Copa America 2019

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  1. http://24-7.football

    Athletic Bilbao
    Colombia
    Apr 29, 2019
    Colombia:
    https://www.elespectador.com/deport...uerreros-para-la-copa-america-articulo-863559

    Goalkeepers: David Ospina (Napoli), Álvaro Montero (Deportes Tolima), Camilo Vargas (Deportivo Cali)

    Defenders: Dávinson Sánchez (Tottenham), Stefan Medina (Monterrey), Yerry Mina (Everton), Cristian Zapata (Milan), John Lucumí (Genk), Santiago Arias (Atlético Madrid), Cristian Borja (Sporting Lisbon), William Tesillo (León, México)

    Midfield: Gustavo Cuéllar (Flamengo), Wílmar Barrios (Zenit St. Petersburg), Jéfferson Lerma (Bournemouth), Edwin Cardona (Pachuca), Juan Cuadrado (Juventus), Mateus Uribe (América, México), James Rodríguez (Bayern)

    Forwards: Luis Díaz (Junior Barranquilla), Radamel Falcao (Monaco), Duván Zapata (Atalanta), Roger Martínez (América, México), Luis Muriel (Fiorentina)

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  2. InterFan76

    InterFan76 Member

    Mar 20, 2012
    Hamburg,NJ
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Does anyone know if name and numbers will be on the back of Argentina jerseys for the Copa? I want to get Lautaro’s jersey but I want to make sure it looks exactly like the jersey they will wear in the Copa. Last night vs Nicaragua they only had numbers.
     
  3. HomietheClown

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    #28 HomietheClown, Jun 9, 2019
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    BTW,
    This is kind of old news but there's probably many people here asking why Japan and Qatar are the ones who are invited to the Copa America.
    Well, just like most things in life, just follow the money trails:


    http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/bein-sports-exclusive-copa-america-rights-27-markets-brazil

    Global broadcaster BeIN Sports has secured exclusive rights in 27 international markets to this year’s Copa América in Brazil.
    The agreement, brokered by Japanese marketing giant Dentsu
    , includes broadcast rights to South America’s international soccer tournament in Australia and New Zealand, in addition to contracts in France and the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, which were agreed earlier in the year.
    A month out from the tournament, which starts on 14th June and ends in Rio de Janeiro on 7th July, the deal also expands BeIN’s media partnership with Conmebol, South American soccer’s governing body, having also agreed to show three of the continent’s club tournaments in multiple territories.

    (And for those of you who do not know BeIn Sports is owned essentially by the Qatari government.)
     
  4. HomietheClown

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  5. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    Yes in 1999.
    What does that have to do with my post though?
     
  7. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Guy in the article say it was the first time CA calls teams from outside Americas.
     
  8. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
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    He said for the first time they invited two from outside the Americas. Usually it is at least one from the CONCACAF.
     
  9. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Just a stat: everytime Brazil has hosted the Copa America, they have won it. I don't expect this year to be any different. Brazil have lost at home less than 10 times in their history I think, they are simply a different beast at home and against South Americans they dominate.

    Think of it this way: Colombia and Chile were better than them in the 2014 World Cup, and still beat both. They lost to Germany because they are Germany. The inferiority complex exists with everyone else but Argentina, and they are not looking great if you ask me.

    If Brazil fails to win the Copa, then Tite really needs to go.
     
  10. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    That's a BS stat. We hosted it 4 times 3 of them 1949 and before. And in 89 it was a completely different format. It means nothing really.
     
  11. SiempreCrema

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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    That's not the point I'm making though.

    Brazil rarely lose at home to South Americans. The only 2 losses I remember off the top of my head are the Maracanazo in 1950 and to Peru in 1975. They've never lost at home in qualifying and won against 2 superior sides in the 2014 World Cup.

    I don't care about what the format was. My point was that Brazil rarely lose at home. They only do to superior, or similar sides to them.

    Records are there to be broken, but I honestly can't see it. Brazil are a different beast at home. Only one I can see knocking them out is Uruguay as the inferiority complex exists to a less extent with them.
     
