Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Isn't Peñarol already qualified via the uruguayan league? Didn't they win a Pre-Libertadores mini-league or anything of the sort?
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 mm maybe i am not sure, liberman said that, my job is repeat the information here
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 According Wikipedia Peñarol goes to the qualifying round as "Uruguay 3" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores_2009 Take care with every word Libermann says he's a shithead. In a way or another it seems that FIFA is not kidding with Peru. Also if they pick the Sudamericana winner it could be conflicting, Inter and Argentinos have no chance to qualify via their respective leagues as far as i know so there's no problem though Estudiantes is likely to get qualified on the argentine table and i think Chivas will play the Interliga. Maybe this is what they mean when they said the Sudamericana winner to the Libertadores(which in the end doesn't involve the Recopa as it was thought).
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Why would Independiente go, though? First off, I think they should give the spot to another country with less teams participating (such as Colombia, Chile, Ecuador, etc.). But if they are going to give it to an Argentinean team, why not someone else? There are many teams ahead of Independiente in the current Tabla General to qualify for the Copa Libertadores (Boca, San Lorenzo, Estudiantes, Tigre, Velez, Lanus -already qualified-, Newell's, River -already qualified-, and Argentinos Jrs.). Makes no sense whatsoever.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 The idea of inviting Independiente and Santos is because they're 2 teams that won it many times and are going to miss it(in normal circumstances) and that would be a decision by CONMEBOL, though if the spots were given to the countries, it's up to the countries to decide how the teams qualify. In the words of Marcelo Palacios today: Independiente es invitado porque gano la copa 500 veces.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 For some reason I was thinking of Sudamericana. This would suck for Peruvian football, they have enough problems as it is. If they qualify via Interliga then yes. San Luis is the only club from Mexico qualified, they will be Mexico 1.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Tomorrow in Asunción, it'll be the draw of the Libertadores. What's know for now, while the sanction for Peru seems to be somewhat unclear for now, though it's believed that anytime soon it'll be official. The 3 peruvian spots would be "blank" for now, leaving the door open for the possibility that they won't get suspended(highly unlikely). It is not clear yet what would happen with the peruvian spots. A version indicates that there would be a draw and 3 countries would get the 3 peruvian spots and they'd assign them in any way they want, although there's the possibility that they directly give them to 3 chosen teams, the ones being mentioned for a while, Santos, Independiente and some sources also add Peñarol, i don't know why because Peñarol is already in the qualifying round, still the clubs are hopeful that they would be picked as a recognition to their history in the Libertadores. The case i'm following closely is Independiente's, some Libertadores' legends of Independiente were invited to the draw. Ricardo Pavoni(one of Independiente's former players invited) claims that there's nothing official yet, however they'd try to get one of the free peruvian spots for Independiente. Today Independiente's president, Julio Comparada, said that if given the chance AFA would give it to Independiente, to me at least that sounds a bit weird knowing that Comparada is an oppositor of Grondona and also there being rumours that Arsenal was in the talks.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 mexico will only have 2 team next year. the Conmebol plans to give a spot to Independiente for the 50th anniversary Peru will not get sanctioned.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Internacional and Fluminense want the 2 Peruvian spots. I really hope not, as Brasil along with Argentina have enough spots already, but knowing Conmebol they'l probably give it to Mexico or some other Concacrap country instead of giving it to another Conmebol country.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Just get on with it The Conmebol officials zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz They make Sepp Blatter look entertaining
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Luego de 45 minutos de discurso, comenzará el "sorteo". La Libertadores 2009 se jugará con balones similares a los de las ligas española e italiana.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Siendo que el actual campeon es de Ecuador, yo le daria uno de los cupos de Peru a ellos (Ecuador).
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Preliminary Round Colombia 3 vs Peñarol (Uru) Argentina 5 vs Vacante 3 (Peru 3's spot) Ecuador 4 vs Paraguay 3 Ecuador 3 vs Deportivo Anzoátegui (Ven) Brazil 5 vs Bolivia 3 Mexico 3 vs Universidad de Chile
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Lanús(Argentina), México2, Everton(Chile) y Caracas(Venezuela) en el mismo grupo 6.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Group 1 LDU Quito Sport Recife Chile 2 Ganador de Brazil 5 vs Bolivia 3 Group 2 Argentina 3 Paraguay 2 Deportivo Táchira (Ven) Ganador de Ecuador 3 vs Deportivo Anzoátegui (Ven) Group 3 River Plate (Arg) Nacional (Uru) Vacante 2 (Peru's 2 spot) Ganador de Ecuador 4 vs Paraguay 3 Group 4 Brazil 1 Defensor Sporting (Uru) Colombia 2 Ganador de Colombia 3 vs Peñarol (Uru) Group 5 Brazil 3 Universitario Sucre (Bol) Ecuador 2 Ganador de Argentina 5 vs Vacante 3 (Peru 3's spot) Group 6 Lanús (Arg) Everton (Chi) Caracas FC (Ven) Mexico 2 Group 7 Brazil 2 Aurora (Bol) Boyacá Chicó (Col) Ganador de Mexico 3 vs Universidad de Chile Group 8 Argentina 4 Libertad (Par) Vacante 1 (Peru's 1 spot) San Luis Potosi (Mex)
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Grupo muy difícil para el Chile2 (Cobreloa, Colo-Colo, Palestino o Rangers), ya que está el Campeón y 2 brasileños.
Re: Copa Libertadores 2009 Si, pero Sport Recife (a pesar de ser brasilero) no mete tanto cuco como los equipos de Brasil que son tradicionales... y Liga hace rato que no juega como el Campeon de la Libertadores... Pienso que podria haber sido peor. Ahora, verdaderamente lo vergonzoso... Argentina 5 vs Vacante 3 Brasil 5 vs Bolivia 3 Traten de hacerlo menos transparente, por favor.