Confirmed and Official - Welcome to Old Trafford José Mourinho

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  1. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

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    He still does Asher is wrong. Castles is still intact Mous mouthpiece
     
  2. Ashur

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    Not so much addressing this issue in particular in regards to Balague, but really his general body of work in recent years and how his reputation as an "insider" is exaggerated at this point.

    It's possible but the point is that it would appear to contradict what we have seen and know as of late, about Castles no longer being Jose's mouthpiece in the media. There have been more than examples supporting that fact.
    For all we know, Castles may have other sources inside the club. But as I've clearly mentioned previously, the timing of Jose's recent comments about his United future are probably not coincidental and it appears that he's putting this on to pressure Woodward for a new deal...
     
  3. gatekeeper2

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    I've got no problem with leverage plays by either managers or, within reason of course. Who knows what Mourinho "deserves" in his contract but if in his mind this is the time to discuss his contract, fine. The Glazers and Woody have a lot to think about in terms of what Mourinho brings to the club. We have money to spend and the right manager is a critical part of that investment. How many other human beings on the planet are qualified to properly manage Manchester United? 3, maybe 4?

    I've always assumed Jose will be with us for 3 seasons minimum, 5 maximum. I wouldn't be terribly concerned if he left after the third or fourth season, provided he brought in an EPL and CL trophy before his departure. The former is doable this season and with one or two top quality additions the latter is doable next season.
     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

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    The trouble with this stuff, as has been pointed out a million times, is that Manager places story with reporter, story runs up, manager then denies it.

    e.g the time SAF leaked to the press about Rooney's off radar drinking, then denied it was him that told the media.

    So then the journalist gets accused of making up story.

    But this is a very typical media transaction.
     
  5. Ashur

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  6. Sofabloke

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    Everywhere reporting the Mou contract as three years, which it is - but there is an option in there until 2020. Ed seems to like putting the extra year in all contracts these days so he isn't pressured into making early decisions (assuming it an option in the clubs hands as usual).

    I don't honestly believe the Mou comment about not staying his whole career could come as a shock to anyone. Especially as Mou has still not bought a property in the north west and stays in a hotel returning to his home in London when he gets days off.

    With the inflation around players wages it would not exactly come as a shock if Mendes/Mourinho were angling for a better / longer deal.
     
  7. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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    Anyone else thinking that he should win a title for us before pushing for a pay hike?
     
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  8. Ashur

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    #2083 Ashur, Oct 16, 2017
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    He and Mendes would definitely be in a much better bargaining position, if Jose can win the title (or even just come pretty close).
    That's why, if those reports and leaks are true, it's kind of frustrating to see/hear from an outsiders' point of view: the timing is all wrong for that kind of public bickering and "threats" on Jose's part.
     
  9. SyedZada

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    Pay cut for style of football then.
     
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  10. JC7rox

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    Angling for a pay hike? The club has not done anything yet. Sure, winning EL and getting back into CL is nice, but that had to be of the most minimum expectations. United have not even finished in the top 3, let alone win the league. Do something big and then your earn the hike, otherwise take a hike.
     
  11. Karloski

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    The 'Paris' comments are disrespectful to our club. Regardless of any beef he has with the board...he should show more respect to the fans who have backed him.
     
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  12. SyedZada

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    Or move on.
     
  13. Ashur

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    It's just interesting (in not a good way obviously) because it wasn't that long ago that he clearly dismissed PSG as a potential destination, because the league was not competitive. Obviously, the perception of the club has changed and is much more flashier and high profile (even if the competitivity of Ligue Un hasn't really changed).
    I really don't think he wants to leave anytime soon, but this is merely doing what he does. There's no reason for him to create any kind of tension or having some kind of strop: Woodward has backed him on the transfer market (and will probably continue doing so), he's on the right track bringing United back to prominence. Everything looks pretty good for him ATM all things considered and this could just all have a negative impact on the season.
    For all good qualities as a football manager, this "drama queen"/diva side of his persona is just very annoying and let's hope he keeps it in check. He'll be taken care of and extremely well if he delivers (or as previously mentioned, just comes close to it). Man up and keep doing your job.
     
  14. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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  15. sdotsom

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    Get us a true trophy before angling for this. I'm naive regarding managerial contracts but 15 mill a year seems more than just for him. A mickey mouse treble doesn't earn you an immediate pay raise. A strong push this year, ie QFs of CL and no lower than 3rd seems like a basic expectation before asking for more bread.
     
  16. Ashur

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    He's the second highest paid football manager behind Pep. He really has nothing to complain about. He delivers by the end of the season and his leverage will be ridiculous.
    Him making a new contract and especially more money an issue at this time of year, is incredibly short sighted, unnecessary and is just not a good look, with the veil threat of PSG on top of it, the one club ironically who could easily make him the highest paid manager in the game.
     
  17. sdotsom

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    This just seems like the early signs of another Morongo 3rd year breakdown.
     
  18. Karloski

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    That is just awful. No win in 10. Only scored in 2 of the 10 games.

    Maybe he could defend the tactics if he had 10 draws. But all we see there is his tactic is a 50\50 between draw or loss.

    If he'd gone for it in those 10 games and got a dismal 2 wins and 8 defeats.....he still would have done better.
     
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  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    Agreed - what does the club actually get for its 15m a year?
     
  20. United 16

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    Didn't he won the league in 2015?
     
  21. sdotsom

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    I will give him 2 things. Qualifying last year for CL essentially paid his salary cause of the adidas clause. And the players do seem to have more self belief. This year's results so far seem to imply a drop in draws and more wins against crap sides.

    But we are not tactically brilliant are we? Even though it was injury enforced last game, we will still likely park a bus in big games.

    I'm not happy with the current salary now that I know it's second in the world, and a raise seems idiotic. This smacks either of a power play against Woodward, which I personally think Jose loses, or Mendes just padding his contract with an extension so the buyout next year is for more than one year.
     
  22. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

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    Let's not forget he spent good money to get these results. It is not like he made Smalling a Sergio Ramos.

    From a player development side the only player I see that excelled under him is Valencia, the rest were really up and down at best. I would put Jones but he hasn't played half a season yet.
     
  23. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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    Let's not forget his biggest 2 achievements, selling Rooney and made fellaini useful. Same also goes for Rojo.
     
  24. Ashur

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  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    The reality is leaving Utd will be a step down for him

    Woody would be stupid to give him a new contract right now.
     

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