Crew Academy Players

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew SC' started by Smithsoccer1721, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But we're missing the broader point here, which is...

    Magic Celestin is still around?!? I'm pretty sure I remember going to his camps over 30 years ago.
     
  2. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True. What I meant was should they sign HG deal in lieu of college..A la Swanson. Then Crew has MLS rights.
     
  3. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't his son Khai a stud for a year or two with Crew Academy. I seem to recall a lot of chatter about him on this board a few yrs ago. Maybe even played with first team in a friendly or reserve game if I recall correctly.

    Wonder what his story is?
     
  4. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good friend of mine has a kid that is going to a top D1 college, had a stellar HS career and never considered the Academy. He was approached, but the reality of what the Academy requires basically takes the kid away from his friends and family, sometimes at a moments notice. I know of other promising young players that have opted to stay at their local club, OP, Classics, instead of getting on a bus and playing games hundreds of miles away every weekend. At least with the local clubs that play National League they get to travel with their parents. Sometimes the kids just want to be kids.
     
  5. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is further making my point.

    Crew just raided (with clubs' cooperation) U12,13,14,15s from several clubs (I know Classics for sure) this past year. Will be interesting how many stay long term. They have basically abandoned development at younger ages and are now looking at other clubs to initiate/foster development and then snatch them up once they get to USDA academy ages. They've dropped open tryouts and it's by invitation only.
     
  6. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
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    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Youth development is an ecosystem. Everyone plays a role. The other clubs know they can't compete at certain levels with the scope of the Academy so they find their role.

    Different paths for different people.
     
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  7. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't say it was necessarily a bad thing.

    But the one bad thing is the assumption by many that only the best players in country are on USDA teams. Every YNT announcement counts how many are USDA kids.
     
  8. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Of course the USSF is going to broadcast that. I don't think anyone truly believes all the best kids are in the DA. Plenty of kids across the country not near a DA or choosing not to participate that can go on to be high level players. There are real advantages to playing in the DA of an MLS team.
     
  9. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
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  10. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope he is not going to Austin.
     
  11. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His Twitters profile says he's the Head Academy Coach. They have one of those.

    I have zero knowledge into the situation, but his profile also mentions Valencia which makes me lean in the direction that perhaps he's going back to Spain.
     
  12. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pardon me. Offhand joke in probably poor taste. Hello Friday.
     
  13. Dr.Fever

    Dr.Fever Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 19, 2018
    I cannot blame the Austin reaction. It flashed in my mind quickly as well. For his sake, however, not my feelings. Well, maybe a little of my feelings, but more for his sake. Well, maybe he extorts them for a huge salary.

    He could be moving up the ladder. No one's to say he doesn't go there for some promotion. That club has shown a propensity to attempt to replicate with that which they already know. Josh, Wahl, FO staff, Two-Buttons, etc.

    But anyways, I am sure in the near future his profiles will have updated.

    Best of luck Sergio. Thank you for the time and effort.
     
  14. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
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    Next up...
     
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  15. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No need for apologies.
     
  17. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The academy has not produce a single note worthy player for several seasons.People closer I am sure have some thoughts as to why but frankly its an embarrassment. Perhaps that might be changing as we have to U16 players called in to the upcoming Nike Friendlies.

    Defender - Noah Hall - I dont know much about him

    Forward - Samuel Sarver - Reading what others have said he seems to be an talented dribbler and wide attacker.
     
  18. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s almost like the academy took a downturn when Gregggggg came in an axed/relocated pretty much the entire academy technical team.
     
  19. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He brought in some pretty decent coaches (on paper) so it seemed like that would produce something positive. For the amount of money invested its pretty pathetic the results
     
  20. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Per a poster in the US YNT Forum

    Sam Sarver: Blazing winger. Might be the fastest player in the DA. He can be used as as a striker, but he’s not a striker because he doesn’t have the size or hold up game for the position. Very efficient in final third. He’s not creative or flashy, but he makes smart plays in goal scoring positions. He knows where his runners are going to run to, he knows when defenders are going to dive in, and he makes quick decisions. Top 10 player in this very talented age group, IMO.

    Noah Hall: Understated RB. Does a lot well on both sides of the ball. Incredibly smart defensive player who has above average athleticism. He’s very good defensively. He’s capable of shutting down good wingers. Going forward, he’s not a big skill guy, but he’s better than you’d initially think. Since he’s a very smart player, he has success with deception, athleticism and average passing and ball control.

    This is exactly the kind of player I think the system fails right now. He’s probably a little too far off Columbus HG signing list (considering they haven’t even signed Chifamba or Sarver yet), not quite good enough to generate significant European interest, and college soccer will hurt his development playing multiple years. He’s probably a 20th-40th caliber player in the country. Good player, but I’d worry he falls by the wayside.
     
  21. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wolff is originally from Georgia and his extended family all still lives there. No reason for them to stay in Columbus once hes no longer employed there.

    What's interesting is that his immediate family hasn't relocated to his new professional location, Austin Texas. They have an academy now supposedly, although I think it's only U14, plus a highly touted partnership arrangement with DA Academy Lonestar SC in Austin.

    So there certainly are trading and playing opportunities in the land of coders and neckbeards and it's odd the Wolff family has chosen not to avail themselves of same.

    As for Seb Berhalter, both of his parents went to UNC. Furthermore, he played for Crew SC for four years, giving the Crew some claim on him.

    TDS had him as a four star so he has some game but one wonders why his father didnt find him something overseas.
     
  23. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would you want your son's soccer future tied to the abilities Tyson Wahl?
     
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  24. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd force him to take up ballet first
     
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  25. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe if playing doesn't pan out, his uncle can get him a high-level job at US soccer, once he gets that degree :ROFLMAO:. But in all seriousness, you aint a slouch if you're on a Tar Heal scholarship but neither does that necessarily mean you're MLS talent. But if that time comes, I'd hope the Crew would have some claim.

    Wolff to ATL makes sense given his history - I think it would be a shame if his kid turns out to be as good as I had heard and the Crew loses out.
     
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