Corruption in La Liga

Discussion in 'Spain' started by Bada Bing, Jan 11, 2015.

  1. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Apparently Lahoz wrote in ref report two yellows from dissent, and didn't specify what the dissent was, because he couldn't write what Alba said, which was noway even yellow worthy. Yet Lahoz actually showed yellow, and then straight red card for Alba.
     
  2. CR7PT

    CR7PT Member+

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Mar 26, 2014
    Portugal
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Funny thing here is how you're so ready to assume the worst from Ronaldo (that he asked the ref if he likes balls) and at the same time assume the best from Jordi Alba (that he merely asked politely how the ref's family doing). I know you are culé but give it a break, Alba ain't no saint.
     
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  3. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Continued:

    Round 32 Valencia - Barcelona (at 0-0) Valencia gets penalty from leg pushing from the back against Barcelona.
    http://i.imgur.com/dqQqWHO.gif

    Round 33 Celta Vigo - Barcelona (at 2-3) Celta Vigo doesn't get penalty from similar push from the back against Real Madrid.
    http://i.imgur.com/9NIZleS.gif

    In addition to these Real Madrid got 1 penalty and Barcelona 1 ridiculous red in the last 2 rounds.

    This is getting out of hand now, they actually want to be exposed?
     
  4. The Germans are coming

    Aug 13, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    Forget the games.

    • I would like to read the financial transcripts and documents releating to the deal made between the Spanish FA and beIN Sports.
    • I would also like to know more about Angel Maria Villars conections to Sepp Blatter and Qatar. Aswell as his agreement with the Qataris during the 2018/2022 world cup bids.
    • I would like to see documents releating to the financial transactions made by Angel Maria Villa during his time as the head of the Spanish FA.
    • I would also like to know if there has been political colousion between Barca and the Qatari government, since it has been suggested that in exchange for sponsorship Qatar would support Catalan independence.
     
  5. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Diego Simeone, when asked how he saw the 2015-16 title race, the Argentine told AS: "Dangerously complicated for any team other than Real Madrid because it can't happen that Real Madrid wins only one league after seven years. So, I see the Liga title race dangerously prepared for Real Madrid, sadly."

    Smart man, I'll be covering this from Jornada 1 this time.
     
  6. Sian

    Sian Member

    Dec 4, 2011
  7. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #32 Bada Bing, Oct 21, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2015
    Vicente (lawyer linesman): "My client was told that he shouldn't worry about influencing game, that this had already happened before." [rac1]

    Vicente (lawyer linesman): "My client said he was told he'd get a lower ranking if he didn't agree to favour Madrid in clasico." [rac1]

    Vicente (lawyer linesman): "Other linesmen were also pressurized. Let's see if they also denounce it. Two or three could in coming days."

    Vicente (lawyer linesman): "He wanted the story out there already. He was heavily pressurized and he decided to act now." [md]

    note: linesman asked lawyer not to be named in complaint, but second linesman in the case is working with referee gonzalez gonzalez

    note - document: complaint regarding pressure on linesman to favour madrid ahead of clasico at bernabeu in november http://www.cope.es/docs/2015/10/21/19370001_94_36_0.pdf

    Madrid radio Cope confirms story about a complaint regarding pressure on linesman. They name member referee committee and publish document.

    Threatened linesman filed formal complaint with anti-corruption prosecutor and Spanish police is now investigating the case. [l'esportiu]

    The idea is for the linesman to make the wrong calls, because it causes less upset than when the referee himself makes them. [l'esportiu]

    Another linesman, from another referee trio, would also have been given the same instructions to favour Madrid in upcoming clasico. [l'esp]

    When linesman refused, he got phone call from inside Spanish federation threatening him that his career could end soon. [l'esportiu]

    Linesman got told by his referee that he had been given instructions from referee committee to benefit Madrid in upcoming clasico. [l'esp]


    I like how they moved from penalty bias to linesman bias, as it's more easily hidden, but as if not more effective.
     
  8. yoanaidarov

    yoanaidarov Member+

    Real Madrid
    Bulgaria
    Sep 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria
    10/10 would read again. My favorite thread in this forum.
     
  9. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It will be even better when Madrid get relegated after this blows out.
     
  10. CR7PT

    CR7PT Member+

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Mar 26, 2014
    Portugal
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Is this sh*t still running?
     
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  11. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It has run many years lmao, it's how you won 11-12 Liga.

    Another Calciopoli brewing in Spain.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...vour-Real-Madrid-month-s-clash-Barcelona.html


    Funnily Barca lost 13-14 La Liga with this Messi goal wrongfully called as offside:

     
  12. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Barca lost 13-14 La liga because TATA and team was a joke. Besides its fair to assume that AM did not receive damaging calls from officials through the season? :confused:
     
  13. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Doesn't matter if the team was bad or good, what matters in this is that Barca lost the league in the biggest match of the season, with wrongful offside call.
     