  12. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Our record in qualifying at home is superb. Specially since we've maintained it since the format change to round-robin between all teams.

    But tournament is a different story. In 2014 we only beat Chile on PKs. Could have easily lost it in regular time too as Chile hit the post from a close shot near the end. If we don't win, I won't be that surprised. Uruguay and Colombia are tough. I have no clue what's going on with Chile. Argentina are a big question mark.
     
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    It will be difficult to beat Brasil in an elimination match at home but not impossible. Especially without Neymar.

    It may take a herculean effort but I could see Uruguay,, Argentina or even my Colombia doing it. But all in different ways and in different fashions.

    That said, they are still top dogs and favorites. Just not as invincible as I think they can be.
     
  14. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I'd much rather see Mexico and the United States participate in a Copa América than teams like Japan or Qatar. Mexico, at full strength, can compete with just about anybody and the United States has had some memorable moments in this tournament. It has been at most an infrequent participant, but it's still part of the New World.

    Besides, for fans living in the U.S. (raises hand), watching Telemundo's Mexican anchormen celebrating Mexican goals is always fun "golaaaaaaaaaaazo azo azo azo!"
     
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  15. HomietheClown

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    Maybe in 2024 the USA and Mexico will be invited again.
     
  16. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    They may be invited, but I'm not sure they'll want to participate in a tournament that might require them to fly six hours from group stage to knockout stage. If the planners divide the knockout brackets evenly between both countries, one team will still need to make the long flight for the final, and that alone is disruptive.

    Copa América 2020 should either have been hosted by the U.S., which has the infrastructure and the capability to host such a tournament every single summer - or not at all with a 5-year-long gap until 2024, at which time Copa América would have been held with the European Championship.
     
  17. HomietheClown

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    #42 HomietheClown, Jun 11, 2019
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    We are not sure what the 2024 format will be.

    I agree 2020 should have been played in the USA but CONMEBOL obviously does not agree.
    They found a way to make boat loads of money (Qatar) without having to rely on USA or Mexican television deals being the main cash flow.
     
  18. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    You think Brazil can be invincible at home? You're more optimistic about Brazil than many Brazilians! :D

    Brazil is definitely a top contender, but the matches must be played. We will all know for sure soon enough if any of the other teams has what it takes to eliminate Brazil.


    Well, the 2024 format is likely to be similar to what we've had in recent years. What will also happen is that it'll happen parallel to the European Championships. So it'll be peculiar to potentially have to choose between Germany vs. England or France vs. Netherlands or Italy vs. Spain while Bolivia vs. Venezuela is being broadcast at the very same time. I'll probably pick the European fixture. :p
     
  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    #44 HomietheClown, Jun 11, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2019

    I think if Brasil were fully healthy and fit and jelling at the right time they would be about as invincible as any host team in any competition. But of course every team has weaknesses.





    The Euro alignment will produce very little conflicts since the Euro matches are going to be played in the morning and afternoon for Western Hemisphere Time zones while the Copa America kickoff time slots will be evening times.
     
  20. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    BOG/US
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    htye bring more interest to the cup here in the US for sure
     
  21. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Very boring match as of now
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    IT got a little better in the second half.

    One team wanted to play futbol (or futebol). The other just wanted to play 10 guys in the box and hold on for dear life.
     
  23. SiempreCrema

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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
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    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Was hardly 10 in the box though. They had most of their players in the midfield. They were doing alright until the penalty. Never threatened the Brazilians though.
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    Hardly? Did you see all the opportunities Brasil had in the box? over and over and over again?
    Yes, saying 10 in the box is always an exaggeration but the point is one team was dominant and the other was poor in comparison.
     
  25. SiempreCrema

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    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Dominant doesn't mean "10 in the box though". Brazil were comfortable but Bolivia had a clear midfield line rather than in their own box.

    Bolivia got forward a few times, they just failed to do anything with their attacks.
     

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