Copa Libertadores 2018

Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by Century's Best, Dec 26, 2017.

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  1. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #651 celito, Nov 25, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2018
    The whole thing is going to be tainted regardless of what happens . Unless they wait at least a week possibly . But that doesn’t seem possible given the scheduling . My proposal would be play two weeks from now . Because Libertadores needs a champ . But send Palmeiras to the CWC :D
     
  2. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  3. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  4. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    River fans at the stadium today

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  5. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what happens now?
     
  6. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The club presidents will meet with CONMEBOL on Tuesday to discuss a future match date. Boca will request the win without play, although CONMEBOL is persistent on the match being played.

    The problem is with the scheduling.. The international G-20 summit will take place in Buenos Aires this week, so it won't be played for at least a week. Saturday, December 8th is a tentative date (just days before the start of the CWC), but that's only based on logical predictions rather than concrete facts.

    Another possibility is it being played on a neutral pitch without fans, although that would give Boca the benefit.

    For now, we wait.. anything can happen and decisions will continue changing, as they have repeatedly since the match was originally suspended.
     
  7. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Away supporters have been banned for a number of years when Ajax and Feyenoord play. Things seem to have settled down and there was talk about changing the policy but I don't think it will happen.

    Let's hope the match takes place this afternoon. I'm looking forward to watching.

    EDIT: Oops, just saw that it is postponed.
     
  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    que papelon
     
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  9. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the crazy ideas being brought up is playing it in Abu Dhabi so the winner stays and participates in CWC.
     
  10. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    La final más bochornosa de la historia, un poco de orgullo me da...
     
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  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    If that's the case I'm there!

    But seriously, how are fans supposed to plan their travel? Even if the second leg had taken place as scheduled it would have been the last confederation decider, two weeks after Africa and Asia.

    Shame, with Al Ahly and Persepolis losing their respective finals we are already looking at low attendance for UAE 2018. Oh well, I'll be there.
     
  12. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that's the idea ;)
     
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  13. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Seems like the best solution ... after mine of course.
     
  14. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Exactly... And it seems like the most practical idea given the circumstances.
     
  15. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scolari says Boca should be champions.

     
  16. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We missed the greatest final of all time. It won't be the same. I had my hopes after the extraordinary 1st match we had, I was looking forward to it and the fans simply ruined it. I don't think Boca deserves to win it on the table because it didn't happen in the stadium, it happened in the street. You cannot punish River for this. And regardless, the CONMEBOL knows that winning on the table will be the start of huge problems from fhe fans. They won't do it. I would cancel the ritle totally this year, it won't end up well no matter how you will look at it.
     
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  17. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I would say the main reason that CONMEBOL is not giving Boca the title yet is because of money and they just don't want the final to be decided this way. In 2015, correct me if I am wrong Boca/River fans, it was 1 fan who screwed things up. Yes it was on the field as opposed to off the field, but I'd think they could easily punish River this time to at least try and set an example. If this was a R16, QF, or even SF, I think they would have an easier time making this decision.

    In hindsight, they should have suspended Boca for at least a season or two (as long as they were eligible). Like they should have suspended Corinthians when that kid died in Bolivia. You'd hope that's one way some fans will think twice before doing something stupid.
     
  18. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #668 pibe10, Nov 25, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2018
    But this is why the conmebol is so fuc*ed up: because they never acted like they should in the past, they clearly cannot do nothing now, and again, I disagree that they could easily punish River. If a River fan will throw a rock on Tevez in the street, will it be River's fault? Same thing here. It was the police's fault. And yes, I think they should act differently in the final and in a knockout stage.
     
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  19. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Right outside the stadium before a game, yeah there should be punishment . It’s not about what’s fair for the team . It’s about trying to hit where it hurts the fans so there is a lesson learned .

    The only thing police could have really done is try and block the whole road that leads to the stadium which is seldom done .
     
  20. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Again, disagree. The team is in charge INSIDE the stadium, not outside and it doesn't matter how much close it is to the stadium or when. This is why the policemen are being paid. And you forget that beside fans, you also have players here who worked extremely hard to get there. They clearly shouldn't been punished for something that happened in the street.
     
  21. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In Brazil one game Santos and São Paulo shared the bus to a game to promote peace because of some fan violence events. That’s something that would easily solve this problem here .
     
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  22. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    With all due respect, the hate between River and Boca fans is beyond that in my opinion. No one would take that chance because you would end up with dead fans or at least injured. I do like the idea though.
     
  23. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: the Boca incident I think they pinned it on one guy but he had to have had some help.

    I like that. While we're also talking crazy ideas how about cancel the final and send a combined Boca and River squad to CWC. Imagine if they win it. Okay enough crazy talk. :p
     
  24. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  25. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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