Pre-match: Copa América de 2019 - Brasil x Bolívia, 14 de Junho de 2019

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  1. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    #1 Century's Best, Jun 10, 2019
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    Location: Estádio Cícero Pompeu de Toledo (Estádio do Morumbi), São Paulo

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    Brazil roster:
    Goleiros
    Alisson (Roma-ITA)
    Cássio (Corinthians)
    Ederson (Manchester City-ING)

    Laterais
    Daniel Alves (PSG-FRA)
    Filipe Luís (Atlético de Madri-ESP)
    Alex Sandro (Juventus-ITA)
    Fágner (Corinthians)


    Zagueiros

    Miranda (Inter de Milão-ITA)
    Marquinhos (PSG-FRA)
    Thiago Silva (PSG-FRA)
    Éder Militão (Porto-POR)

    Meio-campistas
    Arthur (Grêmio)
    Allan (Napoli-ITA)
    Lucas Paquetá (Milan-ITA)
    Casemiro (Real Madrid-ESP)
    Fernandinho (Manchester City-ING)
    Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool-ING)
    Willian (Chelsea-ING)

    Atacantes
    Richarlison (PSG-FRA)
    Roberto Firmino (Liverpool-ING)
    Gabriel Jesus (Manchester City-ING)
    David Neres (Ajax-HOL)
    Everton (Grêmio)

    Brazil returns to official competitions almost 1 year to the day of its debut in the 2018 World Cup, but while last year, the Seleção visited Russian lands in its quest for a championship, this time the squad plays on home ground, as it did in 2013 and in 2014. If on June 17, 2018 the opponent was European (Switzerland), this time it is an old local opponent, and one against whom Brazil boasts overwhelmingly favorable numbers: Bolivia.

    In what will be Brazil’s 11th match in Tite’s post-World Cup stint, Brazil will attempt to keep its current 11-match unbeaten streak alive, and to achieve a four-game win streak.

    After a 2-0 win against Qatar and a 7-0 win against Honduras (but which saw Neymar injured and ultimately cut from the roster and replaced by Willian as well as Arthur replaced by Allan during the Honduras match, but with Arthur reportedly expected to recover), Brazil enters the Copa América confident and hungry for a win.

    Observers, ranging from everyday fans to professional writers, see Brazil’s fortunes in this tournament as pivotal to Tite’s future as Brazil manager. The defeat vs. Belgium in 2018 cost him considerable political capital and Tite was criticized for questionable roster selections last summer. While CBF re-signed him, Tite is well aware that now, even 11 straight matches without losing (with 25 goals scored and 2 allowed) will mean little if Brazil suffers an embarrassment on home ground. The backdrop of the 2013 Confederations Cup title victory stands next to the disappointment of the 2014 World Cup, and statistics for Copa América host teams have been anything but encouraging, for the most part, since 1989 (the very last time Brazil hosted the tournament and won it).

    Starting with 1989, only three times did the host team lift the trophy: Uruguay in 1995, Colombia in 2001 and Chile in 2015, and of these, only Colombia did not need penalty kicks to seal the win.

    Brazil, however, does have another interesting historical statistic that might favor it: on the four previous occasions it hosted the tournament (1919, 1922, 1949, and 1989), Brazil emerged as champion. A “Penta” would certainly look logical if statistics alone mattered.

    Bolivia does not come to Brazil as a contender. It failed to reach the 2018 World Cup (the sixth straight World Cup it didn’t qualify for) and its post-2018 World Cup qualification record has been unimpressive. In March 2018, it played Curaçao twice in four days (Curaçao is a Lesser Antilles island about 40 miles north of the Venezuelan coast and a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands), and Bolivia drew 1-1 and lost 1-0. Its best results since were a goalless draw against South Korea and a 0-3 win against Myanmar. Since March 2019, Bolivia drew Nicaragua 2-2, lost against South Korea and Japan 1-0 each time, and lost to France 0-2 in Nantes last week.

    The standout from Bolivia is Marcelo Moreno, a skilled striker who has played in Vitória, Cruzeiro (twice), Grêmio, and Flamengo. Moreno was the lone centerforward in a 4-4-1-1 formation which failed to score against the current World Cup champions at Stade de la Beaujoire.

    Even with Neymar out of the tournament, Brazil stormed Honduras yesterday, and five different offensive midfielders/forwards found the net. Neymar’s talent cannot be replaced, but it can be compensated for, given the excellent talent Brazilian forwards boast, and given the team chemistry they have developed as they have been played together for quite some time under Tite.

    Every opponent must be respected, but it is difficult to expect anything but a victory for Brazil.

    The following was Bolivia’s starting XI vs. France:
    Lampe; M. Bejarano, Jusino, Haquin, D. Bejarano; Saavedra, Galindo, Justiniano, Chumacero; Castro; Moreno.

    Brazil’s Copa América record vs. Bolivia is extremely lopsided: 39 goals scored, 11 allowed (with 7 of them in matches in Bolivia); 8 wins for Brazil, 2 wins for Bolivia, no draws.

    1/28/1945 Brazil 2, Bolivia 0
    1/16/1946 Brazil 3, Bolivia 0
    4/10/1949 Brazil 10, Bolivia 1
    3/1/1953 Brazil 8, Bolivia 1
    3/21/1959 Brazil 4, Bolivia 2
    3/31/1963 Bolivia 5, Brazil 4
    7/26/1979 Bolivia 2, Brazil 1
    8/16/1979 Brazil 2, Bolivia 0
    7/9/1991 Brazil 2, Bolivia 1
    6/29/1997 Bolivia 1, Brazil 3

    Of note is the 1997 match. Brazil beat Bolivia in Bolivia for the first time since 1985, and in La Paz. Having spent the entire tournament in Bolivia, Brazil’s players acclimated to the altitude enough to play normally. In 1985, Brazil won 2-0 in Ramón Tahuichi Aguilera stadium in Santa Cruz de la Sierra; this city’s altitude is 416 meters, and it was also here where Brazil last beat Bolivia in Bolivia: a 4-0 friendly win in 2013.

