Que le paso a Atletico Nacional? 3 partidos, 3 derrotas... ni una sombra del equipo que vimos el año pasado
I'm really finding myself to like the Paraguayan sides this year. Libertad are playing with a lot of organization and tactical awareness. Atletico Mineiro showing more quality in the final third though. Could go either way this game.
Penarol security trapped Palmeiras players in the field after the game by keeping the gates off the field closed. Palmeiras security had to fight through security to bust the gate open.
Lose two games with a combined 6-4 score after making racist remarks and after being up 2-0 in the return match only to lose 2-3 at home, lock the gates closed to trap the visiting team on the field, and to then assault them. What is it with certain CONMEBOL teams who act up like this? Reminds me of Argentine Juniors vs. Fluminense, Estudiantes vs. Internacional... lose and resort to MMA. Pathetic Peñarol... pathetic.
Perhaps, but had Peñarol won, would they still have locked the doors to assault Felipe Melo? They were mad they lost - they did the exact same thing to Flamengo in 1999, without provocations. Sore losers.
Yes, poor innocent Palmeiras player, they were just trying to get out of the fight: ESTO ES INCREÍBLE | En medio de los incidentes, Yerri Mina ¡LE ROBÓ LOS EQUIPOS A UN FOTOGRAFO! https://t.co/ihOK7zIg0Y— PasesUruguay (@PasesUruguay) April 27, 2017
After they were attacked by photographers who used their camera tripods, I speculate looking for the same type of weapon makes sense. I mean, it happened in Uruguay - it wasn't a fair fight to begin with.....
Its no surprise this incident happened to Peñarol, a team well known as the Boca Juniors equivalent in Uruguay... That being said, the Palmeiras fans and players behaved like savages as well. Felipe Melo was throwing haymakers like there was no tomorrow. It take two to tango, and it also takes two to start a brawl, and both teams brawled and embarrassed themselves. Obviously, Penadoy deserves perhaps a bigger chunk of the blame, but Palmeiras were not exactly innocent choir boys there and Melo should be given a long ban
Please, don't play the innocent lamb, brazilian clubs are experts in provocation too. And not only with uruguayan or argentine clubs... America-Sao Caetano, Inter-Chivas, Huachipato-Gremio, The Strongest-Sao Paulo and the list goes on. You say others are sore losers, brazilians are sore winners. Many brazilian players like Felipe Melo LOVE to taunt opponents before and during matches. The only difference is that when the "brigas" happen in Brazil the police intervenes inmediately (to beat up only the foreigners, of course, it's the most brutal and xenophobic police in latin america), so the incidents are cut short.
Had everything that occurred last night happened with River Plate rather than Palmeiras, and had Alario, Driussi, or Fernandez been exactly in the same position as Felipe Melo - and then had the given River Plate player started swinging as several Peñarol swarmed him, would you have blamed him? Palmeiras was the visiting squad; they were on hostile ground, and Felipe Melo was spoken to with racist terms by Peñarol players last night and in Brazil. He was already upset, and many local players went after him. Additionally, at the end of the first match in Brazil, members of Peñarol's delegation - not players, but STAFF - warned Palmeiras' people that they were going to do something in Uruguay. Or do you think Palmeiras wanted to spend extra money for no reason by bringing oh, a mere and insignificant twenty bodyguards to Montevideo? And why were the gates to the tunnels/locker room locked? Melo should not be given a long ban - not unless Peñarol is punished with equal strictness and its racist players fined. As for Peñarol being Uruguay's Boca Juniors - well, no comment.
You didn't address my point. If local reporters are going to use tripods as weapons, players will do the same. EDIT: América-São Caetano? You must believe Cuauhtémoc Blanco was a barefoot priest.
I was wondering what he was carrying Have no clue what's up with that. Apparently journalists did get into the fight which is crazy. He is Colombian and not Brazilian though ... Seriously though, locking the gate off the field is absolutely absurd. You can say all you want about provocation on both sides, but that is just nuts.
Funny how pepino ignores that. Locking a visiting team on the field after it has defeated the local team and as the local team wants to start a fight. Perhaps he thinks that's simply a demonstration of sportsmanship.
Bullshit. 1 - You have no way of telling who started the fight in the stands. There were reports saying there were bombs thrown in the Palmeiras section. We'll see. Why aren't you calling Penarol fans savages ? The big issue is there was no security in the section dividing them. 2 - Felipe Melo was first grabbed by the throat and pushed during the initial confusion. He clearly backs away from the crowd. He backed away for nearly 30/40m and the Penarol player kept chasing him. WTF do you expect ? At some point you have to defend yourself. I don't care if that Penarol player didn't throw a punch, he is chasing Melo down. At the end another player picks up the corner flag until he decided to put it down. He will probably get a ban, but I have no problem with what he did here.
Stop posting facts which contradict what others want to believe! Peñarol did nothing of the sort, and locking the gates on visiting teams is simply charrua-style sportsmanship.
"... brazuca de m/erda, atajaste nuestros pelotazos y por eso perdemos, brasileño malparido!...." Sportsmanship, Manya style.
I am not saying Felipe Melo is innocent. He started it all 3 months ago by saying he'd slap Uruguayans if he had to to describe his personality. We won't know what was said right after the final whistle. Who threw the first verbal stone. All we have are the images and there will be accounts from both sides which will be spun. However, I cannot understand how you lock the gate the leads the players off the field and trap a visiting team in hostile territory. At the very least that is extremely irresponsible at most it was premeditated.
Why Palmeiras ? IMO, and this is probably what is going to happen, they should punish Penarol for not having appropriate security at the stadium and locking the gate on the field, ban Palmeiras fans for away games, and ban the main players involved from both teams. I am OK with banning Felipe Melo, but he was being chased down by 2-3 players.
@ 4:33 around where things start. Penarol players rounding up Felipe Melo. He pushes one away, another one comes, puts his arm around his neck/back and starts saying something and pointing to his face.
did you see how the fans acted in the stands? if you want them to understand that that behavior is not ok then you have to have harsh punishments. A simple "you are not allowed to be in the stands on away (or home) games" is not enough. If CONMEBOL had balls they would suspend them both immediately, but we both think they wouldn't do that, just look at what they did with that Argentinian team that showed up about an hour after the game was supposed to begin and nothing happens to them. CONMEBOL corruption is so bad they are almost as bad as FIFA.