Copa Libertadores 2019

Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by Century's Best, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    My predictions for every group:

    A) 1.River 2.Inter 3.Alianza 4.Palestino
    B) 1.Cruzeiro 2.Huracan 3.Emelec 4.Lara
    C) 1.Olimpia 2.Godoy Cruz 3.Concepcion 4.Cristal
    D) 1.Flamengo 2.Liga 3.Peñarol 4.San José
    E) 1.Mineiro 2.Cerro 3.Nacional 4.Zamora
    F) 1.Palmeiras 2.Junior 3.San Lorenzo 4.Melgar
    G) 1.Boca 2.Paranaense 3.Wilstermann 4.Tolima
    H) 1.Gremio 2.Libertad 3. Católica 4.Central

    The only places I have doubts are 2nd place of group C (because other than Olimpia they are all trash) and second place of group D (because of altitude factor and how random Peñarol usually is).
     
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  2. SiempreCrema

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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Peñarol have been trash the past 7 years. Nacional is usually the random one. They have had some very good, and very average teams in the past decade.
     
  3. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Melgar start their campaign with a 0-0 draw at home to San Lorenzo. Disappointing. I'm under the mentality that the Peruvian league may be bad, but it's not that bad to lose to Argentina's bottom team. Luckily, they didn't lose, but this was the game to get all 3 points. Melgar really lack attacking depth. They had no game changer on the bench. This is why I think Alexi Gomez would be a good signing for them. Hopefully Melgar get just 1 win in this tournament. The fact they've made it here is already a success as it is.

    As for the other games, I'm surprised that Flamengo won in Oruro. San Jose are doing well in Bolivia and play in higher altitude than La Paz. I genuinely thought they would take it. Not much to say about the other games as most were 0-0. I saw a bit of Tolima vs Athletico Paranaense in which the Colombians won 1-0, but it was dull and not a lot to say about it.

    Anyways. fingers crossed for Cristal and Alianza today. I think both have a chance at getting something. Cristal because they aren't taking on the strongest opposition in the world and Alianza because they are a lot stronger than last year and are at home. Both are rightfully underdogs but I do believe one will get something from their games.
     
  4. SiempreCrema

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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Gutted at the Alianza result :(
     
  5. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
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    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Don’t be upset. At least you didn’t lose 3-1 and mark the end of your history like some other teams
     
  6. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    #31 pipinogol, Mar 7, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2019
    Now that you mention that I remember like 2 years ago Arsenal (who were dead bottom out of 28 teams in Argentina) defeated Aurich 6-1 :ROFLMAO:

    Anyway... all argentine teams drew their first match somehow. I think all of them are "good" results considering different circumstances. Boca and San Lorenzo earned points in the altitude, River had IMO a moderately tough opponent and Godoy Cruz and Central played the hardest opponent in their groups at home (good result considering GC and Central are garbage in the league).
     
  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    #32 HomietheClown, Mar 7, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2019
    Should not be gutted at all Siempre Crema. Alianza was very fortunate to even get the point and their fans should be happy.

    I will say that they were organized and defended very well for the most part but you can tell that River was the much better squad. And if it were not for Santos Borre's lack of cold blood on the Penalty Alianza would have zero points right now.
     
  8. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    No comparison because Juan Aurich were also bottom of the league and were eventually relegated.
     
  9. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    While nothing in your post is untrue, you seem to be forgetting that it was a last minute equalizer.

    However, I said the aim would be 4 points. A win at home to Palestino should do the job now. Alianza were never going to make it through this group but I did say they are going to make it tough for their opposition.
     
  10. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
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    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Libertad is killing it out there. Could they make a deep run and, dare I say it... put up a fight for the title? They’ve already taken down Atletico Nacional, Gremio, The Strongest, and Universidad Catolica. Not bad..
     
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    And they have done it with two different managers.
     
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  12. SiempreCrema

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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I liked what I saw from Melgar yesterday. They were beaten 3-0 because Palmeiras are better and were at home. However, they still really lack bite and that will be their undoing.

    Cristal on the other hand... I was at the game, and gosh they were awful.
     
  13. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Junior is winnable for Melgar.

    Colombian teams are brilliant but they seem to roll over in the Libertadores in recent times. Since Atletico Nacional won it, nothing has been going for them.

    They have shown in the Sudamericana that they are capable.
     
  14. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
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    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Do they only begin using VAR in knockout stages? A suuuuper clear penalty just wasn’t called for River (Palestino’s GK straight up tackled Suarez), and there was also another one missed earlier on (handball in the box, but the ref called a FK instead of a PK).
     
  15. SiempreCrema

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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I knew Alianza would lose, but at the same time I'm surprised with how good Internacional are. They are genuine contenders, and this without Guerrero yet.

    On the other hand, the scheduling is awful. Alianza get 3 away games in a row, Cristal get 3 home games in a row. Seriously what were they thinking!?
     
  16. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Internacional has been rebuilding since it played the second division in 2017. It came back to the first division last year and finished in 3rd place in the Campeonato Brasileiro. That said, up until less than 2 weeks ago, Internacional's offense ranked 14th out of the 20 teams who will play the 2019 Campeonato Brasileiro.

    The team went through a long drought re: Libertadores competitiveness after 2010. Penarol took them out in 2011, Fluminense in 2012, although they did make a semifinal run in 2015. I do wonder how they'll do this year. It's not common that Internacional and Grêmio are in the Libertadores in the same year and that both are quite solid (although Grêmio played like garbage vs. Libertad this week, and at home I might add).
     
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  17. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Lol bolivian teams of this edition are down right amateur. Imagine how many goals San José and Wilstermann will concede in the Maracaná and Bombonera.
     

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