CONMEBOL Club Ranking Top10 by IFCR

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  1. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Some explanations here : http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/asian-top10-clubs-by-ifcr.2016887/#post-31819330 (Copa Libertadores is rathen x3 times than AFC CL)

    The Conmebol Ranking is the most excitement confederation by top10. Universidad de Chile continue to be first team here, but is in battle with many clubs for this place.... every foul in Copa Libertadores can change the leader.

    Atletico Mineiro, Atletico Nacional and Corinthians wait for errors by Chilian leader to take their place. All clubs from top10 which play in Copa Libertadores have chance to finish first at the end of 2015, if they will win the trophy.

    1 Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1302.46
    2 Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1292.30
    3 Atletico Nacional Meddellin 1279.49
    4 SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1273.80
    5 Velez Salsfield 1248.60
    6 CA Libertad Asuncion 1160.39
    7 Emelec 1139.91
    8 CA Boca Juniors Buenos Aires 1106.50
    9 FC Santos (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1093.30
    10 Cruzeiro Esporte Clube (Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais) 1042.20

    entire ranking here => http://footballsize.com/conmebol-ranking/
     
  2. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Unless some miracle happens, we will lose it in this edition.
     
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  3. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    You must beat The Strongest in Copa Libertadores this week, to keep first place. If not, on 19 March you can lose first position if Atletico Mineiro will beat Santa Fe
     
  4. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    The thing is, to our favor, the even when we didnt pass to second round, we ended up with 10 points. As weird as that is it happened to us twice in a row.
     
  5. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Yah, but is very hard now because Emelec have 6 points from 6 possible.... and if we think that Internacional will qualify anyway, then, you must finish before Emelec :) You must beat them in second match, in Ecuador to qualify. I see your last match in group is 22 April, even in Ecuador, against Emelec :D

    To be honest, I don't know how U de Chile finished first team in Conmebol Ranking :)) Probably because your team played very well in Chilian League and earn many points from there .... because in continental competitions, only Copa Sudamericana 2011 was a succesfull for you
     
  6. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Like I said before, we have a very good win to loss ratio. When we dont make it to second round, we still get 10 points (few losses). We also got far on Libertadores a couple of times. Unlike other teams that do great 1 year and nothing next year, we are more or less consistent. Out of the years you mentioned, in each round, we have more victories than losses, that is why we are first.

    Btw, I dont see Emelec as outstanding. Barely beat us at home but we are worse place we can possibly be, a slight improvement and we can even win in Ecuador.
     
  7. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Still first.
     
  8. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Yep, still first :D

    1. Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1320.46
    2. Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1292.30
    3. SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1291.80
    4. Atletico Nacional Meddellin 1285.49
    5. Velez Salsfield 1248.60

    but, Corinthians play very well and they have chances to qualify in next round. I don't know what happening with Atletico Mineiro. Atletico Meddellin have a sensitive group (with Libertad and Estudiantes), so, I can't do any predict about it. Velez play just Primera Division, so no chances until the end.

    9. FC Sahtior Donetk 1392.51
    10. Juventus Torino FC 1385.75
    11. Paris Saint Germain 1372.70
    12. Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1320.46

    13. Manchester United FC 1319.15

    Shakhtar, Juve and PSG play in Round of 16 UEFA Champions League. But 2/3 (if not all) can leave the competition now. With a qualification in next round of Copa Libertadores, you can reach top10 :D

    You can reach top10 and without qualification, if you will obtain 3 victories in last 3 matches ( will give you 3 x 9 x 2 pts = 54 total pts), BUT PSG must lose their last match in UCL in London, against Chelsea (and i'm sure they will do that ;) So, PSG will remain with 1372.70 pts, and you will made 1374.46 pts. If you obtain 3/3 now, this will result your qualification (with 12 points in group you are 100% qualify, because no team have no 0 points now). For qualification will receive 28 x 2 = 56 total points, So, U de Chile can reach 1430.46 pts at the end of Copa Libertadores groups stage (ahead all these european clubs)
     
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  9. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
  10. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    new leader for CONMEBOL :) Which team you think is the best here? The ranking will be published in 5 April !! Stay close.
     