  14. CR7PT

    CR7PT Member+

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Mar 26, 2014
    Portugal
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Lol, you brought a dailymail link to the conversation, you lost all credibility (not that you had much)
     
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  15. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There are 3 ways Madrid are getting helped in La Liga by refs. First it was all penalties, then they moved to offside calls, but there's also third one, carding dynamic, which has clear power to make other team dominant and other submissive:

    Celta Vigo 19 - 4 Barcelona - Fouls
    Celta Vigo 2 - 2 Barcelona - Cards
    Celta Vigo 4 - 1 Barcelona - Result

    Celta Vigo 17 - 16 Real Madrid - Fouls
    Celta Vigo 5+1 - 1 Real Madrid - Cards
    Celta Vigo 1 - 3 Real Madrid - Result

    And no those are Opta statistics, they're not from book of jokes like they seem.
     
  16. CR7PT

    CR7PT Member+

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Mar 26, 2014
    Portugal
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    You must have not seen the game, they were like they finished that game with 10. There's a fool who punched Vazquez and got away with it...

    But please, do me a favour, go back to page 1, take a look at bad boy messi against Atletico and then shut the f*ck up.
     
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  17. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    x2
    spot on
     
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  18. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    In top games against A.Madrid, A.Bilbao, Malaga and Celta Vigo 15-16 La Liga

    Real Madrid 50 - 62 Opponent Fouls
    Real Madrid 12 - 19+2 Opponent Cards
    Real Madrid 0.24 - 0.34 Opponent Cards/Fouls (including 2 reds)

    Barcelona 24 - 73 Opponent Fouls
    Barcelona 6 - 11 Opponent Cards
    Barcelona 0.25 - 0.15 Opponent Cards/Fouls

    Barcelona and Real Madrid getting the same amount of cards per fouls, but Madrid opponent gets twice the amount of cards than opponent of Barcelona. Real Madrid gets help against their opponents, opponents of Barcelona get help against Barcelona.

    Again clear indication of bias.
     
  19. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Anti-corruption public prosecutor has started investigating complaint from a linesman about pressure to favor Madrid in clasico. [el mundo]

    All 10 referees and 20 linesmen in Barcelona games this Liga will testify in case of linesman pressured to go against Barcelona. [cope]
     
  20. CR7PT

    CR7PT Member+

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Mar 26, 2014
    Portugal
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Love how you pick up random stats, turned them a little to make a dumb point. You do realize that your whole argument goes down the drain when considering that the amount of cards may not come from the amount of fouls, but from the seriousness of it, right? Some players can make harsher fouls, some don't. Some players can be repetitive, some don't. But yeah, keep up the good work :thumbsup:
     
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  21. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    You may not realize that the rules are the same for everybody, or at least they should be. You should also study some mathematics to understand about statistical averages.
     
  22. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    A linesman who was to assist referee Fernandez Borbalan in clasico has been replaced. Not clear if link with case of pressured linesman [md]

    Referee committee inform media that Clasico linesman was replaced due to injury. Deny link with case of linesman pressured to favor Madrid.

    :rolleyes:
     
  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    The suspicious thing is the 4 games/opponents you chose to focus on. Why Malaga? Not a top team at all.
    A more objective analysis would be to look at similar stats for matches against the Spanish teams playing in Europe (ie. the top 7). So Villarreal, Bilbao, Sevilla, Valencia and Atletico
     
  24. CR7PT

    CR7PT Member+

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Mar 26, 2014
    Portugal
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    And again you can't just go through the stats without looking into the game. One could argue that Ronaldo is at his top form considering he has 18 goals in 15 games, but someone who actually watches the game knows that he's in a bit of a struggle. Same applies for fouls and cards. Just because the opponent has less cards in one match than the other, doesn't mean the seriousness of the fouls are the same. Don't be so biased and stop posting crap.
     
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  25. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What on earth are you talking about, watching games is the reason why I discovered such method of bias. It's so obvious, refs taunt Barca players and then give card as soon as they respond. There's clear and concrete bias in this also:

    Round 28 Barcelona - Real Madrid (at 1-1) Mateu Lahoz gives a first yellow for a dive and nothing more from the continuous and clear harassment "you like what you see" from Cristiano Ronaldo (RMA)


    Round 33 Espanyol - Barcelona (at 0-2) Mateu Lahoz gives a first yellow from disagreeing, and additional red from much less "always the same" from Jordi Alba (BAR)


    Concrete bias again.

    First it was average penalties, then after it was on scrutiny, they changed it to offside bias which is more easily hidden (already on investigation as actual ref whistleblowed it) and also foul/card bias which is also obvious. They do it in tough games, and try statistically hide it in easy games.
     

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