Pre-match: Copa do Mundo 2018, Quartas-de-Final: Brasil vs. Bélgica, 6 de Julho de 2018

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  1. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
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    Location: Kazan Arena, Kazan, Russian Federation

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    Brazil roster:
    Goleiros:
    Alisson (Roma)
    Cássio (Corinthians)
    Ederson (Manchester City)

    Laterais:
    Danilo (Manchester City)
    Filipe Luís (Atlético de Madrid)
    Marcelo (Real Madrid)
    Fagner (Corinthians)

    Zagueiros:
    Marquinhos (PSG)
    Miranda (Inter de Milão)
    Thiago Silva (PSG)
    Geromel (Grêmio)

    Meio-campistas:
    Casemiro (Real Madrid)
    Renato Augusto (Beijing Guoan)
    Fernandinho (Manchester City)
    Paulinho (Barcelona)
    Philippe Coutinho (Barcelona)
    Willian (Chelsea)
    Fred (Shakhtar)

    Atacantes:
    Neymar (PSG)
    Gabriel Jesus (Manchester City)
    Roberto Firmino (Liverpool)
    Douglas Costa (Juventus)
    Taison (Shakhtar)


    Having reached the World Cup quarterfinals for the 7th straight World Cup since 1994 courtesy of its 2-0 victory over Mexico, Brazil attempts to go from the elite eight to the final four of the 2018 World Cup to face what is likely to be its most difficult test until now: Belgium.

    Belgium has raised eyebrows in this competition with its physically strong and agile players who manhandled Panama and Tunisia before eking out a 1-0 win over England. But Belgium’s dramatic 3-2 win over upstart Japan after the Japanese built a 0-2 lead in the second half of their round of 16 match have now led many to believe that however strong and talented this Belgian side, that it is by no means a team Brazil cannot defeat.

    Belgium qualified for Russia by wreaking havoc in UEFA’s Group H. With 9 wins and 1 draw, Belgium finished with a nearly perfect 28 points, 43 goals scored, and 6 allowed. Many detractors point to the brittle opposition in Group H: Greece, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Estonia, Gibraltar, and Cyprus. But Belgium steps to the Kazan pitch vs. Brazil with a 23-game unbeaten streak, with the last defeat having come at the hands of Spain in a mid-2016 friendly. In 2018 alone, like Brazil, Belgium played 4 friendlies before the World Cup, with a 4-0 rout of Saudi Arabia, a 0-0 with Portugal, a 3-0 win over Egypt, and a 4-1 win over Costa Rica, in 4 games played at the King Baudouin Stadium in Brussels.

    In the 2016 European Championship, Belgium finished second in Group E, with a 0-2 defeat to Italy, a 3-0 win over the Republic of Ireland, and a 1-0 win over Sweden. Belgium then obliterated Hungary 4-0 before being surprisingly defeated by Wales 1-3 after Radja Nainggolan scored the first goal of the match.

    Nainggolan’s retirement may cost the Belgians, as the well-rounded and skilled midfielder provided both defensive and offensive support. But Brazil too will be undermanned through the absence of one of its own midfielders as Casemiro, a pillar and a rock for Brazil in this World Cup, will be unavailable due to a suspension.

    Brazil’s full-backs will have their hands with the very physically intimidating, 6’3” Romelu Lukaku, who scored 3 goals for his country in this World Cup; however, as Japan learned, Belgium also has other options. Kevin De Bruyne, Marouane Fellaini, and Eden Hazard – all Premiership mainstays at Manchester City, Manchester United (like Lukaku), and Chelsea – bring fearsome attacking possibilities for the Belgians.

    Belgium deployed a 3-4-3 against Japan which switched to a formation with 4 full-backs when the Japanese had the football. Some say that Belgium, fresh from the near trauma of almost being eliminated by Japan, will approach the Brazil match more conservatively and attentively, starting with a variation of the 4-4-2.

    Brazil and Belgium have played very few times; Brazil occasionally schedules friendlies against European powerhouses such as Germany, England, and even Italy and France; but, with Belgium, the story is different. Before the 2002 World Cup round of 16 match won by Brazil 2-0, the last meeting between the two occurred in Antwerp in a 1988 friendly won by Brazil 1-2 (Brazil’s goals were scored by Geovani – Geovani Faria da Silva, who was one of the biggest Vasco names in the 1980s before the rise of Romário), with Leo Clijsters scoring for Belgium. The last match before then required another time warp to 1965, when as we know Brazil was the defending two-time World Cup champion and Brazil blasted Belgium 5-0 in Rio with a hat trick by Pelé and Flávio and Rinaldo scoring one each.

    However, the first-ever match between these teams brings bad memories to Brazilians: a 5-1 goleada by Belgium in Brussels in 1963, with a hat-trick by Jacques "Jacky" Stockman, who played his entire career in Belgium. This defeat followed a few defeats by Brazil in the South American Championship (Copa América) and Copa Roca, some with the “full” team and some with players who hadn’t been in the 1962 World Cup – and should have served as warning that Europe was developing new tactics. Poor organization by CBD (the old CBF) ignored this and 1966 was a disaster for Brazil. Incidentally, Belgium did not quality for 1966, but it did return for 1970, when it was eliminated in the group stage.

