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Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by SiempreCrema, Oct 27, 2016.
Si el uso del VAR queda a criterio del árbitro se van a desvirtuar muchos partidos...
Credit to Lanús for coming back after being down 0-2 at home, and after losing the first game 1-0. This Lanús team strikes me as treacherous and dangerous - and it will decide the final at home.
Having said that, I do feel bad for River Plate. A clear penalty in its favor was not called when it was winning 2-0 - a correct call (with or without VAR) would quite likely made it 3-0, and however psychologically tough Lanús proved to be in the 2nd half, there's no way to know Lanús would have come back from a 0-3.
Furthermore, Scocco had a clear chance to score which he missed. River did fight back and it could have won.
Why was the VAR used to clarify calls which benefited Lanús, whereas not for River? It is clear that River fans who think they were ripped off have a case.
In any case, Grêmio has plenty of reason to be doubly careful tomorrow, because anything can happen. Barcelona has not fared poorly on Brazilian soil in this Libertadores, and they will not go down without a fight.
Now, I could be completely mistaken, for the matches must be played. But I am already expecting a Lanús vs. Grêmio final. I only hope Grêmio gets the job done in its stadium on Wednesday.
I want to take a moment to congratulate Gremio on their Third Copa Libertadores...
River should stop crying; As bad as the refs were, River's defenders and goalie were even worse. I agree that VAR should have been used to clarify the non-penalty call, but that doesn't mean you can assume they would have scored the penalty, they've been know to miss in key situations. And as far as VAR being used to clarify calls that favor Lanus only, that's not true. It was used after Sand scored, to see if he was offside, which -had the goal been the incorrect call- would have benefited River; Unfortunately for River, the call from the field in that case was the correct one.
So cry me a river, Gayinas, the reason you lost because you allowed four goals to Lanus after being up three.
I don't see Lanus beating Gremio, I feel River would have given them a better game, but unfortunately they couldn't make it. Still, the games have to be played. And as you said, Gremio still has to close out Barcelona first. I expect they will, but it's not like a 3 goal lead guarantees anything.
It looks like Sand got the last laugh.
There's no guarantee - but River may well have scored, and if it did go into halftime at 0-3 with that 1-0 at home, it may have been too much for Lanús.
The defense did commit fatal errors.
Lanús and Grêmio in the final. Grêmio would be wise not to play the opening match the way it did tonight against Barcelona - not so much because it lost 1-0, but because Grêmio wasn't as effective as it was last week. It got the job done and reached the finals, where what has proven to be a very hungry Lanús team awaits.
And as the finals do not have extra weight given to away goals, this could always end in a PK shootout.
One encouraging statistic for Lanus is that since Estudiantes in 2009, all teams that played the return leg of a final at home lifted the trophy (both in Libertadores and Sudamericana, the latter if we don't count Chapecoense last year).