  11. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    san lorenzo - sao pablo y boca are to be in the top 10 at least. nacional de medellin is a joke ranked so high
     
  12. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Boca is in top10 :p San Lorenzo or Sao Paulo, definitelly one of both will be in top10. I hope both :D Sao Paulo can win Paulista League and can earn some important points. For Santos FC, this is vital, to remain in top10.

    Nacional Meddellin is so high due of their results in Colombia (7 trophies in last 5 years) and last edition of Copa Libertadores (2014), when they reached quarterfinals and Copa Sudamericana (2014) when reached the final.

    So, after San Lorenzo (Copa Libertadores Champion) and River Plate (Copa Sudamericana Champion), Atletico Nacional made the best performance for a South American team, with 2 high results in both continental competitions. With 2014's performance, Atletico Nacional will be alive in the top of CONMEBOL for a time.
     
  13. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    SC CORINTHIANS PAULISTA
    they are new leader for CONMEBOL after a perfect start in Copa Libertadores (4 victories from 4 matches). With big chances to qualify for Round of 16 and win Paulista league, they can increase the distance ahead 2nd place.

    April 5, 2015 ranking :
    1 SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1327.80
    2 Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1320.46
    3 Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1310.30
    4 Club Atletico Nacional Meddellin 1303.49
    5 Velez Salsfield 1248.60
    6 CA Libertad Asuncion 1196.39
    7 Emelec 1145.91
    8 CA Boca Juniors Buenos Aires 1142.50
    9 FC Santos (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1093.30
    10 Cruzeiro Esporte Clube (Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais) 1066.20
    Top500 IFCR for April : http://footballsize.com/ifcr-top500-april-5-2015/
     
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  14. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Corinthians dropped from first place !! Which team you think is first now? New ranking will be published on May !!
     
  15. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Mineiro? or Universidad de Chile goes back to first
     
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  16. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Yep, Mineiro.

    Will be a internal battle between Corinthians and Atletico Mineiro for first place. Both are qualified for final phase of statal leagues (Paulista title = 50 pts x2 / Mineiro title = 41 pts x2)

    If Corinthians is 99% qualified for Copa Libertadores knock-out phase, Atletico Mineiro have 50 - 60% chances to qualify (remaining matches : away with Atlas and home with Colo Colo)
     
  17. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    WORLD CLUB RANKING FOR MAY 1, 2015 :

    Awesome battle for first place in Conmebol !! The leader is changed again !!

    See entire ranking for Conmbol here => http://footballsize.com/conmebol-ranking/

    1 Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1402.30 Brazil
    2 Club Atletico Nacional Meddellin 1395.49 Colombia
    3 SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1389.80 Brazil
    4 Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1320.46 Chile
    5 CA Velez Salsfield (Liniers, Buenos Aires) 1248.60 Argentina
    6 CA Boca Juniors (Buenos Aires) 1234.50 Argentina
    7 Emelec 1219.91 Ecuador
    8 CA Libertad Asuncion 1202.39 Paraguay
    9 Cruzeiro Esporte Clube (Bello Horizonte, Minas Gerais) 1158.20 Brazil
    10 FC Sao Paulo (Paulista) 1118.70 Brazil

    Atletico Mineiro remain in battle for Mineiro 2015, so have a little advantage against other teams. Atletico Nacional and Corinthians, both qualified in Copa Libertadores will try to catch them.
     
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  18. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    new movements after State Leagues finished in Brazil. Atletico Mineiro increased their distance ahead 2nd place. Corinthians 2nd after Paulista semifinal. Santos is back in top10

    1. Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1484.30
    2. SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1397.80
    ...
    9. FC Santos (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1193.30
     
  19. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    It''s incredible how all top4 clubs in CONMEBOL were excluded from Copa Libertadores. This is what I like, and not as in UEFA, where Real, Barca and Bayern dominate the top3. Conmebol is the most equilibrate confederation from the world.