    At the end of the final, Brazil's manager Zagallo went up to a camera and screamed "vocês vão ter que me engolir!" in the biggest live TV desabafo in Brazilian sports history up to that moment. Zagallo had been under heavy criticism for his management of the team; the 1997 title helped him, but it all went down the drain 1 year later in Paris.
     
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  2. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Looks like GJ will be bench so I am guessing it's Richarlison and Firmino starting. Just wondering who gets the other nod up front.
     
  3. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Yes, I can't see Tite starting David Neres or Everton, although the latter would probably get some playing time were the match at Arena do Grêmio rather than at Morumbi.

    The Bolivian squad is going through a major rebuilding process. Several are from the Bolivian league.
     
  4. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The lineup will probably be:

    Alisson- D.Alves, Miranda, Marquinhos, F.Luis- Allan, Casemiro, Coutinho- Richarlison, Firmino, D.Neres

    Prediction 2-1 win for Brazil!!
     
  5. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If we beat Bolivia 2 x 1, I will be seriously worried.
     
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  6. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Taffarel never got used to that low density air.




     
  7. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Either Fernandinho or Alan will take Artur's place against Bolivia.
    For offensive reasons in breaking through the Bolivian retranca, the obvious choice is Alan.
     
  8. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The two friendlies we are 9 goals for, 0 against.
    Another 13 X 0 like the USA women's?
    Unfukinreal.
     
  9. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'd say max we score is 4.
     
  10. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I expect a win, but not by double digits. That said, the Thai women's national team has suffered an even bigger goleada: 15-0 against North Korea in 1998.

    I agree. More than 4 isn't farfetched, but probably not what Tite will set up the team for. If Bolivia comes in with a highly defensive deployment, the team will need to be patient to break through. As IVO ! said, Allan will likely start. He's less creative than Arthur, but he's superior to Arthur when it comes to aggressively attacking opposing teams' midfields to disrupt their passing and to wreck their playmaking. Allan will be useful to break down a Bolivian ferrolho, should they opt for that.
     
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  11. Century's Best

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    I thought Zagallo was elderly then...

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  12. Kaka10725

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    Jun 1, 2007
    The last few tournaments we have participated in have not been impressive starts regardless of the opposition.
    In fact, I don’t remember the last time Brazil started a tournament and scored more than 3 goals.
     
  13. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Of the 17 senior-level cup tournaments Brazil has won, 9 were goleadas if we define goleada by a margin of 3 goals or more:

    2002 World Cup: Brazil 2, Turkey 1
    1994 World Cup: Brazil 2, Russia 0
    1970 World Cup: Czechoslovakia 1, Brazil 4
    1962 World Cup: Brazil 2, Mexico 0
    1958 World Cup: Brazil 3, Austria 0

    2007 Copa América: Brazil 0, Mexico 2
    2004 Copa América: Brazil 1, Chile 0
    1999 Copa América: Brazil 7, Venezuela 0
    1997 Copa América: Brazil 5, Costa Rica 0
    1989 Copa América: Brazil 3, Venezuela 1
    1949 Copa América: Brazil 9, Ecuador 1
    1922 Copa América: Brazil 1, Chile 1
    1919 Copa América: Brazil 6, Chile 0

    2013 FIFA Confederations Cup: Brazil 3, Japan 0
    2009 FIFA Confederations Cup: Brazil 4, Egypt 3
    2005 FIFA Confederations Cup: Brazil 3, Greece 0
    1997 FIFA Confederations Cup: Saudi Arabia 0, Brazil 3

    We've had some disappointing opening match results in more recent tournaments, but that does not mean it'll be the same this time around, and we're arguably the best team in this competition. But I would be fine with a modest win - what I care about is the title.
     
  14. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'll never forget that match, the first loss we ever had in the qualifiers, and everybody was saying Brasil is done, not the same, lol
     
  15. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    bless him.
     
  16. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The one thing I remember very clearly about that Copa'97 Final is when Edmundo punched I believed Luis Cristado? in the face!! And then got quickly subbed off the pitch and got away with it!!:whistling::D And Zagalo's outburst in the end was priceless!!:x3::laugh:
     
  17. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I'll never deny Edmundo's status as a craque, but he's the Brazilian player I have liked the least for a very, very long time. In a way I'm glad he didn't lift the World Cup in 2002. Too bad guys like Alex (who tore it up with Palmeiras and Fenerbahçe) did not either.
     
  18. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    And he just said in an interview he was a calm guy back then ... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  19. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Good thing @Redshift isn't around since that is a sore spot with him. Or is he back from his hiatus for the Copa America? :D
     
  20. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Edmundo’s performance in the 1997 brasileiro is still the best ive seen from an individual player.
     
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  21. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Tite looks tired. And we haven't even played our first game yet.
     
  22. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    So Arthur hasn't been cut but definitely won't play tomorrow. Tite didn't say who's taking his spot. Rumors point to Fernan ... ugh .... can't even finish the name.

    Ederson injured himself in training and won't be playing tomorrow.
     
  23. Century's Best

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    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    I hope it's Allan. And Brazil will play in white. What is this, 1922?
     
  24. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #24 omajac, Jun 13, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2019
    That's the one thing that I didn't understand with Scolari, cause when Emerson got injured, he could've called up Alex(who served him very well at Palmeiras) but called up Ricardinho of Corinthians instead!!:unsure: I know it doesn't matter now, but it still puzzles me!!:x3:
     
  25. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    You mean 1919!!:D
     

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