Copa Libertadores 2015 [r]

Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by JAIME CHILE, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Daniel Bilos?
     
  2. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Oh yeah, playoffs are stupid. Yet another Americanism, I'm guessing.

    I also hate the Apertura/Clausura stuff. One year, one champ. It's not that hard.
     
  3. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Country:
    Argentina
    Someone who came close was Dario Cvitanich, but his Boca team last the Final to Corinthians. Its not a copa libertadores champ, but linking former Yugoslavia to Argetnina- there is a guy called Estaban Saveljich who plays for Defensa y Justicia- a tiny club in the south of greater buenos aires- who was called up by Montenegro last FIFA date and even marked Zlatan. He is an extremely average defender and very slow, though he is tall (1.89 m) I sometimes wish Pisculichi had played for Croatia he definitely could have made an impact.

    As for Piscu making an impact on Wednday well he hasn't played much of late and is just coming back from an injury. I think he'll be on the bench, but no telling if he'll play or not. Its a shame as he was in such incredible form during the Copa Sudamericana last year, but this season he has been a different player, even his set pieces- normally his specialty- have been poor.
     
  4. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Country:
    Bolivia
    I read somewhere there was a handshake between both owners in that each home game wouldn't have any away fans....
     
  5. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Apr 1, 2012
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Country:
    --other--
    It's easy to check it out. Croatian surnames mostly end on -ic or -ich (Cvitanic, Piskulic, ancestor of Diego Maradona was Kariolic, Vuletic, Spajic, Milinkovic, etc. Croats live mostly in these countries: Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, some of them live in Uruguay, Paraguay, Venezuela.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Argentine_people_of_Croatian_descent

    This is really unique thing to achieve, in the same season Croatian players could win the Champions League (Ivan Rakitic) and Copa Libertadores (Leonardo Piskulic).

    Juan Yustrich (Justric) is probably the oldest Argentine - Croatian footballer in South America (1909. year).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Yustrich

    173 matches for Boca Juniors, really great achievement if we observe the status and the reputation of this club.

    Better players from Central and South America who have Croatian roots:

    1) Diego Maradona: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Maradona
    2) Ivo Basay Hatibovic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivo_Basay
    3) Dario Cvitanich: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darío_Cvitanich
    4) Jose Ivancovich: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Rafael_¨Fello¨_Meza_Ivancovich
     
  6. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Apr 1, 2012
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Country:
    --other--
    Dario Cvitanich is a typical goal scorer, not attractive in a usual sense of imagination, but he had a constant scoring period...Esteban Saveljic has Montenegrin roots, his height is also typical for ex-Yugoslavia countries, Montenegro really needs players, so they try to create something in the last five years.

    I remember Pisculichi from Mallorca, at first maybe average club, but he had nice impact on the results.

    Main criteria for Croatia is: if Argentina doesn't invite him, Croatia also won't. Similar case was with Daniel Bilos, in one period both countries were interested for him, but his career vanished basically.

    Nice amount of players with Croatian roots from all South American countries are weak for both countries (birth country and ancestor country)...at lease 10-20 active players have really average career.

    I thought that these players could make something stronger:

    Felipe Seymour Dobud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felipe_Seymour

    Universidad de Chile, Genoa...now Cruzeiro.

    Santiago Gentiletti Selak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Gentiletti

    Gimnasia La Plata, O'Higgins, Argentinos Juniors, San Lorenzo and Lazio.

    Both players played for better clubs, but pretty modest impact at the end.

    Example of Peruvian - Croats: also modest impact.

    Renzo Sheput: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renzo_Sheput

    Raul Ruidiaz Misitic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raúl_Ruidíaz

    Solid active players from Chile:

    Marko Biskupovic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Biskupovic

    Milovan Mirosevic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milovan_Mirošević

    In Brazil it's impossible for Croats to achieve some major success. Competition is just too strong. Only hope are Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Peru, maybe Bolivia.