    Now, Emelec is the top football club qualified for Copa Libertadores quarterfinals ... awesome.

    10 Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1490.30 - lost in round of 16
    13 Club Atletico Nacional Meddellin 1413.49 - lost in round of 16
    14 SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1397.80 - lost in round of 16
    16 Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1367.26 - lost in groups stage
    18 Emelec 1313.91 vs UANL Tigres in quarterfinals
    20 Cruzeiro Esporte Clube (Bello Horizonte, Minas Gerais) 1252.20 vs Boca/River in quarterfinals
    21 CA Velez Salsfield (Liniers, Buenos Aires) 1248.60 - not played
    22 CA Boca Juniors (Buenos Aires) 1234.50 if pass River, will join Cruzeiro in quarterfinals
    24 CA Libertad Asuncion 1202.39 - lost in groups stage
    25 FC Santos (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1193.30 - not played
    28 FC Sao Paulo (Paulista) 1144.70 - lost in round of 16
    29 CD Independiente Santa Fe (Bogota) 1110.80 vs Internacional in quarterfinals
    30 Club Internacional Porto Alegre (Gaucho, Rio Grande do Sul) 1097.75 vs Santa Fe in quarterfinals
    32 CA San Lorenzo de Almagro (Buenos Aires) 1050.65 - lost in groups stage
    41 PFC Cerro Porteno Asuncion 951.13 - lost in preliminary round
    42 CA River Plate (Buenos Aires) 949.40 if pass Boca, will join Cruzeiro in quarterfinals
    44 CA Lanus (Greater Buenos Aires) 942.10 - not played
    53 Fluminense Rio de Janeiro (Carioca) 884.65 - not played
    56 CA Penarol Montevideo 854.66 - not played
    58 Club Nacional de Py (Asuncion) 853.11 - not played

    Guarani (95) and Racing (116) are not in top20 CONMEBOL clubs. They will play against in quarterfinals, with big chances for the qualified team in semifinals to reach top100 world clubs
     
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  20. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    CONMEBOL Top10 Clubs for June :

    1 Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1490.30
    2
    Club Atletico Nacional Meddellin 1474.69
    3
    SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1397.80
    4
    Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1367.26
    5
    Emelec 1331.91
    6
    CA Libertad Asuncion 1282.79
    7
    Cruzeiro Esporte Clube (Bello Horizonte, Minas Gerais) 1270.20
    8
    CA Velez Salsfield (Liniers, Buenos Aires) 1248.60
    9
    CA Boca Juniors (Buenos Aires) 1234.50
    10
    Club Internacional Porto Alegre (Gaucho, Rio Grande do Sul) 1213.75 (qualified for Copa Libertadores semifinals)
    ...
    13 River Plate (Buenos Aires) 1177.40 (qualified for Copa Libertadores semifinals)
    ...
    19 Club Guarani Asuncion 889.16 (qualified for Copa Libertadores semifinals)

    With 4 victories in Copa Libertadores (and title winner), Internacional can do 1601pts (and will be new leader of CONMEBOL). River Plate can do 1565pts (and also, can be first). Guarani is too low to be first, but with 4wins, they can be 7th with 1275pts.

    entire ranking => http://footballsize.com/conmebol-ranking/
     
  21. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    CONMEBOL Top10 ranking for August 1, 2015 (before Copa Libertadores final - second leg)

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    River Plate, from 13rd (from last update) to 1st (after Copa Libertadores final). They earned 98pts*2 for CopaLib trophy. But, this will be showed in the next update.

    entire ranking : => http://footballsize.com/conmebol-ranking/

    In August we have Copa Sudamericana !! River Plate can be first eam which won both major continental competitions from the world : Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana (vfor CONMEBOL version, as UEFA Champions League & UEFA Europa League fr UEFA version .... anyway this is not possible in UEFA because both competitions are played in same time and have other system for qualifications from national leagues)

    Emelec, River Plate, Libertad from top10 will play in Copa Sudamericana and can earn more points for the ranking. More as, Argentina and Brazil will earn a total of 100% points at the end of the leagues (use European system), while the rest of CONMEBOL use Apertura-Clausura system with 50-50 points distribution. So, if the rest of the leagues have already added an half of the league Apertura 2015 (from season 2015) or Clausura 2015 (from season 2014/15), Brasil Serie A and Argentina Premier League will earn more points at the end, and the clubs can grow up better than other clubs.
     
