Copa Sudamericana 2015 [r]

Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by JAIME CHILE, May 21, 2015.

  1. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Country:
    Chile
    Clubes clasificados a la Copa Sudamericana 2015 (hasta este momento):

    River Plate, Huracán, Lanús, Independiente de Avellaneda, Tigre, Arsenal, Belgrano.
    Real Potosí, Bolívar, Aurora, Oriente Petrolero.
    Atlético-PR, Ceará, Brasilia.
    Universidad de Concepción, Huachipato, Universidad Católica, Stgo.Wanderers.
    Deps.Tolima, Independiente de Sta.Fe, Águilas Doradas, Junior.
    Emelec, LDU de Quito, Liga de Loja, Universidad Católica de Quito.
    Libertad, Sportivo Luqueño, Olimpia, Nacional.
    Melgar, Unión Comercio, Universitario, León de Huánuco.
    Dep.La Guaira, Dep.Anzoátegui, Zamora, Carabobo.

    Faltan 5 clubes de Brasil y 4 clubes de Uruguay.
     
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  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Watching Junior back in a continental tournament will be fun.
     
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  3. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Country:
    Colombia
    hells ya
     
  4. midfield.design

    May 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Same could be said for Liga de Quito they were winning cups left and right in 2008 and 2009
     
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I have not seen them play lately so I don't know how entertaining they are.
     
  6. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Country:
    Chile
  7. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Country:
    Bolivia
    Oriente getting their ass beat by Nacional in Santa Cruz....is not good.

    But tehy themselves are not a good squad...hoping for the best with Bolivar...but expecting the worst.

    They LOST to Oriente on Friday 1-0 in a horrible match. Bolivar do not have the same chemistry like in 2014, despite having essentially the same base. Change of coach, a Bolivian one over Azkargorta, to give him a chance and save the club some money...looks to be a gamble that will not pay off.

    Hoping I am surprised though....but so far every game as of late since he's been hired, Bolivar has looked really bad and disconected especially in teh back where communication is key.
     
  8. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Country:
    Chile
    Wanderers play today: no Pizarro, plus set pieces are this squad's Achillees' heel vs. a Paraguayan team. I'm hoping Luna in the back comes through, as well as Ormeño and Rosales in midfield so that Muñoz can nick a goal but it seems like a tall order. SW have not played in an international tourney since 2004 and Libertad have been around the block for a while; Almeida has an experienced squad.

    Should be a good game.
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    First day I watch and it's been a 0-0 snoozefest so far.
     
  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
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  11. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Country:
    Chile
    @chaski : where is the Copa Sudamericana Sabio, breh?
     
  12. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Itchycoo Park
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Country:
    Northern Ireland
    I will set up a prediction contest starting with the segunda fase, August 25
     
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  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Very bad start for Bolivia and Peru in this edition. It seems unlikely any of the Bolivian teams will get through, and only Universitario from Peru is in a good position to advance.

    Venezuelan teams doing ok, with La Guairá getting the tie away (others tied at home). Still, expect them to lose steam in the second games. Colombia in good position to get all four through.

    Uruguay likely to get three through, defeating Bolivian teams. The fourth is one of the most interesting: Danubio vs. Catolica (Chile). I expect the Chileans to win that one.

    In the three duels between Chileans and Paraguayans, the latter have taken a slight advantage. If Libertad can beat Wanderers at home, and Nacional keep their advantage over Concepcion, the Guaranis may get a poker.
     
  14. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Apr 22, 2014
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Country:
    Romania
    in North :
    Paraguay 4/4
    Uruguay 3/4
    Chile 1/4
    Bolivia 0/4

    in South :
    Colombia 4/4
    Ecuador 3/4
    Peru 1/3
    Venezuela 0/4

    When I began to follow CONMEBOL competitions .... I knew Bolivia clubs are too poor for this zone. But now, Venezuela is 10th, with Bolivia, Ecuador & Peru in fight for 7th, 8th and 9th places.

    Ahead, Uruguay was better, but now they play a middle football (not good, but better than others) and is 6th for me. Top5 is for Argentina (which are ahead Brazil in last years), Brazil, Colombia, Paraguay & Chile
     
  15. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    River have a tough road to the final.

    Their worst case scenario would probably be this.

    Liga de Quito
    Libertad
    Goias
     
  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    At the end of the first round, we have:

    Paraguay = 4 (Perfect!)
    Colombia = 4 (Perfect!)
    Uruguay = 3
    Ecuador = 2
    Chile = 1
    Peru = 1
    Venezuela = 1
    Bolivia = 0

    Very good start for Uruguay, comparing to previous editions. Paraguay and Colombia continue their good form. Bolivia goes back to the bottom, and Venezuela & Peru almost join them there. Together with Chile, that is having a bad year in what respects clubs.
     