    These Brazilian players maybe have Croatian roots:

    Robinson Popovits (Popovic): https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Rodrigues

    Leonardo Drugovich: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Drugovich
     
  7. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Apr 1, 2012
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    Toronto Croatia
    Country:
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  8. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Country:
    Argentina
    Not exactly. Tigres refused to sell tickets to River because they claimed they were already pre-reserved by their fans, so River accepted their request to not have away fans. Ideally, though, River's plan was to have an away section in both games -- as should have happened.
     
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  9. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    This both teams coming out the tunnel at the same time crap sucks.

    Nothing like the excitement of the visiting team getting jeered and then the crowd going bonkers for the home team. River's 1996 Libertadores final is still the craziest I've ever seen:

     
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  10. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    Tigres look like they will score everytime they get an attack, but for the most part River look in control. They lack something in attack though.
     
  11. Loco

    Loco Member

    May 1, 2005
    GOOOOOOOLAZO
     
  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Tigres esto no hubiera pasado si no le ganabas al equipo peruano
     
  13. Loco

    Loco Member

    May 1, 2005
    This is the Tigres that we were supposed to be scared of? Vamos River!!
     
  14. Loco

    Loco Member

    May 1, 2005
  15. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
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    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Country:
    Argentina
    Posted 8 months ago... QFT ; :D
     
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  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Mucho mas facil la fase de eliminacion directa que la de grupos.
     
  17. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    #1067 Century's Best, Aug 5, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2015
    Tigres' defense fell asleep right before halftime - River Plate smelled blood and went for it. Had the game ended 0-0 after 45, who knows? But it was not to be for Tigres.

    Tigres is a very good team; its categorical victory over Internacional showed it deserved to be in the final, as it had finished 3rd overall. Yet for some reason Mexican teams continue to fall short.

    A storybook season for River Plate - at least after a very shaky start. I sincerely thought River was going to fall in the group stage, and it is the height of irony that Tigres, with its victory against Juan Aurich, gave River new life. It was the better team in the round of 16 and the panadero guy, despite his criminal actions, made sure River would reach the quarterfinals... a round which Cruzeiro began with a heroic away win only to throw it in the garbage in the face of a hungry opponent. Guarani was never going to reach the final; its greatest achievement was eliminating an injury-ridden and crisis-mired Corinthians (and despite my bias against Corinthians, Corinthians had the means to defeat that team).

    Part of me wanted Tigres to win as River is an Argentine side, but after what the team went through (the way it was treated on the pepper spray night was shocking in its shame), tonight's result is poetic justice. And at least CONMEBOL will send a champion to the Club World Cup. Whatever roster changes may occur between now and December, I expect River (if it reaches the final) to put up more resistance against Barcelona than San Lorenzo did against Real Madrid.
     
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  18. spc3sc

    spc3sc Member+

    Jul 24, 2008
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Country:
    Peru
    Iván Bulos, top goalscorer of Peruvian Apertura, is of Croatian descent. There are big chances that he's called up for the next NT friendlies.
     
  19. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Country:
    Argentina
    Well, can't say i was rooting for River, but at least now we have another croatian descent player winner of the Cup...
     
  20. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Country:
    Argentina
    I called the winner 8 months ago.... The biggest eam on the continent- and also the best- won...

    River is now 4 points clear of Nacional in the all-time table of the Copa Libertadores. Don't worry boca fans @Moishe and @argentine soccer fan you guys are only 15 points behind.
     
  21. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Country:
    Argentina
    PD to the boca fans- keep winning with penalties, we won't need those- either way, you just lost at home to union surrendering 4 goals so good luck...
     
  22. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Country:
    Chile
    I guess it's not too bad River won: if Arévalo Rios had lifted the title, that would have made my eyes bleed.
     
  23. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
  24. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Country:
    Argentina
    #1074 RiverGaucho, Aug 6, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2015
    As a Chilean, what do you have against River, especially considering, well you know, Alexis Sanchez and Jose Marcelo Salas both made their names with us before going to Europe?
     
  25. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Country:
    Bolivia
    River didn't win on talent, both teams were very equal. They won it with brains and confidence. Well done, River.
     
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