Copa do Mundo 2018, Oitavas-de-Final: Brasil vs. México, 2 de Julho de 2018

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  1. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In that game in 2014 he only really had one really great save. The one on Neymar's header. Everything else was basically straight at him including the late TS point blank header. There is a tendency IMO to overstate a GKs performance when they pitch a shutout with X number of saves when a lot of them may have just been saves they are expected to make.
     
  2. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    The 2007 Copa America I believe he was the starting keeper as well. I remember him having a great game then as well.
     
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  3. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    Not too worried about Marcelo being out because Felipe Luis isn't too bad of a backup.

    More worried about the yellow cards accumulation. Fifa needs to reevaluate that rule, imo.
     
  4. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ochoa will be key for Mexico. Let’s hope he has a bad night sleep Sunday night.
     
  5. rich loc

    rich loc Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    He was, he was 21 years old.
     
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  6. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    Eh, I'd say it's more on Neymar wearing his shooting cleats. No more
    brincando com a bola, this is a World Cup!
     
  7. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Luis is better defensively but on the attacking front marcelo is better and has better chemistry with neymar
     
  8. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I told you man, one phenomenal save after another. I can see this happening Monday. I have a message to my buddies in Russia to round everybody up, go to the hotel Sunday night where Mexico is staying, and fuking scream all night long and horns!
     
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  9. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Neymar/Marcelo/Coutinho are the deadliest trio in the world, FROM THE LEFT. And since most teams, if not all teams, play extreme defensiveness against us, we need Marcelo!
     
  10. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Two questions coming in my mind before the game

    1. Is Douglas costa fit enough to feature in the game ?
    2. Will firmino start ahead of Jesus .
     
  11. Redshift

    Redshift Member+

    Dec 14, 2004
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  12. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Marcelo doubtful, DC out.
     
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  13. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    I actually prefer Filipe Luis in this game, because Mexico’s strategy will be to exploit the space on the wings, and Filipe is a stud defensively. The trio will be more needed deeper in the WC, not now.

    The mexico forum is funny right now, because they are couting that Marcelo being out will weaken our already “suspect” (their words) defense. Little do they now that Filipe Luis is an upgrade in this instance.

    And btw, why so many of our rivals think that our defense is iffy? what the hell are they watching?
     
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  14. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I agree. I am fine with F. Luis. Might actually prefer it. And he provides more support in attack than people think. Add to that that Marcelo was missing passes galore, and I hope F. Luis starts.

    Yeah I took at the Mexico forum which I never do, and they equate Marcelo out with a dent in our defense :confused:

    I have to say, I watched part of the Mexico x Sweden game and I thought Mexico were dong fine from mid first half to when they conceded the first goal. I didn't watch the first 25 mins. Everybody said they were a mess. That's not what I saw.
     
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  15. Bezhusan

    Bezhusan Member

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    May 30, 2018
    Until the first goal, they were fine. After the goal, however, the team broke down completely, reminded me of the 7-1, actually. It was that embarrassing.
     
  16. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I was thinking you can start both Filipe and Marcelo kinda of like Dunga did with Maicon and Daniel Alves but I can’t see Tite going that route. It have been never tested.

    I think Marcelo can transition to a midfield role smoothly. He pretty much plays like one anyway.
     
  17. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    Who would you remove? I could see something like that happening as a tactical change midway into a game
     
  18. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I take out Willian. Put Marcelo in Coutinho role and Coutinho on the right where he played for most of qualifying.
     
  19. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That doesn't make sense to me. Coutinho has been fantastic where he is playing. You don't break that just to fit Marcelo in, who may have skills to play that role but has almost never actually played it.
     
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  20. ripalino

    ripalino Member

    Feb 26, 2013
    Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Is DC out of the entire tournament or only next match..
     
  21. Kevin_405

    Kevin_405 Member

    Jul 30, 2012
    I hope we have Douglas costa and Danilo available.

    Fagner seemed really weak defensively against Serbia. I see mexicans studying films and picking that side.
    Danilo is not any better defensively, however he has size that can help in defense.

    If marcelo is fit then F luis should play in place of both fagner and danilo.

    Douglas costa is a big miss he was playing amazing in limited min. Hopefully he comes back for next match
     
  22. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He is doing field exercises including some light sprints. So I guess there is hope.
     
  23. SambaFootball

    SambaFootball Member

    santos
    Brazil
    May 28, 2018
    It is theory, not the real.
    Neymar dont need the LB who keep the ball too much.
    Neymar need a simple left back. Who pass him the ball quickly when he get much space. Marcelo always keep the ball and stolen time and space of Neymar. Neymar dont need the LB who wanna make something diffirrent everytime. Neymar need the simple like Jordi Alba or Kruzawa.
    Marcelo is a super player when play with Cr7 and Kross but not good when combine with Neymar and Coutinho . I dont remember any impress match of Marcelo when Neymar play with him. And in defense, F.Luis is better. He will make the leftwing more balance.
     
  24. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    If I’m an opposition coach though, I know and see that all the danger is coming from that side, I would make a concentrated effort to neutralized it.
     
  25. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Marcelo confirmed out for tomorrow.
     

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