Copa América: USA 2016 [R]

Discussion in 'Copa América Centenario 2016' started by Paul Calixte, May 1, 2014.

  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    We now have a rumor that the 2019 Copa América in Brazil will keep the 16-team format...

    If so, I imagine that 1) all the top seeds will be South American this time, and 2) they would either negotiate w/CONCACAF to host the Gold Cup another year or invite Asian teams again to complete the field, because the last thing we need is the final qualifiers from CONCACAF sending B-teams... :oops:
     
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  2. Cariverplate246

    Jun 12, 2014
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Prepair for another concacaf spanking if they send their b's


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  3. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    To be fair with Mexico, their B team played with more spirit.
     
  4. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Country:
    Chile
    A ver si esta vez por ser campeón Chile es considerado como cabeza de serie. :rolleyes:
     
  5. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Country:
    Japan
    Chile should be seeded as defending champs, along with the host. The other two should be the best placed on the rankings at the time. Right now, that would be Argentina and Colombia.
     
  6. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
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    United States
    I can hear the teeth grinding in Uruguay as we speak. :D
     
  7. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Columbia o como se escriba ni es súperior a Perú
     
  8. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Country:
    Ecuador
    Argentina always gets seeded, tho
     
  9. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Country:
    Japan
    In Centenario they were seeded by virtue of being the best ranked Conmebol team.

    If anything, they gave a more BS excuse for Brazil's seeding.
     
  10. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    We won't be seeded... we would need to win the World Cup or something... our market is too small, they would rather give it to Mexico.
     
  11. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    The US is one thing, since there aren't that many Chilean expats over there...but you guys can definitely sell out stadiums in Brazil (See: Chile-Australia :eek: and Chile-"Spana" :eek::eek::eek: in the last WC finals).
     
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  12. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    TV Market buddy. It's not good business for CONMEBOL and CONCACAF if Mexico go out early.
     
  13. svelten

    svelten Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    It's the Copa América, not Copa non-UEFA. It'd be a total farce to invite Asian teams... more farcical than the utter domination North American B-teams would suffer. I'd rather see Jamaica-B in an Americas tournament than a randomly invited South Korea over any day of the week. Plus AFC are shite against South American teams if played outside of Asian Soil, aren't they? (Just a hunch, no data to corroborate it). Wouldn't do much better than concacaf-B.
     
  14. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Country:
    Argentina
    I think I would rather play full strength Japan, South Korea or Australia than diminished Jamaicas or Honduras...

    Who cares if its a farce at this point...
     
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  15. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Although, with the Asian Cup scheduled for the same year and Asian NTs getting stonewalled by European clubs when asking for players for guest participations at the Copa América, you ain't gettin' full strength Japan, South Korea or Australia either (the very reason Japan and China turned down CONMEBOL for 2015).
     
  16. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Country:
    Argentina
    Then full strength Ivory Coast, Algeria and Ghanas...

    I don't know...
     
  17. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Same problem - AFCON scheduled for January 2019, plus an even stronger reaction from European clubs to the idea of releasing key players for a second tournament in 6 months.

    You know who you really need to invite?

    ENGLAND. :devilish::cautious:
     
  18. sidspaceman

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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
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    America de Cali
    Country:
    Colombia
  19. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    One side question that would have to be addressed ahead of 2019 is: if the six invites go to CONCACAF, what tournament would be used as qualifying? World Cup qualifying (i.e. invite all six teams that reach the Hexagonal) or the 2017 Gold Cup? I don't know if the Caribbean and Central American championships would be taken into account again, given that two of each will take place between now and 2019.
     
  21. svelten

    svelten Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Probably the Gold Cup to keep it somewhat relevant for the rest of the teams that don't have a shot at winning it.
     
  22. maxsanta

    maxsanta Member

    Dec 2, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Chile
    Concacaf sending b teams is fine: they'll have an excuse for the humiliating defeats and Conembol teams get a small boost for the Fifa rankings.
     
  23. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Country:
    Ecuador
    My Ecuador Playing against Asian teams would of been Awesome! But.. then it wouldn't be Copa ''AMERICA'' anymore
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Japan played in the 1999 Copa America and no one said it was not the Copa America anymore. :p
     
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