  22. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Conmebol Top10 clubs for September 1, 2015 :

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    It's River Plate time ;)
    Will be a fresh month for Conmebol, where only 3 clubs of top10 are qualified for Copa Sudamericana, and where, probably, many dates will be busy for national teams.

    entire ranking => http://footballsize.com/conmebol-ranking/

    Velez Sarsfield is only team from top10 without points in 2015, but will earn some when Primera Division will be finished.
     
  23. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    #23 AlleXyS, Sep 18, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2015
    After all matches in Copa Sudamericana Second stage :

    1. CA River Plate (Buenos Aires) 1581.40
    2. Club Atletico Mineiro (Bello Horizonte , Minas Gerais) 1490.30
    3. Club Atletico Nacional Meddellin 1476.49
    4. Club Emelec 1464.91
    5. SC Corinthians Paulista (Paulista, Sao Paulo) 1397.80
    6. Universidad de Chile (Santiago de Chile) 1367.26
    7. CA Libertad Asuncion 1341.39
    8. Cruzeiro Esporte Clube (Bello Horizonte, Minas Gerais) 1270.20
    9. CA Velez Salsfield (Liniers, Buenos Aires) 1248.60
    10. CA Boca Juniors (Buenos Aires) 1234.50
    11. CD Independiente Santa Fe (Bogota) 1233.60

    bold clubs are qualified for Round of 16. 7,5pts for win and 2.5pts for draw in Round of 16. Teams wich will qualify for Quarterfinals will receive 19 bonus points.

    Country coefficients for 2017 (pts from 15 - 11)

    1. Brazil 6441.5 686 627 1197 1452.5 992.5
    2. Argentina 5541.9 908 1071.5 836.5 815 632
    3. Paraguay 2476.5 333 360 459 303.5 449.5
    4. Colombia 2132.7 290.5 306 474.5 240 329.5
    5. Chile 1920.1 127.5 175 199.5 485 490
    6. Ecuador 1415.7 226 110.5 178.5 301.5 272.5
    7. Uruguay 1346.8 157.5 262 145.5 162 309
    8. Bolivia 1006.2 160.5 284 84 142 103.5
    9. Peru 696.8 92 73 171.5 69.5 130
    10. Venezuela 491.4 95 66 76.5 63.5 77

    the total of points is 1,3 * (15+14+13+12+11)
    where 1,3 is coefficient of confederation.

    For 2017, probably Brazil and Argentina league will have maximum of points for their champions (100) along Spain !!
     
  24. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Conmebol Top10 Clubs for 2 October 2015 :

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    entire ranking => http://footballsize.com/conmebol-ranking/

    Helped by their qualification in quarterfinals of Copa Sudamericana, Independiente Santa Fe is in top10. Boca Juniors, which was 10th, now is 11st in the ranking.

    Emelec is 3rd, ahead Atletico Nacional because they earned some points from Copa Sudamericana.

    River Plate collect some points and are close to be first Conmebol team in top10. If we think that Primera Division is not finished, we are sure that River will be in top10 at the end of 2015. And much more, River have only 3 seasons played at good standards (2015, 2014, 2013) ... with 2012 in Second League and 2011 a bad season.

    Definitelly for the next year, River will remain in top10 for some time.... they have in 3/5 seasons more points than other teams in 5/5.

    This month, with a qualification in semifinals, River can join top10 World Clubs.
     

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