    With Neymar at full strength and Brazil having played an overall solid, self-controlled, tactically disciplined, and attentive game against Mexico, and with Tite thus far displaying wisdom in his substitutions, Brazil does have the manpower and the skill to defeat this good Belgian team Japan’s courage and sound fundamentals held Belgium to a 0-0 in the first half and with a bit of “jeitinho brasileiro,” Japan would have secured the 0-2 lead enough not to let Belgium get back in the game. Belgium knows Brazil is superior to Japan and will likely be as careful as it can, but if Japan exploited Belgium’s defense twice, it’s unlikely Brazil won’t do it at least once – if not more.

    The following was Belgium's starting XI vs. Japan on July 2, 2018:
    Courtois; Alderweireld, Kompany and Vertonghen; Meunier, De Bruyne, Witsel and Carrasco (Chadli); Mertens (Fellaini), Lukaku and Hazard. Manager: Roberto Martinez.
     
  2. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  3. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
  4. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I feel good about having Douglas Costa as an option on the bench for this game. The only thing that concerns me is the enigma surrounding our midfield options. We still haven't seen enough of Renato Augusto to know what kind of form he is in after recovering from his lengthy injury. Fred is a question mark. We do not have Casemiro for this game. Tite's options are limited. We do know that Tite has been subbing Paulinho off in every game, but Fernandinho won't be an option.
     
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  5. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    RIP Taison's WC
     
  6. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    So in the Mexico game we committed a grand total of 6 fouls. Casemiro got a YC for basically a regular foul, his only one in the game.

    What kind of bullshit is this ?
     
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  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    What do you mean? Osorio said we were assisted by the refs.
     
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  8. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    The rule in general is a bullshit one as well from FIFA. The good thing is Fernandinho has been good under Tite.
     
  9. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Seriously ! Casemiro has 3 fouls the whole tournament. And 2 YCs.
     
  10. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    Fernandinho will hold the fort this game, I can feel it. My concerns are Hazard and Lukaku, they’ve been excellent in this WC. Hope TS can deal with Lukaku, won’t be easy.

    When Brazil have the ball, though, I think we will create many good chances. Belgium plays with 3 CBs and they are all slow. This scheme is almost suicidal against us.
     
  11. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I have a feeling they will change their 3-5-2. The Japan game unfortunately may have been a wake up call. And given that counter goal they scored, which was absolute class, Martinez may be tempted to set them up on the counter.
     
  12. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    I don’t think he can field a team with 4 on the back. He doesn’t have any LBs on the roster and the team haven’t played this way for more than two years.

    He’ll have to sort the defensive scheme on the wings with the guys in the middle. If he plays Carrasco, who can’t mark anyone if his life depended on it, he’s screwed.
     
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  13. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    The solution is simple, FIFA needs to cut off the yellow card accumulation suspension. It ridiculous imo because only 4 teams will be able to play a maximum of 7 games.
     
  14. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    I was thinking, the best thing about Fernandinho playing is he trains with De Bruyen so he'll be familiar with covering him. However, that thought didn't amount to anything when Dante played in place of TS in 2014.
     
  15. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yeah ... the opposite is also true.
     
  16. Redshift

    Redshift Member+

    Dec 14, 2004
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Tite can go to a 4-3-3 if we need to score (Firmino for Paulinho, Douglas Costa for Willian if he's not having a good game), or a 5-3-2, possibly with a libero (Marquinhos for Paulinho) if we are leading comfortably and need to administer the result/counter.

    It creates more of a problem for man-for-man volante substitutions. Paulinho may have to play the whole game or Tite will have to improvise someone.
     
  17. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    We may finally see Fred in this game.
     
  18. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    How do you guys rate him? I don't think I've seen him play ever.
     
  19. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    I’ve seen some games in this year’s Champions League and was very impressed by his athleticism and movement. He reminds me of Zé Roberto.
     
  20. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I haven’t seen much from him other than that stint with Dunga and he was unimpressive but everyone except Willian was poor under Dunga. Pep being interested in him as a midfield, I would guess is a good thing.
     
  21. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The team doctors and physio's everybody should be given credit for the way they have treated costa. The injury recovery process is actually longer. He is now fit to take on Belgium. Great news.
     
  22. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    How many of you want firmino vs Belgium ? I think Jesus 's confidence is at rock bottom now having failed to score after 4 matches.....Firmino looks much better now
     
  23. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    Yeah, Firmino for sure. For me it is clear.
     
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  24. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    Tite knows it’s a confidence thing and one goal will change that but I think he should bench Jesus as well, he working hard defensively but everything else has been severely lacking and I don’t know how long we should wait around.
     
  25. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If Douglas costa and casemiro comes to the team i can even say that we are strong contenders without neymar.
     

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