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  17. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Apr 22, 2014
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Country:
    Romania
    Why will qualify from Second Round, by me :D
    LDU v Nacional Py => Nacional Py (Paraguay)
    Defensor v Universitario => Universitario (Peru)
    Nacional v Santa Fe => Santa Fe (Colombia)
    La Guaira v Luqueno => Luqueno (Paraguay)
    Brasilia v Goias => Goias (Brazil)
    Olimpia v Aguillas => Olimpia (Paraguay)
    Tigre v Huracan => Tigre (Argentina)
    Ponte Preta v Chapecoense => Ponte Preta (Brazil)
    U Catolica v Libertad => Libertad (Paraguay)
    Bahia v Sport => Sport (Brazil) [first leg was 1-0 for Bahia]
    Arsenal v Independiente => Independiente (Argentina)
    Joinville v Atletico PR => Atletico (Brazil)
    Tolima v Junior => Junior (Colombia)
    Emelec v Juventud => Emelec (Ecuador)
    Belgrano v Lanus => Lanus (Argentina)

    World Ranking by FootballSize for remaining clubs in Copa Sudamericana :

    13 CA River Plate (Buenos Aires) 1553.40 Argentina
    19 Club Emelec 1430.91 Ecuador
    27 CA Libertad Asuncion 1294.79 Paraguay
    38 CD Independiente Santa Fe (Bogota) 1196.60 Colombia
    65 CA Lanus (Greater Buenos Aires) 942.10 Argentina
    71 Club Nacional de Py (Asuncion) 910.71 Paraguay
    72 Club Nacional de Football Montevideo 908.97 Uruguay
    77 CA Olimpia Asuncion 883.66 Paraguay
    80 Universidad Catolica (Santiago de Chile) 856.69 Chile
    102 Arsenal de Sarandi FC (Avellaneda, Greater Buenos Aires) 756.10 Argentina
    118 Defensor Sporting 693.94 Uruguay
    134 LDU Quito 643.78 Ecuador
    166 Deportes Tolima 559.87 Colombia
    173 Atletico Junior Barranguilla 546.44 Colombia
    185 CA Tigre (Victoria, Buenos Aires) 529.55 Argentina
    238 Esporte Clube Bahia (Salvador, Bahia) 450.10 Brazil
    240 Aguillas Dorados (ex-Itagui Ditaires / Aguilas Pereira) 449.43 Colombia
    247 Universitario de Deportes 442.92 Peru
    391 Goias Esporte Clube (Goiania, Goias) 341.20 Brazil
    394 Club Atletico Paranaense (Paranaense) 338.40 Brazil
    413 Independiente Avellaneda 330.65 Argentina
    416 Sport Club do Recife (Recife, Pernambucano) 330.55 Brazil
    444 Club Sportivo Luqueno (Luque) 317.34 Paraguay
    570 AA Ponte Preta (Campinas, Sao Paulo) 273.40 Brazil
    660 CA Belgrano de Cordoba 247.05 Argentina
    768 Atletico Huracan 225.00 Argentina
    1041 Deportivo La Guaira 177.61 Venezuela
    1242 Juventud de Las Piedras 153.90 Uruguay
    1855 Asociacao Chapecoense de Futebol (Santa Catarina, Catarinense) 95.30 Brazil
    2084 Joinville FC (Catarinense) 78.50 Brazil
    2305 Brasilia FC (Taguatinga, Brasilia, Distrito Federal) 64.20 Brazil
     
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  18. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Country:
    Chile
    Another shit year for Chilean clubs. :thumbsdown:
     
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  19. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Country:
    Bolivia
    ^^Same for Bolivian clubs.
     
  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Bueno menos mal tienen una seleccion para sacar la cara.
     
  21. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Apr 22, 2014
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Country:
    Romania
    Copa Sudamericana idon't pass Copa Merconorte and Copa Mercosur .... same system, regional. Wy Conmebol protect Brazil and Argentina? teams from 4th brazilian league play in Second Round ... and teams from Uruguay, Colombia, Paraguay must fight for a place one against other.
     
  22. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    I dont undertand this point........Merconorte was a shitty tournament, very easy for colombians in all the history...before was the copa conmebol

    “quality“ of their leagues.
     
  23. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Apr 22, 2014
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Country:
    Romania
    In First & Second Round, Copa Sudamericana is as Copa Merconorte and Mercosur , with North and South regions
     
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  24. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Apr 1, 2012
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Country:
    --other--
    #24 Gilbertsson, Aug 21, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2015
    River Plate plays now in Copa Sudamericana. Unusual to see this, since they are Copa Libertadores holders. Complicated competition to understand. Criteria for the entrance for example.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Copa_Sudamericana

    River Plate is in Round of 16.:thumbsdown: Some interesting clubs play here: LDU Quito, Nacional Montevideo, Goias, Tigre, U. Catolica, Libertad, Bahia, Independiente, Emelec, Lanus.:)

    River Plate will win this edition, the pattern is obvious to all of us.:D:whistling:

    I have noticed one player of Croatian origins, relatively new at the scene. Youth career: U. Catolica and Real Madrid. Maybe promising player.

    Benjamin Kuščević Jaramillo. Anyone knows more about him? His origins are from the island of Brac in Croatia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brač

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamín_Kuscevic

    Marko Biskupovic Venturino is an older known player. Director of football in U. Catolica is Jose Maria Buljubasich.

    Federico Rasic plays for Arsenal de Sarandi.
     
  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    I doubt that river win this time.
     

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