I agree with everything your saying from a historical perspective.
     
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  24. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    In your infinite notice plan, the owners of the Bengals, Indians, BlueJackets or whomever would have to give public notice that their team was for sale. That's not likely unless the owner really wants to move or sell the team.
     
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  25. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Side note, today is September 18.

    MLS released the 2018 entire season schedule on January 4, 2018, and the home openers for each club on December 19, 2017.

    We are 108 days away from the full schedule release (if it gets released the same time as last year) and we are 92 days away from when MLS released the home openers for all teams.

    Still no word on next season, and we are getting charged for tickets. Madness.
     
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